LifeFuel My Father MIGHT have a Math IQ beyond 180 SD 15

[Horatio Alger]

Title. While I initially conservatively assumed that Koreans average +10 points higher in Math IQ than U.S. whites and have approx. the same standard deviation, there is some new preliminary evidence I discovered that implies East Asians might have EVEN HIGHER Math IQs AND SD compared to U.S. whites

This implies that my Father's Math IQ z-score of +4.3 among Koreans might equate to WAAY BEYOND +5 SD among U.S. whites

 

[persona non grata]

Aren't you too obsessed with IQ for a guy who posts on an incel forum? The guys you talk about mogging each other are millionaires enjoying their lives while you rot here. Maybe IQ is useless if you don't apply it. All this discussion is pointless mental masturbation.

 

[Horatio Alger]

Aren't you too obsessed with IQ for a guy who posts on an incel forum? The guys you talk about mogging each other are millionaires enjoying their lives while you rot here. Maybe IQ is useless if you don't apply it. All this discussion is pointless mental masturbation.

MIDWIT COPE

There is when it comes to processing abstract concepts, problem solving speed, and predicting median income for an IQ cohort

Hypocrites who deny linear IQ income correlation

Evidence continues to debunk the popular idea that IQ is largely irrelevant to success above 120, and my less successful readers are going absolutely ballistic. The reason this idea is so popular (…

pumpkinperson.com

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The relationship between IQ and median income is almost perfectly linear even up to the 150s

The incredible correlation between IQ and income (2nd edition)

In this article I summarize all I have learned to date about seven economic classes in the United States: The poorest 0.27%, the poorest 10.5%, the median American, the richest 4% , the richest 0.2…

pumpkinperson.com

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Cognitive Z score is correlated to economic Z score (Median wealth and median IQ of each socioeconomic class correlate)

The median centibillionaire (151 IQ) is smarter than the median multi-billionaire (131 IQ) et cetera

Bill Gates vs Elon Musk: Who’s the richest living person of all time?

For one brief moment in the late 1990s, Microsoft stock reached ridiculously high levels, and the media reported that Bill Gates was worth $100 billion USD making him the World’s first centib…

pumpkinperson.com

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170 IQ Bill Gates had a higher wealth z-score at the height of the Dot-Com Bubble in the late 1990s than 140 IQ midwit Elon Musk in the 2020s

Have you ever heard of bivariate normal distribution?

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Since the correlation between lifetime earnings and IQ is not perfect, there will always be those who over perform or underperform their predicted achievement


Have you ever heard of Bayes' theorem?

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where A and B are events and P(B)≠0.

• P(A|B) is a conditional probability: the probability of event A occurring given that B is true. It is also called the posterior probability of A given B.
• P(B|A) is also a conditional probability: the probability of event B occurring given that A is true. It can also be interpreted as the likelihood of A given a fixed B because P(B|A)=L(A|B).
• P(A) and P(B) are the probabilities of observing A and B respectively without any given conditions; they are known as the prior probability and marginal probability.

Since there are a LOT more 130-150 IQ midwits than 170 IQ geniuses, the proportion of people who achieve a certain measure of success will mostly be numerous midwits even if, on average, those with 170 IQ will have a higher chance of achieving it

 

[slavcel11]

no math for your face

 

[Horatio Alger]

Aren't you too obsessed with IQ for a guy who posts on an incel forum? The guys you talk about mogging each other are millionaires enjoying their lives while you rot here. Maybe IQ is useless if you don't apply it. All this discussion is pointless mental masturbation.

There is when it comes to processing abstract concepts, problem solving speed, and predicting median income for an IQ cohort

Hypocrites who deny linear IQ income correlation​

Evidence continues to debunk the popular idea that IQ is largely irrelevant to success above 120, and my less successful readers are going absolutely ballistic. The reason this idea is so popular (…

pumpkinperson.com

View attachment 1436221View attachment 1436222View attachment 1436223

The relationship between IQ and median income is almost perfectly linear even up to the 150s

The incredible correlation between IQ and income (2nd edition)​

In this article I summarize all I have learned to date about seven economic classes in the United States: The poorest 0.27%, the poorest 10.5%, the median American, the richest 4% , the richest 0.2…

pumpkinperson.com

View attachment 1436219View attachment 1436220

Cognitive Z score is correlated to economic Z score (Median wealth and median IQ of each socioeconomic class correlate)

The median centibillionaire (151 IQ) is smarter than the median multi-billionaire (131 IQ) et cetera

Bill Gates vs Elon Musk: Who’s the richest living person of all time?​

For one brief moment in the late 1990s, Microsoft stock reached ridiculously high levels, and the media reported that Bill Gates was worth $100 billion USD making him the World’s first centib…

pumpkinperson.com

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170 IQ Bill Gates had a higher wealth z-score at the height of the Dot-Com Bubble in the late 1990s than 140 IQ midwit Elon Musk in the 2020s




Have you ever heard of bivariate normal distribution?

View attachment 1472090

Since the correlation between lifetime earnings and IQ is not perfect, there will always be those who over perform or underperform their predicted achievement


Have you ever heard of Bayes' theorem?

View attachment 1472106

where A and B are events and P(B)≠0.

• P(A|B) is a conditional probability: the probability of event A occurring given that B is true. It is also called the posterior probability of A given B.
• P(B|A) is also a conditional probability: the probability of event B occurring given that A is true. It can also be interpreted as the likelihood of A given a fixed B because P(B|A)=L(A|B).
• P(A) and P(B) are the probabilities of observing A and B respectively without any given conditions; they are known as the prior probability and marginal probability.

Since there are a LOT more 130-150 IQ midwits than 170 IQ geniuses, the proportion of people who achieve a certain measure of success will mostly be numerous midwits even if, on average, those with 170 IQ will have a higher chance of achieving it

 

[Horatio Alger]

no math for your face

My father was NOT ONLY BEYOND TOP 1 IN A MILLION IN MATH IQ AMONG WHITES, HE WAS ALSO FACIALLY HTN AND TALL

 

[persona non grata]

MIDWIT COPE

Yes, I'm a midwit. My IQ ranges from 110 to 120. Somewhere in there. You posted all those articles showing that IQ is very important like I didn't know. I'm one of the most well-read people when it comes to IQ. I defend its validity. All I'm saying is that you obsess too much over IQ for someone who posts regularly on an incel forum. In other words, how much valuable is your IQ when all the low IQ and midwit normies are getting some pussy while your high IQ brain rots here?

 

[Scatius Deletus]

Total Father Love

 

[Horatio Alger]

Yes, I'm a midwit. My IQ ranges from 110 to 120. Somewhere in there. You posted all those articles showing that IQ is very important like I didn't know. I'm one of the most well-read people when it comes to IQ. I defend its validity. All I'm saying is that you obsess too much over IQ for someone who posts regularly on an incel forum. In other words, how much valuable is your IQ when all the low IQ and midwit normies are getting some pussy while your high IQ brain rots here?

Apply Regression to the mean + Bayes' theorem to IQ

People with high IQs regress to the mean in real world achievement + while super geniuses have a higher probability of attaining success, there are A LOT more people with lower IQs, which means most successful people are by definition not super geniuses since even low IQs have a nonzero probability of achieving spectacularly in life

 

[Pancakecel]

Why do you care about your dad's IQ so much?

It seems like you live vicariously through his achievements and strengths. Does it help you cope with being a subhuman or smthn, am curious.

 

[Horatio Alger]

Why do you care about your dad's IQ so much?

It seems like you live vicariously through his achievements and strengths. Does it help you cope with being a subhuman or smthn, am curious.

If your dad was one of the smartest people in the Country and perhaps the ENTIRE WORLD

With an IQ that is so high it is rarer to have one than to be a Forbes Billionaire, would you not as well?

 

[persona non grata]

Apply Regression to the mean + Bayes' theorem to IQ

People with high IQs regress to the mean in real world achievement + while super geniuses have a higher probability of attaining success, there are A LOT more people with lower IQs, which means most successful people are by definition not super geniuses since even low IQs have a nonzero probability of achieving spectacularly in life

Dude, I agree with you. IQ is a super important predictor. In fact, it's the most studied area in psychology. But why are you so obsessed with it? You clearly don't spend much time outdoors and probably have no friends/get no pussy, so what's the point really?

 

[laanda]

why do you care so much / are so invested in your dads iq
being incel impacts quality of life far more

 

[Pancakecel]

If your dad was one of the smartest people in the Country and perhaps the ENTIRE WORLD

With an IQ that is so high it is rarer than Forbes Billionaires, would you not as well?

Unless he got rich off of it, no. Other than bragging rights, and most would assume you're bullshitting anyways, what benefit is there?

Are you and your family wealthy, and in positions of power because of his intelligence?

 

[Horatio Alger]

Dude, I agree with you. IQ is a super important predictor. In fact, it's the most studied area in psychology. But why are you so obsessed with it? You clearly don't spend much time outdoors and probably have no friends/get no pussy, so what's the point really?

I don't really care about dying as a virgin or being friendless irl, I can reread Mearsheimer and IR works everyday + play video games instead since I am antisocial with little interest in other humans

It's funny to sperg out on an obscure online forum + as a Fascist, there are very few alternatives to this site

 

[laanda]

If your dad was one of the smartest people in the Country and perhaps the ENTIRE WORLD

With an IQ that is so high it is rarer to have one than to be a Forbes Billionaire, would you not as well?

no, something being rare doesnt mean it automatically becomes interesting. if i had a rare skin condition like that one which gives ethnics white spots, i wouldnt be obsessed with it.
is it just a fixation?
this reply doesnt answer why you care, it just flips the question, to which we answer 'no' and the conversation ends without explaining why you care

 

[Horatio Alger]

Unless he got rich off of it, no. Other than bragging rights, and most would assume you're bullshitting anyways, what benefit is there?

Are you and your family wealthy, and in positions of power because of his intelligence?

He was on the fast track to becoming a USD billionaire, but he quit early on since he didn't want to neglect spending time with me and my mother

 

[Horatio Alger]

no, something being rare doesnt mean it automatically becomes interesting. if i had a rare skin condition like that one which gives ethnics white spots, i wouldnt be obsesswd with it.
is it just a fixation?

Skin condition ≠ IQ in relevance

 

[persona non grata]

I don't really care about dying as a virgin or being friendless irl, I can reread Mearsheimer and IR works everyday + play video games instead since I am antisocial with little interest in other humans

It's funny to sperg out on an obscure online forum + as a Fascist, there are very few alternatives to this site

Fair enough then. Enjoy your cope. It's all about occupying the mind anyway.

 

[Pancakecel]

He was on the fast track to becoming a USD billionaire, but he quit early on since he didn't want to neglect spending time with me and my mother

So, you're millionaires then?

 

[Horatio Alger]

So, you're millionaires then?

He sold his shares in the company prematurely as a condition for quitting, so upper middle class

 

[Horatio Alger]

this reply doesnt answer why you care, it just flips the question, to which we answer 'no' and the conversation ends without explaining why you care

Well, high IQ is impressive since it is moderately correlated with academic achievement, lifetime earnings, lifespan, and height that so dominates success in human civilization

I don't know anything impressive skin condition is correlated with a side from deleterious health + mutation

 

[asuraxia]

no math for ur face

 

[weaselbomber]

I don't really care about dying as a virgin or being friendless irl, I can reread Mearsheimer and IR works everyday + play video games instead since I am antisocial with little interest in other humans

It's funny to sperg out on an obscure online forum + as a Fascist, there are very few alternatives to this site

based take

 

[laanda]

Skin condition ≠ IQ in relevance

look if you want to dodge the question i wont pursue it, but do know you've not said a word to EXPLAIN why you care, and just create ways to not explain it

i think you know yourself that your dads iq is just a feel-better cope. much like race copers use their whiteness, despite their lives being shit

 

[Horatio Alger]

look if you want to dodge the question i wont pursue it, but do know you've not said a word to EXPLAIN why you care, but just create ways to not explain it

i think you know yourself that your dads iq is just a feel-better cope. much like race copers use their whiteness, despite their lives being shit

Well, high IQ is impressive since it is moderately correlated with academic achievement, lifetime earnings, lifespan, and height that so dominates success in human civilization

I don't know anything impressive skin condition is correlated with a side from deleterious health + mutation

I reresponded already jFL

 

[laanda]

I reresponded already jFL

no you didn't. i read the long post, it ties IQ to processing ability, that just explains something we all know, it provides a non answer, but doesn't do anything to answer why you care so much about your dads iq as incel, it just seems like a cope

 

[Horatio Alger]

no you didn't. i read the long post, it ties IQ to processing ability, that just explains something we all know, but doesn't do anything to answer why you care so much about your dads iq as incel, it just seems like a cope

Because IQ is correlated substantially with many positive traits beneficial to society + indiviiduals

While skin condition has no correlates with impressive measures of worldly success nor any usefulness to society, and it's probably a sign of dysgenic genes

 

[SupremeSaint]

and IR works everyday

What/ who is IR

 

[SupremeSaint]

He sold his shares in the company prematurely as a condition for quitting, so upper middle class

Do you live with your Father ?

 

[Horatio Alger]

What/ who is IR

International Relations Theory

I like reading the works of Realists as a pastime whether classical or structural

 

[laanda]

Because IQ is correlated substantially with many positive traits beneficial to society + indiviiduals

While skin condition has no correlates with impressive measures of worldly success nor any usefulness to society, and it's probably a sign of dysgenic genes

you aren't getting this

why do you, care?

I'm not alleging race copers have an equal point. I'm alleging race copers lives arent amazing, they're on an incel forum, and their fixation on race is just a cope they practice because if it matters, that makes them feel better.

i would get it if your family were rich but they aren't. all you are doing is saying 'my dad has high iq, iq matters'

what matters is whether it carries you to greater joy. not 'high iq people help society more and my dad is high iq'

all your given reasons just enforce it being a cope. 'it benefits society, it makes processing faster'

why do you, care?

 

[Horatio Alger]

you aren't getting this

why do you, care?

I'm not alleging race copers have an equal point. I'm alleging race copers lives arent amazing, they're on an incel forum, and their fixation on race is just a cope they practice because if it matters, that makes them feel better.

i would get it if your family were rich but they aren't. all you are doing is saying 'my dad has high iq, iq matters'

what matters is whether it carries you to greater joy. not 'high iq people help society more and my dad is high iq'

all your given reasons just enforce it being a cope. 'it benefits society, it makes processing faster'

why do you, care?

As I said previously, I don't care if I die a virgin with no friends since I'm antisocial + am easily stimulated by reading books and playing video games

Sperging on this forum about IQ is another form of silly entertainment for me since on a meta level it's extremely funny to imagine some lurker reading this. Imagining some normies or even an incel reading this with no prior context is funny

 

[laanda]

As I said previously, I don't care if I die a virgin with no friends since I'm antisocial + am easily stimulated by reading books and playing video games

Sperging on this forum about IQ is another form of silly entertainment for me since on a meta level it's extremely funny to imagine some lurker reading this

fair enough, i guess i can understand the main difference is i hate this life and get little joy from it, and especially with neurodivergence, this differs person to person. sorry for the hostility

 

[Horatio Alger]

fair enough, i guess i can understand the main difference is i hate this life and get little joy from it, and especially with neurodivergence, this differs person to person. sorry for the hostility

That, and also all other factors being held constant (luck, personality traits, et cetera), having an extremely high IQ is better than having average IQ or even merely high IQ

The reason why some +140 and even some +170 geniuses underperform relative to their high IQ z-score is simply because they regress substantially on some other trait like luck or motivation

If there were equally as many +170 IQ geniuses as there were +140 IQ midwits, you'll see that the most of the former would be far more successful as there would be more +170 IQ geniuses with high composite z-scores in luck and academic TIE

I don't think the same can be said for skin condition (genetic abnormality)

 

[laanda]

That, and also all other factors being held constant (luck, personality traits, et cetera), having an extremely high IQ is better than having average IQ or even merely high IQ

The reason why some +140 and even some +170 geniuses underperform relative to their high IQ z-score is simply because they regress substantially on some other trait like luck or motivation

If there were equally as many +170 IQ geniuses as there were +140 IQ midwits, you'll see that the most of the former would be far more successful as there would be more +170 IQ geniuses with high composite z-scores in luck and academic TIE

I don't think the same can be said for skin condition (genetic abnormality)

i agree, yet in spite of this, every time i see some retard with the skin condition i mentioned, they make it their entire identity, and the utter lack of actual benefit to it means it puzzles me much more than IQ, which at least has tangible importance

 

[Horatio Alger]

i agree, yet in spite of this, every time i see some retard with the skin condition i mentioned, they make it their entire identity, and the utter lack of actual benefit to it means it puzzles me much more than IQ, which at least has tangible importance

On average, some races do possess slightly higher IQs, but individuals of inferior races can obviously be very smart (altho the infamous Rushton would argue high IQ blacks would still regress to their racial mean on other traits like schizophrenia or penis size, which are both r-selected traits he view inferior to k-selected traits)

I do agree with Rushton on that

East Asians possess very little body hair and emit less putrid bodily odors than other races alongside higher rates of mental stability and intelligence (on average)

 

[blackpillednigga]

Dude, I agree with you. IQ is a super important predictor. In fact, it's the most studied area in psychology. But why are you so obsessed with it? You clearly don't spend much time outdoors and probably have no friends/get no pussy, so what's the point really?

It's his only cope he has left

 

[Horatio Alger]

It's his only cope he has left

Not the only lol

On top of my father being +180 Math IQ if we convert his Suneung Mathematics z-score to white norms,

I have been psychometrically tested at IQ 152, which was 3.3 standard deviations above the U.S. mean over the age of 10, which is when IQ stabilizes at as per Jensen,

plus I also scored army GT score of 144 just last year, which I just realized has an SD of 15, not 16. So the composite of both would put me somewhat above 150 IQ SD 15

I am not only a racially pure Korean, arguably superior to race mixed Australoid Southern Han Chinese and Jomon infested Japanese,

but I also am descended from Yangban (de facto hereditary nobility) on both sides of my family

My father's side of the family is filled with either super tall or super smart people, and the correlation between IQ and height is robust at about 0.22