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Neijuan: omnipresent hyper-competitiveness. (A must read post)

do you have the vid archived perchance?
Unfortunately no.

I really need to start archiving things more often. It's depressing thinking about all of the interesting or hilarious videos I've seen over the years that are gone either because the uploader deleted it, youtube took it down, the channel was deleted, or the channel got banned by youtube.
 
Unfortunately no.

I really need to start archiving things more often. It's depressing thinking about all of the interesting or hilarious videos I've seen over the years that are gone either because the uploader deleted it, youtube took it down, the channel was deleted, or the channel got banned by youtube.
Same. I have a bad habit of not archiving things. Brutal.
 
Recently I discovered a Chinese word that is laser accurate in it's description of a phenomenon/issue I've observed for a long time, that only seems to be getting worse and worse. "内卷" or "neijuan". Ignore the literal translation of the word, I won't bore you with the etymology of the word, but when Chinese use it these days, they're talking about the perpetual state of hyper-competitiveness in every facet of life, including basic necessities. Increased effort, increased competition, but the rewards are no better. Imagine a race where everyone is running faster and faster, yet the finish line isn't getting any closer. People are becoming turbo tryhards not even to get ahead, but simply to avoid falling behind. I know there's english words/phrases like "rat race" and "hustle culture" but none of them quite fit the bill like "neijuan". To make a sports analogy, it's like weight cutting in combat sports. Every fighter who fights at "145lbs" walks around 180lbs or more. Fighters will starve and dehydrate themselves before a weigh-in because everyone wants to fight the smallest opponents they possibly can. It's extremely unhealthy, and it's caused serious medical problems and even some deaths, and it doesn't even make the sport any better, yet everyone (aside from heavyweights) HAS to do it because everyone else is and if you don't, you'll lose every fight very quickly.

A few weeks ago, I remember having a conversation with a (now former) coworker, keep in mind I work in fast food. He said that he not only lied on his resume to get the job, but he also did research online and memorized a bunch of factoids and terminology related to fast food, some of which seems to be extremely esoteric, anachronistic, or shit only managers know about, because I never heard a lot of the terms he said. I remember when he first got hired he used those terms a bunch and we were all confused. He said he used those terms in his old (fictional) job. He ended up getting another job lined up, so I guess that's why he felt safe admitting this all to me. Now I know lying on resumes is nothing new, and people lie a lot in general, but this guy went through all this fucking trouble to get and keep a minimum wage part time job. Crazy thing is, he probably wouldn't have gotten the job if he didn't lie on his resume. I mentioned this before but people apply at my job everyday. We don't hire 90+ percent of the people who apply. I remember the first fast food job I got. I showed up wearing ghetto ass street clothes, they interviewed me on the spot, and hired me. Now this job requires applicants to do two interviews, and we don't even interview half the people who apply. With every job now, including fast food, you send them your resume, wait, get your first interview scheduled, then if you're one of the lucky ones, you'll move onto the second interview, then finally get hired (again, if you're lucky). I'm burnt out on working in fast food (and I REALLY hate one of the managers) and I've been applying for other jobs, that are equally low pay or very slightly higher, and I've had no luck. I remember a while back I was at an interview for a dish washing job, there were a bunch of people waiting to be interviewed before/after me, and when the lady interviewed me, she flipped through a thick stack of resumes trying to find mine. Yet boomers say there's a "labor shortage", just lol.

Also related to the job market (and neijuan) is what's happened with education. Today more young people have degrees than at any point in history. Having a higher educated population sounds good on paper, and in a hypothetical post-capitalist utopia it would be great, but in practice it's been disastrous for everyone except for employers. First, due to increased demand, tuition skyrocketed. Now so many graduates have a massive student loan debt. But now that more people have a degree, the value of having a bachelor's degree has tanked. It used to be that having a 4 year degree was pretty much a guaranteed ticket to the middle class (unless you picked a useless major) but that hasn't been the case for a very long time now. And now a lot of jobs that didn't require a degree 20 years ago, now require one. A 4 year degree is the new high school diploma, and no degree is the new registered sex offender. So it's a catch-22 if you're a young person deciding if you should go to college or not. Either you go to college, get saddled with a huge amount of student loan debt, and MAYBE eventually get into the middle class if you're lucky, or don't go to college and accept you'll be trapped at the bottom of the economic ladder for your entire life. And before anyone goes full boomer and suggests "MUH TRAAAADES!" the trades have become just as oversaturated as almost every other field. A lot of young impressionable people took this boomer advice to heart, trade schools increased their fees and many have a long wait list, and many can't find a job after getting certified. One of my coworkers is an electrician who owns his own business, I actually looked it up to see if he was bullshitting me and he's telling the truth. He said it would pay well and he wouldn't have to work this job if he could get enough clients but he can't because there's too much competition. It's feast or famine, like so many other things in life.

The dating market is another example of something impacted by neijuan. We all know about juggernaut law. We've all seen the dating website/app experiments where they use pictures of a morbidly obese woman, or a granny, and it still gets lots of likes/messages, some of which are from HTNs and even chadlites. Ironically the mentality of the guys chasing these women is "there will be less competition" only to create even more of the competition they tried to avoid. You simply can't avoid the fierce competition, you can't avoid neijuan. We see it with lookmaxxing too. Looksmaxxing is pretty mainstream with zoomers. My zoomer coworkers have talked about it numerous times despite the fact that they hate incels and use the word as a catch-all insult for anyone they don't like. They're all gymmaxxing too. What was originally crated by incels as a means of escaping sub5dom/inceldom, is now a tool for chads/chadlites to mog even harder.

The most pathetic example of neijuan is probably online gaming. EVERY game, no matter how "casual" it appears at surface level, is full of turbo tryhards. Every game is sweaty as fuck. Even in non-ranked games people are playing like there's a fucking cash prize on the line. There are simply no more "casual" multiplayer games, and there are certainly no casual PVP games anymore. Too many zoomers are "locked-in" playing the game for hours and hours everyday. Everyone is farming for exp, clips, or stream views thinking they'll be the next big streamer. Everyone is doing a bunch of research on what the "meta" is, memorizing maps, frame data, matchups etc. What's supposed to be escapism has turned into an autistic tryhard-fest that resembles a second job (that you don't get paid for) rather than a fun hobby. It's gotten so bad that a lot of gamers have just quit playing online games altogether and just play single player games. That includes me. After a long day of stressful work and getting shouted at by a neurotic manager, the last thing I want to do is get spawn killed repeatedly and 1 shot across the map in an FPS, zerg rushed in an RTS, or juggled with a long ass combo that goes 65 percent damage. That's just an exercise in masochism.

What annoys me is there's a lot of (almost always male) "influencers" who advocate for even HIGHER levels of neijuan. WORK 16 HOURS A DAY! WAKE UP AT 4AM. QUIT ALL HOBBIES. MONK MODE. YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE JUST WORK AND GYM! LIFE AS A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONSTOP STRUGGLE, YOUR CORTISOL SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAXXED, BE A STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIC SLAVE. Of course a lot of the "influencers" advocating for this live a life of hedonism, but you're supposed to ignore that. A lot of zoomers are internalizing this messaging it seems. I've noticed zoomers, ESPECIALLY male zoomers, tend to have a hyper-competitive mindset about everything. I could give plenty more examples of neijuan, but I think you guys get the point now and this post is TL;DR already and will no doubt be replied to with "DNR". And of course anytime anyone even alludes to this issue, they're bombarded with "SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE, GIT GUD!".

None of this is to say that hyper-competitiveness is inherently bad. It's needed for innovation. But it's not something that should be everywhere all the time. In a world where every man is trying to be number 1, the least capable men suffer the most. I think part of the issue is that society has become hyper-introverted and a lot of time that would have been spent socializing decades ago is now invested in "grinding". Also less men are in relationships and less are getting married and having children, so the energy that would have been put into relationships and raising kids goes to tryharding instead. Society has also become increasingly low trust, which makes people even more inclined to look at each other as competitors. I don't see any realistic solutions coming anytime soon. Hopefully one day we'll have ASI and AI will automate everything and we'll be able to get UBI and have AI gfs. But until then, neijuan, perpetual and ubiquitous hyper-competitiveness, will remain inescapable.
High IQ post. I can agree with everything here. Only thing I have to add is that things aren't getting better. Inkwells need to leave the herd and form their own path.
 
You have so much potential as a writer. Though I am judging as a reader not a writer.
 
Recently I discovered a Chinese word that is laser accurate in it's description of a phenomenon/issue I've observed for a long time, that only seems to be getting worse and worse. "内卷" or "neijuan". Ignore the literal translation of the word, I won't bore you with the etymology of the word, but when Chinese use it these days, they're talking about the perpetual state of hyper-competitiveness in every facet of life, including basic necessities. Increased effort, increased competition, but the rewards are no better. Imagine a race where everyone is running faster and faster, yet the finish line isn't getting any closer. People are becoming turbo tryhards not even to get ahead, but simply to avoid falling behind. I know there's english words/phrases like "rat race" and "hustle culture" but none of them quite fit the bill like "neijuan". To make a sports analogy, it's like weight cutting in combat sports. Every fighter who fights at "145lbs" walks around 180lbs or more. Fighters will starve and dehydrate themselves before a weigh-in because everyone wants to fight the smallest opponents they possibly can. It's extremely unhealthy, and it's caused serious medical problems and even some deaths, and it doesn't even make the sport any better, yet everyone (aside from heavyweights) HAS to do it because everyone else is and if you don't, you'll lose every fight very quickly.

A few weeks ago, I remember having a conversation with a (now former) coworker, keep in mind I work in fast food. He said that he not only lied on his resume to get the job, but he also did research online and memorized a bunch of factoids and terminology related to fast food, some of which seems to be extremely esoteric, anachronistic, or shit only managers know about, because I never heard a lot of the terms he said. I remember when he first got hired he used those terms a bunch and we were all confused. He said he used those terms in his old (fictional) job. He ended up getting another job lined up, so I guess that's why he felt safe admitting this all to me. Now I know lying on resumes is nothing new, and people lie a lot in general, but this guy went through all this fucking trouble to get and keep a minimum wage part time job. Crazy thing is, he probably wouldn't have gotten the job if he didn't lie on his resume. I mentioned this before but people apply at my job everyday. We don't hire 90+ percent of the people who apply. I remember the first fast food job I got. I showed up wearing ghetto ass street clothes, they interviewed me on the spot, and hired me. Now this job requires applicants to do two interviews, and we don't even interview half the people who apply. With every job now, including fast food, you send them your resume, wait, get your first interview scheduled, then if you're one of the lucky ones, you'll move onto the second interview, then finally get hired (again, if you're lucky). I'm burnt out on working in fast food (and I REALLY hate one of the managers) and I've been applying for other jobs, that are equally low pay or very slightly higher, and I've had no luck. I remember a while back I was at an interview for a dish washing job, there were a bunch of people waiting to be interviewed before/after me, and when the lady interviewed me, she flipped through a thick stack of resumes trying to find mine. Yet boomers say there's a "labor shortage", just lol.

Also related to the job market (and neijuan) is what's happened with education. Today more young people have degrees than at any point in history. Having a higher educated population sounds good on paper, and in a hypothetical post-capitalist utopia it would be great, but in practice it's been disastrous for everyone except for employers. First, due to increased demand, tuition skyrocketed. Now so many graduates have a massive student loan debt. But now that more people have a degree, the value of having a bachelor's degree has tanked. It used to be that having a 4 year degree was pretty much a guaranteed ticket to the middle class (unless you picked a useless major) but that hasn't been the case for a very long time now. And now a lot of jobs that didn't require a degree 20 years ago, now require one. A 4 year degree is the new high school diploma, and no degree is the new registered sex offender. So it's a catch-22 if you're a young person deciding if you should go to college or not. Either you go to college, get saddled with a huge amount of student loan debt, and MAYBE eventually get into the middle class if you're lucky, or don't go to college and accept you'll be trapped at the bottom of the economic ladder for your entire life. And before anyone goes full boomer and suggests "MUH TRAAAADES!" the trades have become just as oversaturated as almost every other field. A lot of young impressionable people took this boomer advice to heart, trade schools increased their fees and many have a long wait list, and many can't find a job after getting certified. One of my coworkers is an electrician who owns his own business, I actually looked it up to see if he was bullshitting me and he's telling the truth. He said it would pay well and he wouldn't have to work this job if he could get enough clients but he can't because there's too much competition. It's feast or famine, like so many other things in life.

The dating market is another example of something impacted by neijuan. We all know about juggernaut law. We've all seen the dating website/app experiments where they use pictures of a morbidly obese woman, or a granny, and it still gets lots of likes/messages, some of which are from HTNs and even chadlites. Ironically the mentality of the guys chasing these women is "there will be less competition" only to create even more of the competition they tried to avoid. You simply can't avoid the fierce competition, you can't avoid neijuan. We see it with lookmaxxing too. Looksmaxxing is pretty mainstream with zoomers. My zoomer coworkers have talked about it numerous times despite the fact that they hate incels and use the word as a catch-all insult for anyone they don't like. They're all gymmaxxing too. What was originally crated by incels as a means of escaping sub5dom/inceldom, is now a tool for chads/chadlites to mog even harder.

The most pathetic example of neijuan is probably online gaming. EVERY game, no matter how "casual" it appears at surface level, is full of turbo tryhards. Every game is sweaty as fuck. Even in non-ranked games people are playing like there's a fucking cash prize on the line. There are simply no more "casual" multiplayer games, and there are certainly no casual PVP games anymore. Too many zoomers are "locked-in" playing the game for hours and hours everyday. Everyone is farming for exp, clips, or stream views thinking they'll be the next big streamer. Everyone is doing a bunch of research on what the "meta" is, memorizing maps, frame data, matchups etc. What's supposed to be escapism has turned into an autistic tryhard-fest that resembles a second job (that you don't get paid for) rather than a fun hobby. It's gotten so bad that a lot of gamers have just quit playing online games altogether and just play single player games. That includes me. After a long day of stressful work and getting shouted at by a neurotic manager, the last thing I want to do is get spawn killed repeatedly and 1 shot across the map in an FPS, zerg rushed in an RTS, or juggled with a long ass combo that goes 65 percent damage. That's just an exercise in masochism.

What annoys me is there's a lot of (almost always male) "influencers" who advocate for even HIGHER levels of neijuan. WORK 16 HOURS A DAY! WAKE UP AT 4AM. QUIT ALL HOBBIES. MONK MODE. YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE JUST WORK AND GYM! LIFE AS A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONSTOP STRUGGLE, YOUR CORTISOL SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAXXED, BE A STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIC SLAVE. Of course a lot of the "influencers" advocating for this live a life of hedonism, but you're supposed to ignore that. A lot of zoomers are internalizing this messaging it seems. I've noticed zoomers, ESPECIALLY male zoomers, tend to have a hyper-competitive mindset about everything. I could give plenty more examples of neijuan, but I think you guys get the point now and this post is TL;DR already and will no doubt be replied to with "DNR". And of course anytime anyone even alludes to this issue, they're bombarded with "SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE, GIT GUD!".

None of this is to say that hyper-competitiveness is inherently bad. It's needed for innovation. But it's not something that should be everywhere all the time. In a world where every man is trying to be number 1, the least capable men suffer the most. I think part of the issue is that society has become hyper-introverted and a lot of time that would have been spent socializing decades ago is now invested in "grinding". Also less men are in relationships and less are getting married and having children, so the energy that would have been put into relationships and raising kids goes to tryharding instead. Society has also become increasingly low trust, which makes people even more inclined to look at each other as competitors. I don't see any realistic solutions coming anytime soon. Hopefully one day we'll have ASI and AI will automate everything and we'll be able to get UBI and have AI gfs. But until then, neijuan, perpetual and ubiquitous hyper-competitiveness, will remain inescapable.
IQ-mogger
 
6 years ago high IQ cels could go to college, study CS and put some extra effort outside of college to be able to pass the interviews & get a job at FAANG.

Now you need to do 20x more for the same result.

People these days are doing 1000s of applications to only get a couple of interviews.

The same can be said for many other “good” degrees like engineering.
 
Running faster just so your opponent can run faster
 
yeah, if you wanna see america's future just look at S Korea or Japan, they've got the same issues we're facing but amplified 10x. Looksmaxxing in KR was a thing decades before it appeared here in America, soon, other facets of their broken society will begin to appear here like commercialized and mass plastic surgery, insane work/school hours, etc. I'm totally betting on that being the case soon.
 
2: this is why Andrew Tate is a poisonous influence. He wants more neijuan. He advocates for even more male competition to get crumbs of pussy. He is a fucking Jew faggot and never even worked for his money. Damn I hate that guy and all his followers.
Could say the same about every single person who started pushing the incelosphere/looksmxaxing to normies like Clav, Shami and so on, sure they made a penny or so but at future dime loss, jfl
 
I hate hyper competitive societies
Neijan reflects the redpill, but also modern western and Asian societies in general. If everyone works equally harder, it will be harder for everyone to retain their position
 
Work is important hyper competitiveness is unhealthy
 
Yeah tbhngl that’s true, but kind of impossible
 
I rember when I was a kid in eastern europe. everything was a bit fucked. a bit clumsy. new. finally free of communism, yet full of boomer incompetence. and tech was booming. it almost seemed too easy

nowadays, everything seems impossible
 
I rember when I was a kid in eastern europe. everything was a bit fucked. a bit clumsy. new. finally free of communism, yet full of boomer incompetence. and tech was booming. it almost seemed too easy

nowadays, everything seems impossible
two things:
1. i have watched some soviet union documentaries, and i understand it had a lot of negative things, but would like to know if it was truly shit, because the documentary said that everyone had a job, everyone had quality education, food and items were limited but available to everyone, and after 1945 there were no more famines (aside from the great chinese famine but that's because Mao broke up with the USSR and ignored the warnings). However by 1991 many people started to lose faith in the system, there was this famous movie "Little Vera" which meant "little faith", and is about a beta husband with his nagger wife, his whore daughter and loser son. As a man i really see no problem in living in an equal society with little opportunities given that my livelihood is granted, it's the WOMEN who want the men to compete among themselves and climb the hierarchies. Women are not attracted to average men, they want the top men, and these hierarchies are psychological they don't need to be objective, for example in a group of people they are hardwired to detect the top man and fall in love with him, even if it's a small group. So I wonder if women had anything to do with the USSR collapsing even subconsciously, because all the men were average back then. However I guess men psychologically also need that feeling of competition and achieving things, stagnation is brutal under any economic system, part of the reason why the chinese dumped communism and decided to allow free market.

2. i also love anita
 
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Recently I discovered a Chinese word that is laser accurate in it's description of a phenomenon/issue I've observed for a long time, that only seems to be getting worse and worse. "内卷" or "neijuan". Ignore the literal translation of the word, I won't bore you with the etymology of the word, but when Chinese use it these days, they're talking about the perpetual state of hyper-competitiveness in every facet of life, including basic necessities. Increased effort, increased competition, but the rewards are no better. Imagine a race where everyone is running faster and faster, yet the finish line isn't getting any closer. People are becoming turbo tryhards not even to get ahead, but simply to avoid falling behind. I know there's english words/phrases like "rat race" and "hustle culture" but none of them quite fit the bill like "neijuan". To make a sports analogy, it's like weight cutting in combat sports. Every fighter who fights at "145lbs" walks around 180lbs or more. Fighters will starve and dehydrate themselves before a weigh-in because everyone wants to fight the smallest opponents they possibly can. It's extremely unhealthy, and it's caused serious medical problems and even some deaths, and it doesn't even make the sport any better, yet everyone (aside from heavyweights) HAS to do it because everyone else is and if you don't, you'll lose every fight very quickly.

A few weeks ago, I remember having a conversation with a (now former) coworker, keep in mind I work in fast food. He said that he not only lied on his resume to get the job, but he also did research online and memorized a bunch of factoids and terminology related to fast food, some of which seems to be extremely esoteric, anachronistic, or shit only managers know about, because I never heard a lot of the terms he said. I remember when he first got hired he used those terms a bunch and we were all confused. He said he used those terms in his old (fictional) job. He ended up getting another job lined up, so I guess that's why he felt safe admitting this all to me. Now I know lying on resumes is nothing new, and people lie a lot in general, but this guy went through all this fucking trouble to get and keep a minimum wage part time job. Crazy thing is, he probably wouldn't have gotten the job if he didn't lie on his resume. I mentioned this before but people apply at my job everyday. We don't hire 90+ percent of the people who apply. I remember the first fast food job I got. I showed up wearing ghetto ass street clothes, they interviewed me on the spot, and hired me. Now this job requires applicants to do two interviews, and we don't even interview half the people who apply. With every job now, including fast food, you send them your resume, wait, get your first interview scheduled, then if you're one of the lucky ones, you'll move onto the second interview, then finally get hired (again, if you're lucky). I'm burnt out on working in fast food (and I REALLY hate one of the managers) and I've been applying for other jobs, that are equally low pay or very slightly higher, and I've had no luck. I remember a while back I was at an interview for a dish washing job, there were a bunch of people waiting to be interviewed before/after me, and when the lady interviewed me, she flipped through a thick stack of resumes trying to find mine. Yet boomers say there's a "labor shortage", just lol.

Also related to the job market (and neijuan) is what's happened with education. Today more young people have degrees than at any point in history. Having a higher educated population sounds good on paper, and in a hypothetical post-capitalist utopia it would be great, but in practice it's been disastrous for everyone except for employers. First, due to increased demand, tuition skyrocketed. Now so many graduates have a massive student loan debt. But now that more people have a degree, the value of having a bachelor's degree has tanked. It used to be that having a 4 year degree was pretty much a guaranteed ticket to the middle class (unless you picked a useless major) but that hasn't been the case for a very long time now. And now a lot of jobs that didn't require a degree 20 years ago, now require one. A 4 year degree is the new high school diploma, and no degree is the new registered sex offender. So it's a catch-22 if you're a young person deciding if you should go to college or not. Either you go to college, get saddled with a huge amount of student loan debt, and MAYBE eventually get into the middle class if you're lucky, or don't go to college and accept you'll be trapped at the bottom of the economic ladder for your entire life. And before anyone goes full boomer and suggests "MUH TRAAAADES!" the trades have become just as oversaturated as almost every other field. A lot of young impressionable people took this boomer advice to heart, trade schools increased their fees and many have a long wait list, and many can't find a job after getting certified. One of my coworkers is an electrician who owns his own business, I actually looked it up to see if he was bullshitting me and he's telling the truth. He said it would pay well and he wouldn't have to work this job if he could get enough clients but he can't because there's too much competition. It's feast or famine, like so many other things in life.

The dating market is another example of something impacted by neijuan. We all know about juggernaut law. We've all seen the dating website/app experiments where they use pictures of a morbidly obese woman, or a granny, and it still gets lots of likes/messages, some of which are from HTNs and even chadlites. Ironically the mentality of the guys chasing these women is "there will be less competition" only to create even more of the competition they tried to avoid. You simply can't avoid the fierce competition, you can't avoid neijuan. We see it with lookmaxxing too. Looksmaxxing is pretty mainstream with zoomers. My zoomer coworkers have talked about it numerous times despite the fact that they hate incels and use the word as a catch-all insult for anyone they don't like. They're all gymmaxxing too. What was originally crated by incels as a means of escaping sub5dom/inceldom, is now a tool for chads/chadlites to mog even harder.

The most pathetic example of neijuan is probably online gaming. EVERY game, no matter how "casual" it appears at surface level, is full of turbo tryhards. Every game is sweaty as fuck. Even in non-ranked games people are playing like there's a fucking cash prize on the line. There are simply no more "casual" multiplayer games, and there are certainly no casual PVP games anymore. Too many zoomers are "locked-in" playing the game for hours and hours everyday. Everyone is farming for exp, clips, or stream views thinking they'll be the next big streamer. Everyone is doing a bunch of research on what the "meta" is, memorizing maps, frame data, matchups etc. What's supposed to be escapism has turned into an autistic tryhard-fest that resembles a second job (that you don't get paid for) rather than a fun hobby. It's gotten so bad that a lot of gamers have just quit playing online games altogether and just play single player games. That includes me. After a long day of stressful work and getting shouted at by a neurotic manager, the last thing I want to do is get spawn killed repeatedly and 1 shot across the map in an FPS, zerg rushed in an RTS, or juggled with a long ass combo that goes 65 percent damage. That's just an exercise in masochism.

What annoys me is there's a lot of (almost always male) "influencers" who advocate for even HIGHER levels of neijuan. WORK 16 HOURS A DAY! WAKE UP AT 4AM. QUIT ALL HOBBIES. MONK MODE. YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE JUST WORK AND GYM! LIFE AS A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONSTOP STRUGGLE, YOUR CORTISOL SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAXXED, BE A STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIC SLAVE. Of course a lot of the "influencers" advocating for this live a life of hedonism, but you're supposed to ignore that. A lot of zoomers are internalizing this messaging it seems. I've noticed zoomers, ESPECIALLY male zoomers, tend to have a hyper-competitive mindset about everything. I could give plenty more examples of neijuan, but I think you guys get the point now and this post is TL;DR already and will no doubt be replied to with "DNR". And of course anytime anyone even alludes to this issue, they're bombarded with "SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE, GIT GUD!".

None of this is to say that hyper-competitiveness is inherently bad. It's needed for innovation. But it's not something that should be everywhere all the time. In a world where every man is trying to be number 1, the least capable men suffer the most. I think part of the issue is that society has become hyper-introverted and a lot of time that would have been spent socializing decades ago is now invested in "grinding". Also less men are in relationships and less are getting married and having children, so the energy that would have been put into relationships and raising kids goes to tryharding instead. Society has also become increasingly low trust, which makes people even more inclined to look at each other as competitors. I don't see any realistic solutions coming anytime soon. Hopefully one day we'll have ASI and AI will automate everything and we'll be able to get UBI and have AI gfs. But until then, neijuan, perpetual and ubiquitous hyper-competitiveness, will remain inescapable.
I read everything. Very well analyzed. I’ll add a phenomenon that I was able to connect to your post and understand after reading it.

By now we all know that there’s a trend around the carnivore diet. Supposedly, according to the carnivore philosophy, nutrition should have the biggest influence on appearance, and genetics would play a much less important role than people previously thought. The ridiculous thing is that I even fell for it myself. I sometimes think that if I drink a bit of raw milk it might somehow improve something. Not because I truly believe it, but because I feel like there isn’t really anything I can do about my genetic fate except try something like changing my diet and hope for the best.

Recently I noticed something else: there’s only one supermarket where I live that sells raw milk. Every time the shelf is fully stocked with it, it’s completely empty after just one day. I even think the employees and the manager have no idea why raw milk is suddenly so popular they’re not watching carnivore or blackpill content. Meanwhile, the normal pasteurized milk right next to it is always full, and there’s none of that buying pressure.

Whenever I want to buy raw milk myself, it’s usually already sold out. And I catch myself thinking: these damn Mfs how brutal the competition is. Some bastards who are already tall and have strong facial bones still want to “improve” themselves. I know it’s hypocritical because I’m trying it too, but I’m not blessed with those traits. I’m not tall, and I feel like I need every possible advantage.
 
I read everything. Very well analyzed. I’ll add a phenomenon that I was able to connect to your post and understand after reading it.

By now we all know that there’s a trend around the carnivore diet. Supposedly, according to the carnivore philosophy, nutrition should have the biggest influence on appearance, and genetics would play a much less important role than people previously thought. The ridiculous thing is that I even fell for it myself. I sometimes think that if I drink a bit of raw milk it might somehow improve something. Not because I truly believe it, but because I feel like there isn’t really anything I can do about my genetic fate except try something like changing my diet and hope for the best.

Recently I noticed something else: there’s only one supermarket where I live that sells raw milk. Every time the shelf is fully stocked with it, it’s completely empty after just one day. I even think the employees and the manager have no idea why raw milk is suddenly so popular they’re not watching carnivore or blackpill content. Meanwhile, the normal pasteurized milk right next to it is always full, and there’s none of that buying pressure.

Whenever I want to buy raw milk myself, it’s usually already sold out. And I catch myself thinking: these damn Mfs how brutal the competition is. Some bastards who are already tall and have strong facial bones still want to “improve” themselves. I know it’s hypocritical because I’m trying it too, but I’m not blessed with those traits. I’m not tall, and I feel like I need every possible advantage.
Unfortunately after puberty, when our bones stop developing, there is very little we can do. Achieving our genetic potential in regards to our blueprint is practically over after 17.

We can only change what's on the outside - e.g clear skin, lean, health status, etc.

What's on the inside - bones/plates, etc - is obviously finished developing, but these normies are in denial. They cling onto hope that somehow they will continue to "grow their bones" despite the body finishing that phase years ago.
 
MONK MODE
Very good post. As a remark, well, if influencers also use the phrase "monk mode", they themselves don't understand the irony: there are few Catholic monks nowadays, but there are plenty of Buddha (as well as Jain) monks, and yeah, these guys really couldn't care less about any compeition. Imagine how simple a Buddha monk's life is, how he suppresses all desires, their diet is not nutritious, they have zero sex life. Catholic monks are at least permitted to have a good lunch, Buddha monks don't even have this luxury.

These guys are awe-inspiring.
 
I agree, but would like to expand on this -
I LOVE competition and competing, in everything I've done I've tryharded and gave it my all, basically competing gives my life meaning, BUT ONLY IF IT WAS WORTH IT.
Never in my life have I seen a tedious, boring, or unrewarding activity and wanted to be a part of it.
So many times I've stumbled on problems that require insane amounts of effort just to make it to 0.
Even if you're competitive, that just drives you to the ground.
I don't want to work my soul away just so I can eat and sleep comfortably. I don't want to compete with 40 dudes on tinder just so I maybe go on a date that I have to pay for (even this would be farther than I've ever gotten), I don't want to apply for 40 different companies after 5 years of college to maybe go on a single 3 round interview.
As time goes by being homeless is just more and more appealing.
It's so soul crushing to run just so you don't get run over.
 
@Monikak thoughts?
 
Recently I discovered a Chinese word that is laser accurate in it's description of a phenomenon/issue I've observed for a long time, that only seems to be getting worse and worse. "内卷" or "neijuan". Ignore the literal translation of the word, I won't bore you with the etymology of the word, but when Chinese use it these days, they're talking about the perpetual state of hyper-competitiveness in every facet of life, including basic necessities. Increased effort, increased competition, but the rewards are no better. Imagine a race where everyone is running faster and faster, yet the finish line isn't getting any closer. People are becoming turbo tryhards not even to get ahead, but simply to avoid falling behind. I know there's english words/phrases like "rat race" and "hustle culture" but none of them quite fit the bill like "neijuan". To make a sports analogy, it's like weight cutting in combat sports. Every fighter who fights at "145lbs" walks around 180lbs or more. Fighters will starve and dehydrate themselves before a weigh-in because everyone wants to fight the smallest opponents they possibly can. It's extremely unhealthy, and it's caused serious medical problems and even some deaths, and it doesn't even make the sport any better, yet everyone (aside from heavyweights) HAS to do it because everyone else is and if you don't, you'll lose every fight very quickly.

A few weeks ago, I remember having a conversation with a (now former) coworker, keep in mind I work in fast food. He said that he not only lied on his resume to get the job, but he also did research online and memorized a bunch of factoids and terminology related to fast food, some of which seems to be extremely esoteric, anachronistic, or shit only managers know about, because I never heard a lot of the terms he said. I remember when he first got hired he used those terms a bunch and we were all confused. He said he used those terms in his old (fictional) job. He ended up getting another job lined up, so I guess that's why he felt safe admitting this all to me. Now I know lying on resumes is nothing new, and people lie a lot in general, but this guy went through all this fucking trouble to get and keep a minimum wage part time job. Crazy thing is, he probably wouldn't have gotten the job if he didn't lie on his resume. I mentioned this before but people apply at my job everyday. We don't hire 90+ percent of the people who apply. I remember the first fast food job I got. I showed up wearing ghetto ass street clothes, they interviewed me on the spot, and hired me. Now this job requires applicants to do two interviews, and we don't even interview half the people who apply. With every job now, including fast food, you send them your resume, wait, get your first interview scheduled, then if you're one of the lucky ones, you'll move onto the second interview, then finally get hired (again, if you're lucky). I'm burnt out on working in fast food (and I REALLY hate one of the managers) and I've been applying for other jobs, that are equally low pay or very slightly higher, and I've had no luck. I remember a while back I was at an interview for a dish washing job, there were a bunch of people waiting to be interviewed before/after me, and when the lady interviewed me, she flipped through a thick stack of resumes trying to find mine. Yet boomers say there's a "labor shortage", just lol.

Also related to the job market (and neijuan) is what's happened with education. Today more young people have degrees than at any point in history. Having a higher educated population sounds good on paper, and in a hypothetical post-capitalist utopia it would be great, but in practice it's been disastrous for everyone except for employers. First, due to increased demand, tuition skyrocketed. Now so many graduates have a massive student loan debt. But now that more people have a degree, the value of having a bachelor's degree has tanked. It used to be that having a 4 year degree was pretty much a guaranteed ticket to the middle class (unless you picked a useless major) but that hasn't been the case for a very long time now. And now a lot of jobs that didn't require a degree 20 years ago, now require one. A 4 year degree is the new high school diploma, and no degree is the new registered sex offender. So it's a catch-22 if you're a young person deciding if you should go to college or not. Either you go to college, get saddled with a huge amount of student loan debt, and MAYBE eventually get into the middle class if you're lucky, or don't go to college and accept you'll be trapped at the bottom of the economic ladder for your entire life. And before anyone goes full boomer and suggests "MUH TRAAAADES!" the trades have become just as oversaturated as almost every other field. A lot of young impressionable people took this boomer advice to heart, trade schools increased their fees and many have a long wait list, and many can't find a job after getting certified. One of my coworkers is an electrician who owns his own business, I actually looked it up to see if he was bullshitting me and he's telling the truth. He said it would pay well and he wouldn't have to work this job if he could get enough clients but he can't because there's too much competition. It's feast or famine, like so many other things in life.

The dating market is another example of something impacted by neijuan. We all know about juggernaut law. We've all seen the dating website/app experiments where they use pictures of a morbidly obese woman, or a granny, and it still gets lots of likes/messages, some of which are from HTNs and even chadlites. Ironically the mentality of the guys chasing these women is "there will be less competition" only to create even more of the competition they tried to avoid. You simply can't avoid the fierce competition, you can't avoid neijuan. We see it with lookmaxxing too. Looksmaxxing is pretty mainstream with zoomers. My zoomer coworkers have talked about it numerous times despite the fact that they hate incels and use the word as a catch-all insult for anyone they don't like. They're all gymmaxxing too. What was originally crated by incels as a means of escaping sub5dom/inceldom, is now a tool for chads/chadlites to mog even harder.

The most pathetic example of neijuan is probably online gaming. EVERY game, no matter how "casual" it appears at surface level, is full of turbo tryhards. Every game is sweaty as fuck. Even in non-ranked games people are playing like there's a fucking cash prize on the line. There are simply no more "casual" multiplayer games, and there are certainly no casual PVP games anymore. Too many zoomers are "locked-in" playing the game for hours and hours everyday. Everyone is farming for exp, clips, or stream views thinking they'll be the next big streamer. Everyone is doing a bunch of research on what the "meta" is, memorizing maps, frame data, matchups etc. What's supposed to be escapism has turned into an autistic tryhard-fest that resembles a second job (that you don't get paid for) rather than a fun hobby. It's gotten so bad that a lot of gamers have just quit playing online games altogether and just play single player games. That includes me. After a long day of stressful work and getting shouted at by a neurotic manager, the last thing I want to do is get spawn killed repeatedly and 1 shot across the map in an FPS, zerg rushed in an RTS, or juggled with a long ass combo that goes 65 percent damage. That's just an exercise in masochism.

What annoys me is there's a lot of (almost always male) "influencers" who advocate for even HIGHER levels of neijuan. WORK 16 HOURS A DAY! WAKE UP AT 4AM. QUIT ALL HOBBIES. MONK MODE. YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE JUST WORK AND GYM! LIFE AS A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONSTOP STRUGGLE, YOUR CORTISOL SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAXXED, BE A STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIC SLAVE. Of course a lot of the "influencers" advocating for this live a life of hedonism, but you're supposed to ignore that. A lot of zoomers are internalizing this messaging it seems. I've noticed zoomers, ESPECIALLY male zoomers, tend to have a hyper-competitive mindset about everything. I could give plenty more examples of neijuan, but I think you guys get the point now and this post is TL;DR already and will no doubt be replied to with "DNR". And of course anytime anyone even alludes to this issue, they're bombarded with "SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE, GIT GUD!".

None of this is to say that hyper-competitiveness is inherently bad. It's needed for innovation. But it's not something that should be everywhere all the time. In a world where every man is trying to be number 1, the least capable men suffer the most. I think part of the issue is that society has become hyper-introverted and a lot of time that would have been spent socializing decades ago is now invested in "grinding". Also less men are in relationships and less are getting married and having children, so the energy that would have been put into relationships and raising kids goes to tryharding instead. Society has also become increasingly low trust, which makes people even more inclined to look at each other as competitors. I don't see any realistic solutions coming anytime soon. Hopefully one day we'll have ASI and AI will automate everything and we'll be able to get UBI and have AI gfs. But until then, neijuan, perpetual and ubiquitous hyper-competitiveness, will remain inescapable.
I also found this one to be unique and an overall good read.
 
10/10 post and spot on
I quit dating apps because of this (never had any luck) and gaming has become this autistic fuck fest that I can’t stand anymore.
I re started university like x3 now, I’m 25 and have absolutely NO DESIRE to work. I’m gonna finish my degree in a year or so and I think about wasting more time after that on some dubious studies payed by the state.
Literally not worth working anymore.
I’m gonna live on the government if I achieve the studies I want because what else is there to do…. My friend also waited around 10 months to get into a shit minimum pay burger flipping job, and I don’t expect him to stay there because of how fucking inhuman every job nowdays is.
Fuck i hate boomers and gen X who said that his is the “way to go and get rich” my ass
 
gaming has become this autistic fuck fest that I can’t stand anymore
yeah. can't blame anybody that only plays solo. it's better for coping even if lower intensity. no need to deal with stupid, aggro normalfags
I agree, but would like to expand on this -
I LOVE competition and competing, in everything I've done I've tryharded and gave it my all, basically competing gives my life meaning, BUT ONLY IF IT WAS WORTH IT.
Never in my life have I seen a tedious, boring, or unrewarding activity and wanted to be a part of it.
So many times I've stumbled on problems that require insane amounts of effort just to make it to 0.
Even if you're competitive, that just drives you to the ground.
I don't want to work my soul away just so I can eat and sleep comfortably. I don't want to compete with 40 dudes on tinder just so I maybe go on a date that I have to pay for (even this would be farther than I've ever gotten), I don't want to apply for 40 different companies after 5 years of college to maybe go on a single 3 round interview.
As time goes by being homeless is just more and more appealing.
It's so soul crushing to run just so you don't get run over.
same. I was literally made to win but society and my family still managed to turn me into a pathetic loser :feelskek:
 
Materialism leads to this hellhole, people not valuing things they can't quantify(family, livelihood) leads to them putting greater value to things that can be quantified like productivity and money. People don't want to live in peace.
 
Life turned into a zero-sum competition
Materialism leads to this hellhole, people not valuing things they can't quantify(family, livelihood) leads to them putting greater value to things that can be quantified like productivity and money. People don't want to live in peace.
 
yet its only the males that r hyper competitive due to testosterone. Foids tend to sloth around and pick the easy roads. In the end all they want is to fuck prime age pussy. Thats always been the end goal to most of male ambition.
Females are hyper competitive as well, this isn't only about getting laid
 

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