Blackpill No Autonomy

[Icarus]

You guys need to understand that not everything is in your control. In fact none of it is. You like what you like because you were predestined to be that way.

No one has a choice in anything.

If we did then we could decide when we feel hungry, what foods we like, what women we find attractive, what makes us ourselves.

We just play a character based on traits that were already chosen for us.

That is the real blackpill. We have no choice. No autonomy. We run on a script.

This is our lives, but it's not really ours

 

[Grodd]

It was over from the start in fact it never even began.

 

[VλREN]

I think everyone here knows this

 

[zd60]

It was over from the start in fact it never even began.

 

[Icarus]

It was over from the start in fact it never even began.

Truthfully so

 

[zd60]

Everything is predestined

 

[Icarus]

I think everyone here knows this

Then why do you judge me for being the character I am forced into?

 

[VλREN]

Then why do you judge me for being the character I am forced into?

Am not

 

[Icarus]

Everything is predestined

Down to the very detail of our being. It is no coincidence that we were born in this exact time, in this exact place.

That is why there is a god who created all of this.

None of it is random. All of it serves a purpose. Though none of it is for our benefit.

 

[Shark]

The game was rigged from the start

 

[zd60]

Down to the very detail of our being. It is no coincidence that we were born in this exact time, in this exact place.

That is why there is a god who created all of this.

None of it is random. All of it serves a purpose. Though none of it is for our benefit.

I agree, I just don't know if its a god or something whatever it is, its one cruel sadistic creature.

 

[Icarus]

Am not

Don't lie brocel. I love you guys regardless.

It's just a flaw we all have. Just another part of our script.

We all want to project our views on the world. Really everything is just projection.

Everyone's life is so different.

I just speak from my own.

 

[Icarus]

The game was rigged from the start

 

[Icarus]

I agree, I just don't know if its a god or something whatever it is, its one cruel sadistic creature.

It's truly evil. I don't even know if we can fight it. It may just all be hopeless in the end.

I can't lie. I am scared brocel. I hate having this body that feels all of this pain.

I just want it to end. I'm so tired of this.

If we had no control in being forced into these bodies, then whatever made this can easily throw us in something far worse, and that makes me unable to sleep. Unable to relax or rest.

I've never felt so self aware, and yet powerless.

 

[MRHK_57]

 

[Icarus]

Kek thank you for lightening the mood brocel

 

[zd60]

It's truly evil. I don't even know if we can fight it. It may just all be hopeless in the end.

I can't lie. I am scared brocel. I hate having this body that feels all of this pain.

I just want it to end. I'm so tired of this.

If we had no control in being forced into these bodies, then whatever made this can easily throw us in something far worse, and that makes me unable to sleep. Unable to relax or rest.

I've never felt so self aware, and yet powerless.

I feel the exact same at times, most times pretty much everything is hopeless. if there is something that actually created us then there is no hope that we are more powerful than it.

everyday i'm already unable to relax, rest or eat or sleep properly, I hope whatever entity that is torturing me now gives me some mercy upon death​

 

[Icarus]

I don't want to be doom and gloom, but I see no hope in this world. Truly I am lost and defeated. My whole world has been shattered.

 

[Icarus]

I feel the exact same at times, most times pretty much everything is hopeless. if there is something that actually created us then there is no hope that we are more powerful than it.​

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everyday i'm already unable to relax, rest or eat or sleep properly, I hope whatever entity that is torturing me now gives me some mercy upon death​

Our only solace is in thinking as you exactly described. We can only hope that this being didn't create us, and that we come from only ourselves.

It makes sense in a way because how can a being such as this create us entirely if we are so opposite in our views?

So separate from this world.

I just don't know man. I really wish I knew.

 

[Icarus]

Our only solace is in thinking as you exactly described. We can only hope that this being didn't create us, and that we come from only ourselves.

It makes sense in a way because how can a being such as this create us entirely if we are so opposite in our views?

So separate from this world.

I just don't know man. I really wish I knew.

My dad compared him and my mom having me to that of not knowing who and what I would turn into. Randomly generated. Happenstance.

If God functions in that same way then he is not all powerful because he cannot predict it's own creation.

So either God is all powerful and evil, or he is not but is limited by what he can create.

Either way he is doing nothing to stop this, so I can only imagine that it is the former.

 

[zd60]

Our only solace is in thinking as you exactly described. We can only hope that this being didn't create us, and that we come from only ourselves.

It makes sense in a way because how can a being such as this create us entirely if we are so opposite in our views?

So separate from this world.

I just don't know man. I really wish I knew.

If something created us than we are probably a reflection of that entity in someway, I have no answers i've sat alone in my room for years thinking about the same questions always circling back to dead ends i've just learned that asking questions is a futile effort that falls on to deaths ears

 

[Teru Mikami]

Yes!

 

[Icarus]

If something created us than we are probably a reflection of that entity in someway, I have no answers i've sat alone in my room for years thinking about the same questions always circling back to dead ends i've just learned that asking questions is a futile effort that falls on to deaths ears

There has to be an answer somewhere though. I don't want to have to wait for death in order to find out.

I am just limited. I truly believe if I didn't have this body I would be so much more knowledgeable and quite possibly more powerful.

But it is all just theoretical, and it drives me insane.

 

[zd60]

There has to be an answer somewhere though. I don't want to have to wait for death in order to find out.

I am just limited. I truly believe if I didn't have this body I would be so much more knowledgeable and quite possibly more powerful.

But it is all just theoretical, and it drives me insane.

I believe we are all vastly more powerful once we shed this organic body, why we are in the body is beyond my comprhension, I don't have the intelligence or energy to search for answers anymore.

everything is so tiring the pain the misery its never ends its so overwhelming I can't think about anything else

 

[Icarus]

Yes!

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this friend. Try not to get discouraged, I am just writing out my thoughts.

 

[Icarus]

I believe we are all vastly more powerful once we shed this organic body, why we are in the body is beyond my comprhension, I don't have the intelligence or energy to search for answers anymore.

everything is so tiring the pain the misery its never ends its so overwhelming I can't think about anything else

Very understandable brocel. We can't let it win though. If we are put in these impossible circumstances then we have the strength to stand against it. Just living in this material realm is proof of our strength of survival.

It's a battle of how much pain we can endure.

We have all of this time to think on it. If we all combine our own theories we have a much better chance of formulating a hypothesis.

But we have to work together.

 

[Icarus]

Very understandable brocel. We can't let it win though. If we are put in these impossible circumstances then we have the strength to stand against it. Just living in this material realm is proof of our strength of survival.

It's a battle of how much pain we can endure.

We have all of this time to think on it. If we all combine our own theories we have a much better chance of formulating a hypothesis.

But we have to work together.

And we can't lose hope.

It may be our only way out of here.

 

[Teru Mikami]

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this friend. Try not to get discouraged, I am just writing out my thoughts.

You have some interesting thoughts, I put your post in my signature Some will say it's water, I think the profundity of what you said lends itself to it being kind of obvious to anyone who is truly blackpilled, but you put it in a very eloquent way

 

[zd60]

Very understandable brocel. We can't let it win though. If we are put in these impossible circumstances then we have the strength to stand against it. Just living in this material realm is proof of our strength of survival.

It's a battle of how much pain we can endure.

We have all of this time to think on it. If we all combine our own theories we have a much better chance of formulating a hypothesis.

But we have to work together.

I admire you're optimistic view. what you call strength I may call fear as we are all somewhat fearful of whats after this organic life idk, I wish I had answers to all the questions I could ever ask

 

[zd60]

And we can't lose hope.

It may be our only way out of here.

i'm not sure I've had hope, or even understand what it is. its all torture man

 

[Icarus]

You have some interesting thoughts, I put your post in my signature Some will say it's water, I think the profundity of what you said lends itself to it being kind of obvious to anyone who is truly blackpilled, but you put it in a very eloquent way

Thank you

 

[Icarus]

I admire you're optimistic view. what you call strength I may call fear as we are all somewhat fearful of whats after this organic life idk, I wish I had answers to all the questions I could ever ask

i'm not sure I've had hope, or even understand what it is. its all torture man

You always say what I wish I could.

Don't lose hope man, I am right by your side.

Whether we parish, then we parish together. As brothers.

And I mean all of us here on this forum in general.

I am down, and really down. Don't give up just yet.

 

[Teru Mikami]

It's truly evil. I don't even know if we can fight it. It may just all be hopeless in the end.

I can't lie. I am scared brocel. I hate having this body that feels all of this pain.

I just want it to end. I'm so tired of this.

If we had no control in being forced into these bodies, then whatever made this can easily throw us in something far worse, and that makes me unable to sleep. Unable to relax or rest.

I've never felt so self aware, and yet powerless.

If something created us than we are probably a reflection of that entity in someway, I have no answers i've sat alone in my room for years thinking about the same questions always circling back to dead ends i've just learned that asking questions is a futile effort that falls on to deaths ears

If we were made in the image of whatever created us, it stands to reason that we are also probably intrinsically evil. If there is a "rebellion" against it, if we "broke our shackles", we would still be bound by the nature that it programmed us with, we would probably create worse, create more suffering for ourselves and others. I think it's best if the status quo persists, future generations will continue to go through this pain and we'll hopefully be at peace once we die. That's just the way of the world

I fantasize about nuclear war that ends humanity very often, we really shouldn't exist and neither should whatever created us

 

[Icarus]

If we were made in the image of whatever created us, it stands to reason that we are also probably intrinsically evil. If there is a "rebellion" against it, if we "broke our shackles", we would still be bound by the nature that it programmed us with, we would probably create worse, create more suffering for ourselves and others. I think it's best if the status quo persists, future generations will continue to go through this pain and we'll hopefully be at peace once we die. That's just the way of the world

I fantasize about nuclear war that ends humanity very often, we really shouldn't exist and neither should whatever created us

But the possibility of us being something different and not from this creator creates the smallest amount of hope, and I need something to keep me going.

We have to take the chance regardless because it's the only option we have.

And if we end up somewhere worse then we truly have no choice in it regardless because it's already been predetermined.

 

[zd60]

You always say what I wish I could.

Don't lose hope man, I am right by your side.

Whether we parish, then we parish together. As brothers.

And I mean all of us here on this forum in general.

I am down, and really down. Don't give up just yet.

i'm trying not to lose all hope but its very hard. its wonderful to know others are out like who think the same when we parish it will be toghther whenever that day comes hopefully its peaceful

 

[zd60]

If we were made in the image of whatever created us, it stands to reason that we are also probably intrinsically evil. If there is a "rebellion" against it, if we "broke our shackles", we would still be bound by the nature that it programmed us with, we would probably create worse, create more suffering for ourselves and others. I think it's best if the status quo persists, future generations will continue to go through this pain and we'll hopefully be at peace once we die. That's just the way of the world

I fantasize about nuclear war that ends humanity very often, we really shouldn't exist and neither should whatever created us

I believe we as "humans" or creatures are still intrinsically equally regardless of our form we take

 

[Icarus]

i'm trying not to lose all hope but its very hard. its wonderful to know others are out like who think the same when we parish it will be toghther whenever that day comes hopefully its peaceful

 

[Icarus]

I'm gonna try and get some sleep if I can. I need to sober up a bit lol. I hope this thread stays active though. I really want to hear what everyone thinks.

Goodnight brocels

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

What do you think of compatibilism?

 

[Poindexter]

I'm gonna try and get some sleep if I can. I need to sober up a bit lol. I hope this thread stays active though. I really want to hear what everyone thinks.

Goodnight brocels

Have a good sleep man

 

[Teru Mikami]

I'm gonna try and get some sleep if I can. I need to sober up a bit lol. I hope this thread stays active though. I really want to hear what everyone thinks.

Goodnight brocels

Goodnight man

 

[Icarus]

What do you think of compatibilism?

I'll check back in the morning

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

I'll check back in the morning

OK

 

[Icarus]

Have a good sleep man

Goodnight man

Goodnight frens

 

[Icarus]

What do you think of compatibilism?

Actually I just looked it up out of curiosity and honestly I don't believe in it. Simply because our own desires are predetermined in some shape or form.

I'd like to believe in some way our actions create a ripple effect that can have different outcomes in general, but these outcomes are limited by our environment and circumstance.

Thank you for bringing this up though because it is very interesting.

 

[Icarus]

Actually I just looked it up out of curiosity and honestly I don't believe in it. Simply because our own desires are predetermined in some shape or form.

I'd like to believe in some way our actions create a ripple effect that can have different outcomes in general, but these outcomes are limited by our environment and circumstance.

Thank you for bringing this up though because it is very interesting.

I didn't want to leave you hanging. You are a good friend, and I always enjoy talking to you.

 

[Icarus]

Now I sleep

 

[Midnight Animal]

I'm just watching a boring movie.

 

[Shark]

Sometimes, I want to punch God in the facd

 

[CosmicInjustice]

Everything is physical.