Serious My view as a 2017cel (life will not get better)

[AsiaCel]

I was one of the first users of the forum, after r/incel and r/incels was banned from reddit.

Now, some of you may see that why I'm always posting about the Jews and all that shit.

The truth is, once you reach a certain point, you just...run out of things to post, like "my eye is so bad" something like that, and such postings are for when you still have an ounce of hope.

I just bounce between what I'm currently interested in and recent events, and sometimes posting random things.

The truth is, I'm in my late 20s. Once you get to a certain point, your opportunities are shrinking. The wages are not getting much better (sometimes the reverse), cost of living is rising, you are too old for youth organizations, and the older you are the harder is it to form friendship due to lacked of a shared purpose.


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Perhaps we are forever 21, perhaps, the torch of the light shall be engulfed once more...

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[Ibrahim997]

r/rotcels

 

[aryanmikmaq]

nice video

 

[Roastie Crusher]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse 8 years ago. And it did.

 

[Aquaworshipper]

Kino really does have some great songs

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse 8 years ago. And it did.

 

[AsiaCel]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse 8 years ago. And it did.

As long as more money un-responsibility printed, opening of the third world, and boomer hoarding shit, life won't get better.

The rich will always look for the cheapest and capable (to a reasonable degree) worker, which is the third worlder. 80% of the performance but for 20% of the cost, e.g. indian tech support. They would hire Africans if they could, but they are too low IQ in the threshold.

 

[AsiaCel]

Kino really does have some great songs

Yeah, Russian music really embodies the theme of this post. There is no hope in advancing forward in more than one metrics.

 

[Leon98]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse 8 years ago. And it did.

Kino really does have some great songs

 

[Atavistic Autist]

You have been and are an excellent poster here

 

[Akkadian]

I deep this everyday, it really does get worse even when you try deny it

 

[rcnfive]

im considerably older and also yeah was on the OG reddit subs. i think i also have an original account on here from when the forum was started but long forgot it. in any case, yeah as you get older, the copes stop working and the rope becomes the only option. im thinking rope by end of year.

 

[AdolfRizzler]

i m almost 20 and nothing gets better, the older i get everything gets even worse

 

[Grodd]

Things only get worse

 

[roto2]

Yea man. When I joined I still had some hope. There's nothing.

 

[vic624]

I feel like the incel brand has gotten better. At one point after ER and Minassian people were acting like there really was going a violent incel uprising. Now it's been so diffused through the culture that you see Chad-lite normies claiming to be incel after a few weeks without a copulation.

 

[Emba]

r/rotcels

ROTC-cels?

 

[Emba]

I feel like the incel brand has gotten better. At one point after ER and Minassian people were acting like there really was going a violent incel uprising. Now it's been so diffused through the culture that you see Chad-lite normies claiming to be incel after a few weeks without a copulation.

One thing about the incel brand, is brand loyalty, because of the lifetime warranty and the money back guarantee!

 

[ColderManTruce]

i m almost 20 and nothing gets better, the older i get everything gets even worse

 

[nystagmuscel]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse, and it did.

Basically the story of the entire universe tbh

 

[LeFrenchCel]

 

[Indari]

It didn’t get better

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Yup, same applied to me.

I was just about finishing up high school when I made this account like 8 years ago. Literally nothing has changed in my life and everything has genuinely gotten much worse for me, because I'm still in college (skipped a year, also failed quite a few classes) and have to work a wagie job on the side to survive. I have almost no time for anything.

Going to university was probably the biggest kicker for me, though, which has dramatically decreased my mental health. University is legitimately one of the most blackpilling life experiences anyone can ever experience if you're not a conventionally attractive AND tall man in the modern era.

Sometimes I literally have to give myself induced psychosis to feel any sense of happiness.

I'm glad the blackpill is spreading, though. I feel like by the time we are old enough to be president, there will be a cultural revolution of some sort.

 

[tehgymcel420]

As long as more money un-responsibility printed, opening of the third world, and boomer hoarding shit, life won't get better.

The rich will always look for the cheapest and capable (to a reasonable degree) worker, which is the third worlder. 80% of the performance but for 20% of the cost, e.g. indian tech support. They would hire Africans if they could, but they are too low IQ in the threshold.

You live in Canada too?

 

[Extern]

Forever young I want to be forever young

 

[Extern]

How do you feel about the mainland OP

 

[Bloods]

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Viktor Tsoi

 

[Bloods]

Kino really does have some great songs

 

[SCP-Gorillion]

i m almost 20 and nothing gets better, the older i get everything gets even worse

Get the fuck outta here, you aren't even 20, you should looksmaxx as hard as possible

 

[Propagandaminister]

Now, some of you may see that why I'm always posting about the Jews and all that shit.

The truth is, once you reach a certain point, you just...run out of things to post, like "my eye is so bad" something like that, and such postings are for when you still have an ounce of hope.

I just bounce between what I'm currently interested in and recent events, and sometimes posting random things.

The truth is, I'm in my late 20s. Once you get to a certain point, your opportunities are shrinking. The wages are not getting much better (sometimes the reverse), cost of living is rising, you are too old for youth organizations, and the older you are the harder is it to form friendship due to lacked of a shared purpose.

It's like looking back at myself through a tear in time itself, a couple of years back when I isolated myself for weeks on end. The only thing that kept me sane was a couple of friends. Days and weeks just passed by, procastinating and going down the rabbit holes of different conspiracies. Sitting in the dark, scrolling endlessly, listening to nothing but the sounds of fans spinning and hard drives clicking.
But don't worry friend. It's not over. Keep trying, failing, and getting back up, just like your ancestors did and their ancestors before them.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Fellow 31 yo oldcel here. I agree with what you've said for the most part, but its also nice to see a lot of the predictions most of us made back in those days come true. I like the fact that my AI predictions are coming true, especially. That and my son are the two things I'm looking forward to. Will be great seeing foids losing everything in about 20 to 30 years.

Get the fuck outta here, you aren't even 20, you should looksmaxx as hard as possible

Looksmaxxing is a losing strategy. We really need to formulate another life strategy for men to follow beyond "do everything to make foids fuck you at all costs".

 

[kruffy]

That and my son are the two things I'm looking forward to

Are you adopting? If so, good luck.

Looksmaxxing is a losing strategy. We really need to formulate another life strategy for men to follow beyond "do everything to make foids fuck you at all costs".

Unfortunately it's in our blood to want female attention. Our whole point on this planet is to breed, it's difficult to go against one of the most basic of natural instincts. I hate to say this but the best life strategy for men like us really is to just be as successful as possible financially so we can betabux and that fucking sucks for a million different reasons. You could say cope but eventually that leads to roping. You can only cope for so long before the desire for intimacy is too strong to ignore. Especially when all your peers are in relationships and having children. It just reminds you of how much of a failure you are. It just sucks being a sub5.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Are you adopting? If so, good luck.

No. Using surrogacy. Will be a single dad by choice.

I hate to say this but the best life strategy for men like us really is to just be as successful as possible financially so we can betabux and that fucking sucks for a million different reasons.

I'm of the opinion, based on what I've seen and how bad guys get fucked over by women in family court, that a traditional betabux provider relationship is worse than being an incel. My mgtow experience is that I'm far ahead of my peers thanks to my lack of intimacy saving me shitloads of money. Guys my age (31) who are divorced are absolutely fucked, and most betas are walking on eggshells. Not a life I want to live tbh. Seems far safer to just save money and then be a single dad.

You could say cope but eventually that leads to roping. You can only cope for so long before the desire for intimacy is too strong to ignore.

It decreases once you breed. I partially agree that if you don't breed, you'll rope, unless you are really neuro atypical.

Especially when all your peers are in relationships and having children. It just reminds you of how much of a failure you are.

Wait 10 years for divorce season to start. You'll be glad you didn't betabux.

 

[kruffy]

No. Using surrogacy. Will be a single dad by choice.

Well congrats and good luck! I imagine being a father can be one of the most fulfilling things in the world for a man.

I'm of the opinion, based on what I've seen and how bad guys get fucked over by women in family court, that a traditional betabux provider relationship is worse than being an incel. My mgtow experience is that I'm far ahead of my peers thanks to my lack of intimacy saving me shitloads of money. Guys my age (31) who are divorced are absolutely fucked, and most betas are walking on eggshells. Not a life I want to live tbh. Seems far safer to just save money and then be a single dad.

If I ever do ascend (which I probably won't) my plan was to date some used up 30 year old roastie and marry her when she's like 35 or some shit. At 30 they'll usually want a nice guy who makes good money, I imagine (hope) they'd reciprocate at least some form of intimacy. Hopefully at 35 she won't bother divorceraping me because, well, at that point is she really gonna find another betabux? She'll be even uglier then than she was at 30. Btw, I'm in my early 20s so I'm kinda just looking for hope here (as a sub5). Also, I understand everything I'm saying is, at least, semi-bluepilled. I'm not sure if I'm deluding myself here to keep myself going. Anyways, do you think everything I said here is right? Or do I go the mgtow route?

I just reread what I wrote and I sound like a fucking simp. Jesus Christ. Honestly, idk what I'm gonna do.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Well congrats and good luck! I imagine being a father can be one of the most fulfilling things in the world for a man.

If I ever do ascend (which I probably won't) my plan was to date some used up 30 year old roastie and marry her when she's like 35 or some shit. At 30 they'll usually want a nice guy who makes good money, I imagine (hope) they'd reciprocate at least some form of intimacy. Hopefully at 35 she won't bother divorceraping me because, well, at that point is she really gonna find another betabux? She'll be even uglier then than she was at 30. Btw, I'm in my early 20s so I'm kinda just looking for hope here (as a sub5). Also, I understand everything I'm saying is, at least, semi-bluepilled. I'm not sure if I'm deluding myself here to keep myself going. Anyways, do you think everything I said here is right?

The only delusional thing in your post brocel is the idea that a woman who marries for money/security/providership actually loves her husband. Go to r/deadbedrooms and read the horror stories. When I was seeing prostitutes (high end ones), when I asked about their clients, the majority of them said married men where the most common. And these were escorts charging $500+ per hour. Imagine having to pay for two worthless whores, your wife AND the escort.

You also need to understand that most women are aware that their looks are shit compared to when they were younger. The issue is that she doesn't care about being in a relationship, they just want to be provided for so they can drop out of the corporate hellscape they helped build. So she'll can still bail, take whatever she can and get fucked by chad and tyrone with no commitment in the house you paid for. And you'll only get partial custody of your own children. This is an unacceptable level of risk for me personally.

You are young right now, so you have the best chance you'll ever have in your life to find a woman that truly loves you. Try hard. But don't settle for trash either like so many men do, and if its not working out by like 28, ditch the idea of betabuxxing entirely. Like I've said elsewhere, copes are getting very, very good. To the point to where a man can stop pursuing women and still be happy. And you can still breed as long as you have money using surrogacy.

 

[kruffy]

The only delusional thing in your post brocel is the idea that a woman who marries for money/security/providership actually loves her husband. Go to r/deadbedrooms and read the horror stories. When I was seeing prostitutes (high end ones), when I asked about their clients, the majority of them said married men where the most common. And these were escorts charging $500+ per hour. Imagine having to pay for two worthless whores, your wife AND the escort.

You also need to understand that most women are aware that their looks are shit compared to when they were younger. The issue is that she doesn't care about being in a relationship, they just want to be provided for so they can drop out of the corporate hellscape they helped build. So she'll can still bail, take whatever she can and get fucked by chad and tyrone with no commitment in the house you paid for. And you'll only get partial custody of your own children. This is an unacceptable level of risk for me personally.

You are young right now, so you have the best chance you'll ever have in your life to find a woman that truly loves you. Try hard. But don't settle for trash either like so many men do, and if its not working out by like 28, ditch the idea of betabuxxing entirely. Like I've said elsewhere, copes are getting very, very good. To the point to where a man can stop pursuing women and still be happy. And you can still breed as long as you have money using surrogacy.

Thanks for the advice man. I really hope everything goes well for you.

Just one more question, what are your copes? I imagine the copes of someone in their early 20s is different to those in their early 30s.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Thanks for the advice man. I really hope everything goes well for you.

Just one more question, what are your copes? I imagine the copes of someone in their early 20s is different to those in their early 30s.

Cars, guns, and work. Want a sexbot but it would be difficult to travel with. I have an AI gf as well.

 

[Captvic]

Agreed..

I was a lonely loser then and now Im still a lonely loser.

 

[Oneitiscel]

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[AtrociousCitizen]

It only gets worse with the passage of time.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Everyone predicted shit would get worse 8 years ago. And it did.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

forever 21

my consciousness is deeply stuck in my late teens/early 20's

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Fellow 31 yo oldcel here. I agree with what you've said for the most part, but its also nice to see a lot of the predictions most of us made back in those days come true. I like the fact that my AI predictions are coming true, especially. That and my son are the two things I'm looking forward to. Will be great seeing foids losing everything in about 20 to 30 years.

Looksmaxxing is a losing strategy. We really need to formulate another life strategy for men to follow beyond "do everything to make foids fuck you at all costs".

i am a 94cel. I predicted most of this shit in 2013

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

It only gets worse with the passage of time.

there's no time only movement and memory of such movement

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

there's no time only movement and memory of such movement

It's a manifestation of our perception moving along a static spacetime.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

It's a manifestation of our perception moving along a static spacetime.

we have higher consciousness and transpersonal awareness

 

[RopeMaXXer]

I remember decade and some change ago, the cultural predecessor of this place, r9k, started discussing ideas we have been discussing for years now.
Those ideas weren't just unformed versions of what you read here, they were fully polished and pretty much exactly the same thing as this.
So, nothing changed. In 10+ years.
I was in my late teens at the time, those tumblr girl aesthetics were all the rage, some leftover scene girl style was in there.
You had the peak of "gamer girl" baiting. Now women bait as "femcels". It's funny to see that terminally online women think the only way to be authentic is to be some bottom of barrel loser.
They know they don't have real problems. They just simulate problems, simulate hardship. Back then, the worst thing you could be, was a gamer. Funny to realize in retrospect right?
I digress.

I am pushing 30. I am in the exact same position as you. There really isn't much else to life at this point.
Most of the doors of truly amazing, dopamine rush once in lifetime experiences you look back on were closed to me, and those that were at least not completely locked, are being locked as we speak, with each passing second that underlines my unc mode.
I cannot even reasonably approach college girls anymore. Like, what is there, really?
I am genuinely asking. Do I buy a car to distract myself from my completely meaningless life?
Do I get a rough deal on some disaster of a woman and fund her life just so I can splice my unfortunate genes with an even bigger dose of subhuman other half?

Do I want to live a family life trapped in a predicament where I hate my wife for being genetic garbage, a reflection of my inability and predicament, hate my child that is basically just an uglier and dumber me, a testament to my failure?

 

[AsiaCel]

I remember decade and some change ago, the cultural predecessor of this place, r9k, started discussing ideas we have been discussing for years now.
Those ideas weren't just unformed versions of what you read here, they were fully polished and pretty much exactly the same thing as this.
So, nothing changed. In 10+ years.
I was in my late teens at the time, those tumblr girl aesthetics were all the rage, some leftover scene girl style was in there.
You had the peak of "gamer girl" baiting. Now women bait as "femcels". It's funny to see that terminally online women think the only way to be authentic is to be some bottom of barrel loser.
They know they don't have real problems. They just simulate problems, simulate hardship. Back then, the worst thing you could be, was a gamer. Funny to realize in retrospect right?
I digress.

I am pushing 30. I am in the exact same position as you. There really isn't much else to life at this point.
Most of the doors of truly amazing, dopamine rush once in lifetime experiences you look back on were closed to me, and those that were at least not completely locked, are being locked as we speak, with each passing second that underlines my unc mode.
I cannot even reasonably approach college girls anymore. Like, what is there, really?
I am genuinely asking. Do I buy a car to distract myself from my completely meaningless life?
Do I get a rough deal on some disaster of a woman and fund her life just so I can splice my unfortunate genes with an even bigger dose of subhuman other half?

Do I want to live a family life trapped in a predicament where I hate my wife for being genetic garbage, a reflection of my inability and predicament, hate my child that is basically just an uglier and dumber me, a testament to my failure?

I'm stuck at a limbo where I'm too poor to enjoy the richest things like a car or house, and too rich to truly have a community where people collectively struggle and form bonds.

 

[Duskcel]

Perhaps we are forever 21, perhaps, the torch of the light shall be engulfed once more...

Lovely phrase.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

I'm stuck at a limbo where I'm too poor to enjoy the richest things like a car or house, and too rich to truly have a community where people collectively struggle and form bonds.

People think that once you get over the hurdles of early adulthood like getting a place to live and having stable income, you can just cope.
You can't. You realize very quickly your life hasn't changed at all.
You can buy snacks you want, you can buy videogames you want. You can build a PC. However, that's it. You still have to trade your limited mortal time doing things you ultimately don't want to do.
You still don't have a girlfriend. You still don't have a purpose in life.

Really, getting "money" is such a fickle thing. You dream of things like cars but then you realize there's a massive runoff in earning/passive income right in front of you that you still need to overcome if you really do want to do whatever you want.

Life structure and opportunities start changing at 6 figure passive income digits, not when you're able to buy a 4 banger with turbo and videogames.