Serious My "Must Read" thread about therapists being the capitalist equivalent of KGB informants has been vindicated

[Atavistic Autist]

I wrote this thread 5 years ago, and recent events have rendered it quite visionary:

Therapists are the capitalist equivalents of KGB informants

As social alienation has increased due to the dislocations wrought by liberal-capitalism, people have naturally become less capable of resolving disputes between themselves, and so have outsourced conflict resolutions to police officers and therapists and the like. It is no coincidence that a...

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Extending police powers to NHS staff could cause 'significant harm', experts warn | LBC

Several leading health organisations have warned against plans that could extend police powers to detain mental health patients in England and Wales to NHS staff.

www.lbc.co.uk

The UK has been seriously discussing a proposed measure to extend police powers to mental health workers -- enabling them to ARREST patients on their own volition, without any oversight or right to due process.

Whether or not this actually gets implemented, just the fact that this is considered a plausible proposal to make reveals everything you need to know about the nature of "therapy" and the mental health field.

Indeed, psychotherapists who oppose this state that it would "ruin the therapeutic relationship" by making patients too reticent to share everything about themselves, just like a suspect would be too reticent to share everything to a police detective.

In other words, it would "blow the cover" of these effective secret police agents -- and make their social role of enforcing normgroid hegemony and ferreting out deviants way too obvious to be useful to the state

 

[Antorian]

Honestly, therapy may have its uses, but they are limited into mostly getting you to finally see that you have problem.
How you solve the problem is up to you, as they can't force you to do anything.

If somebody wants therapy without paying and with less risk of being spied upon by the government, just talk to a priest.

 

[MentalistKebab]

İmagine believing therapy.

Your unhappiness in life is 99% is caused by real things (lack of money, bitches, and power), and talking with randoms will not change.

1% chance it is caused by chemical unbalance in brain, and that requires surgery or drugs, also no therapy needed.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Honestly, therapy may have its uses, but they are limited into mostly getting you to finally see that you have problem.
How you solve the problem is up to you, as they can't force you to do anything.

If somebody wants therapy without paying and with less risk of being spied upon by the government, just talk to a priest.

Therapy has no use that social conversation in general wouldn't have.

Hence there are studies proving that the different "modalities" of psychotherapy (and all their scientific pretentions) don't matter in terms of mental health outcomes -- what actually matters is the "therapeutic relationship" (just having someone to talk to that you get along with, JFL).

This is why I refer to social alienation in my original thread on this matter.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Your unhappiness in life is 99% is caused by real things (lack of money, bitches, and power), and talking with randoms will not change.

Talking (i.e., socializing) is definitely beneficial to mental wellbeing, but most therapists are not the type of person you'd ever socialize with outside of the clinic if you're on this website.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

High IQ prediction.

I am not surprised to see such an authoritarian proposal in the UK, especially with how strict some of their laws are, and with the amount of recent oppressive measures—that said, therapy has always been a meaningless and fruitless tool, with the sole purpose of extracting information and rectifying agents that have diverted from the norm; anyone who is impossible to correct through traditional means, simply becomes medicated, brainwashed, or locked up.

The “therapeutic relationship” was already a joke. You’re paying someone to sit there and write reports about you, half of which can be used against you in court or to have you locked up. This new law just formalizes what’s already been happening quietly for decades.

 

[WeirdoDesperado]

İmagine believing therapy.

Your unhappiness in life is 99% is caused by real things (lack of money, bitches, and power), and talking with randoms will not change.

1% chance it is caused by chemical unbalance in brain, and that requires surgery or drugs, also no therapy needed.

Simple as

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

What the UK Government doesn't realize is this will make mentally ill people hide their mental illnesses instead of them ever seeking to get help.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

What the UK Government doesn't realize is this will make mentally ill people hide their mental illnesses instead of them ever seeking to get help.

Yet criminal suspects often still talk to the police after being read their Miranda Rights

You can outright tell someone that everything they say will be used against them, and they'll still talk

They'll talk despite being already arrested and shackled

 

[Atavistic Autist]

The “therapeutic relationship” was already a joke. You’re paying someone to sit there and write reports about you, half of which can be used against you in court or to have you locked up.

The only use for these reports is to obtain NEETbux or other privileges (like college disability accommodations)