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What a retarded take. Genetic determinism does not say people don't have agency over their own actions. It simply says that people are predisposed to certain behaviors or going down certain paths in life by their genetics.

If you can have real sex but choose not to, you are a volcel. Volcel = "voluntary celibate". If you have Chad looks, you do not belong on this forum. Plain and simple
u r a "Soft" determinist and im "Hard n horny asf" determinist so what
"muh volcel if not" tier argument
only volcels r in convent being fucked by the head of convent prolly
if u have chad looks but are non nt enough (shy/avoidant/hating foids/not wanting to fuck a sieve/too proud to ask foids or express your need) u r fucked
cut the neggroing out
 
It's 100% looks.

Autism is a factor in that we can't, or more accurately in my case, are less willing and interested to partake in social situations. But, if you're truly attractive to others, that is irrelevant. They will find you, and go out of their way to assimilate you. To easily see this in action, notice that there's far less autistic women. Even if they're diagnosed, their lives are unaffected. Because everyone wants to fuck them.

A reasonable argument some have is that you're in that 5-6 range, many of those NT people appear to be in relationships. I believe most of those normies in relationships are willing to put up with being controlled and treated poorly. The "Oofy Doofy" example. This is where autists like myself would rather rot in solitude than be in relationships like that.
 
you do not belong on this forum.
i am touchless = belong here
escortmaxxer (not touchless) n nt pill deniers (troons/foids) = dont belong here
 
u r a "Soft" determinist and im "Hard n horny asf" determinist so what
Care to point me to any prominent figures in the eugenics/genetic determinism movement who agree with your "hard n horny" worldview? 'Cause right now you seem like a unique crackpot to me.
"muh volcel if not" tier argument
only volcels r in convent being fucked by the head of convent prolly
if u have chad looks but are non nt enough (shy/avoidant/hating foids/not wanting to fuck a sieve/too proud to ask foids or express your need) u r fucked
cut the neggroing out
Again, volcel = "voluntary celibate". If you're choosing not to have sex, you are a volcel
 
i am touchless = belong here
escortmaxxer (not touchless) n nt pill deniers (troons/foids) = dont belong here
An escortmaxxer belongs here way more than a bluepill smuggler who thinks autistic Chad can't slay
 
Care to point me to any prominent figures in the eugenics/genetic determinism movement who agree with your "hard n horny" worldview? 'Cause right now you seem like a unique crackpot to me.
havent studied much on eugenics...can name schopenhauer as a philosopher...just fucking google hard determinism n youll have it lazy ass:

Classical era​

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In ancient Greece, Socrates initiated the rationalistic teaching that any agent is obliged to pursue the chief good conceived by his or her mind.[4] Strato of Lampsacus speculated that an unconscious divine power acts in the world and causes the origin, growth, and breakdown of things.[5] Diodorus Cronus asserted the identity of the possible and the necessary and inferred that future events are as determined as the past ones.[6] Chrysippus of Soli refuted the "idle argument" invented to discredit determinism as if human efforts were futile in a preordained world; he explained that fated events occur with the engagement of conscious agents.[7]

The Bhagavad Gita, a classical Indian text composed around 4th century BCE, also mentions hard deterministic ideas. Krishna, the personification of Godhead, says to Arjuna in the verse 13.30:

They alone truly see who understand that all actions (of the body) are performed by material nature, while the self actually does nothing.

Modern era​

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In the 17th century, both John Locke[8] and Baruch Spinoza[9] argued for strict causality of volitional acts.

Men are deceived because they think themselves free…and the sole reason for thinking so is that they are conscious of their own actions, and ignorant of the causes by which those actions are determined.
— Baruch de Spinoza, The Philosophy of Spinoza, "The Nature and Extent of Human Knowledge", p. 175[10]
In the Age of Enlightenment, Baron d’Holbach[11] promulgated the naturalistic interpretation of mental events. Arthur Schopenhauer observed that everyone regards himself free a priori; however, a posteriori he must discover that he had been obliged to make the decisions he actually made.[12] Friedrich Nietzsche noticed that free decisions are graded as causa sui, emerging from non-existence.[13]





Again, volcel = "voluntary celibate". If you're choosing not to have sex, you are a volcel
non nt chad choosing it as a result of the thoughts that were involuntarily put in his mind due to his brain/mind having a predetermined configuration/system that reacts to stimuli/ideas from outside in a predetermined/involuntary manner

arguecel
 
An escortmaxxer belongs here way more than a bluepill smuggler who thinks autistic Chad can't slay
im not bluepilled cuz i never question the validity of looks in getting intimacy
but if u non nt enough (shy/avoidant/too proud/blackpilled asf/autist) n cant help avoiding people including foids, then u fucked
nt comes after looks
 
havent studied much on eugenics...can name schopenhauer as a philosopher...just fucking google hard determinism n youll have it lazy ass:

Classical era​

[edit]
In ancient Greece, Socrates initiated the rationalistic teaching that any agent is obliged to pursue the chief good conceived by his or her mind.[4] Strato of Lampsacus speculated that an unconscious divine power acts in the world and causes the origin, growth, and breakdown of things.[5] Diodorus Cronus asserted the identity of the possible and the necessary and inferred that future events are as determined as the past ones.[6] Chrysippus of Soli refuted the "idle argument" invented to discredit determinism as if human efforts were futile in a preordained world; he explained that fated events occur with the engagement of conscious agents.[7]

The Bhagavad Gita, a classical Indian text composed around 4th century BCE, also mentions hard deterministic ideas. Krishna, the personification of Godhead, says to Arjuna in the verse 13.30:


Modern era​

[edit]
In the 17th century, both John Locke[8] and Baruch Spinoza[9] argued for strict causality of volitional acts.

In the Age of Enlightenment, Baron d’Holbach[11] promulgated the naturalistic interpretation of mental events. Arthur Schopenhauer observed that everyone regards himself free a priori; however, a posteriori he must discover that he had been obliged to make the decisions he actually made.[12] Friedrich Nietzsche noticed that free decisions are graded as causa sui, emerging from non-existence.[13]
None of this has anything to do with genetic determinism. The "determinism" being spoken of here is a spiritual kind, the belief in fate.
non nt chad choosing it as a result of the thoughts that were involuntarily put in his mind due to his brain/mind having a predetermined configuration/system that reacts to stimuli/ideas from outside in a predetermined/involuntary manner

arguecel
Wait, what was that you just said??
non nt chad choosing it
non nt chad choosing it
chad choosing it
choosing it
It's volceldom

@DarkStar @Da_Yunez people like this guy are why NTpillers get a bad name on this site
 
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None of this has anything to do with genetic determinism. The "determinism" being spoken of here is of a spiritual kind, the belief in fate.
ok i said i dont know any figures in eugenics....foids got no agency n r genetically determined to be attracted to chad is that not hard determinism for u? n who cares if tehres a authoritative figure on determinism. it is almost always frowned upon n you dont hear it specially genetic determinsm since it implies muh nazi eugenics n genetic engineering which soys have deboonked

None of this has anything to do with genetic determinism. The "determinism" being spoken of here is of a spiritual kind, the belief in fate.

Wait, what was that you just said??




It's volceldom

@DarkStar @Da_Yunez people like this guy are why NTpillers get a bad name on this site
fuckin retard im wasting my time
wtf do u expect him to do..hes wired in his mind/brain to decide so
u dont see the unobservable reason/cause behind decisions and only see the decision itself n call it muh volcel :soy:
if an nt chad gets to fuck thats cuz he has the looks n actually dont care about fucking a sieve n is not shy/avoidant..he has the will to fuck n fucks cuz he is pre-determined to fuck
the inside and outside of a chad must be..well, chad/fucker
being good looking doesnt automatically lead one to get intimacy but yeah of course foids will wet their pants seeing you but thats not intimacy
i dont know what shithole degenerate u living in where foids may jump on chads....but here even if u 10/10 all u get is attention (nude in DM/ looks of interest/foids gathering around u) at most... no sexual touching for example if u avoid people n r not willing to seduce them back
 
None of this has anything to do with genetic determinism. The "determinism" being spoken of here is a spiritual kind, the belief in fate.

Wait, what was that you just said??




It's volceldom

@DarkStar @Da_Yunez people like this guy are why NTpillers get a bad name on this site
also jfl for thinking a 1/10 creature who has fucked 10000 prostitute is incel and a nigga (regardless of looks) who is touchless is not so
inceldom not "equal to" uglydom but struggling to get fucking "INTIMACY" = celibacy = sex = touch regardless of the reason (of course if u choose to be virgin for religious or reasons not related to non ntness, you r volcel)
 

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