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tulasdanslos said:
Don't listen to him, HTML and JavaScript are for web dev. Web dev is filled with women. Do app dev instead, learn Java or C# or Python.
Tell your brother you won't fit in at that job because you're not a "people" person.
This comment is cope. Webdev is and has been for the last couple years, the most in demand. You will have a much easier time finding a job in web dev than other categories.

But i agree that core OOP languages like C++, Java, or C# are a must for every programmer. Rest of the other garbage can be picked up and learned afterwards but one of these languages is ESSENTIAL to begin with if you are getting into coding.
 
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based_meme said:
Then don't waste your time with HTML.

HTML is a waste of time to learn anyway.

Don't really have a choice in the matter.

If i don't do that then what should i do? should i wageslave in a store?
 
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Unsaveable said:
Don't really have a choice in the matter.

If i don't do that then what should i do? should i wageslave in a store?

You always have a choice.

Someone here suggested trades. That's an excellent idea.
 
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Unsaveable said:
If i don't do that then what should i do? should i wageslave in a store?
First, calm down. You sound like you're fairly depressed (well, like everyone here, tbh), and that depression is clouding your thoughts and negatively biasing them, so take a deep breath and go through this rationally. First, I'll presume you're the younger brother, so your older brother clearly has more life experience than you do, besides, he is giving you a good advice, and I'll explain you why.

  • It's pretty easy to find a job as a Webdev, and since your brother is a programmercel you basically have a great shortcut to decent wageslavery.
  • The sooner you get into the field, the better. Don't wait until you're 25 and never held a job in your life, start that shit as soon as possible to save yourself from the stress of being a mid-late 20s low life NEET.
  • Wageslaving in a store is one of the worst things you can do because your pay will always be shit, career prospects are nonexistent, you learn nothing new, you get no networking, no status, no experience in your CV, and your job prospects never change regardless of how much time you worked there.
  • After you start working and making money, you will learn new things, meet some people, and get money. Remember, as an incel, money is lifefuel, since you can't cope without money.
  • As a jobless NEET you don't have many options, but as you get experience and networking and money, you'll have more options to choose in life.
For now, I'd recommend learning the HTML stuff your brother is pushing you into, it's pretty good. After you get a job and some money to cope, your whole opinion about working will change.
 
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ha! I learned that shit when I was 10. was very enthusiastic about it. then I read a long ass dry garbage undecipherable book written by a foid on php. that's when I stopped caring and just ldared with vidya. the more I think about it the harder my life was fucked by foids
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First, calm down. You sound like you're fairly depressed (well, like everyone here, tbh), and that depression is clouding your thoughts and negatively biasing them, so take a deep breath and go through this rationally. First, I'll presume you're the younger brother, so your older brother clearly has more life experience than you do, besides, he is giving you a good advice, and I'll explain you why.

  • It's pretty easy to find a job as a Webdev, and since your brother is a programmercel you basically have a great shortcut to decent wageslavery.
  • The sooner you get into the field, the better. Don't wait until you're 25 and never held a job in your life, start that shit as soon as possible to save yourself from the stress of being a mid-late 20s low life NEET.
  • Wageslaving in a store is one of the worst things you can do because your pay will always be shit, career prospects are nonexistent, you learn nothing new, you get no networking, no status, no experience in your CV, and your job prospects never change regardless of how much time you worked there.
  • After you start working and making money, you will learn new things, meet some people, and get money. Remember, as an incel, money is lifefuel, since you can't cope without money.
  • As a jobless NEET you don't have many options, but as you get experience and networking and money, you'll have more options to choose in life.
For now, I'd recommend learning the HTML stuff your brother is pushing you into, it's pretty good. After you get a job and some money to cope, your whole opinion about working will change.
yeah you're right but it's not for everyone. still if his brother can do it then so can he probably
 
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UpsideDown said:
First, calm down. You sound like you're fairly depressed (well, like everyone here, tbh), and that depression is clouding your thoughts and negatively biasing them, so take a deep breath and go through this rationally. First, I'll presume you're the younger brother, so your older brother clearly has more life experience than you do, besides, he is giving you a good advice, and I'll explain you why.

  • It's pretty easy to find a job as a Webdev, and since your brother is a programmercel you basically have a great shortcut to decent wageslavery.
  • The sooner you get into the field, the better. Don't wait until you're 25 and never held a job in your life, start that shit as soon as possible to save yourself from the stress of being a mid-late 20s low life NEET.
  • Wageslaving in a store is one of the worst things you can do because your pay will always be shit, career prospects are nonexistent, you learn nothing new, you get no networking, no status, no experience in your CV, and your job prospects never change regardless of how much time you worked there.
  • After you start working and making money, you will learn new things, meet some people, and get money. Remember, as an incel, money is lifefuel, since you can't cope without money.
  • As a jobless NEET you don't have many options, but as you get experience and networking and money, you'll have more options to choose in life.
For now, I'd recommend learning the HTML stuff your brother is pushing you into, it's pretty good. After you get a job and some money to cope, your whole opinion about working will change.
this. I used to hate Wageslaving. but it can be very tolerable and even entertaining once you get hang of it. especially in front end development where you can see the results of your work in real time. if OP wants some physical work mixed in, he should system or network administration, they do more wiring along with coding.
 
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based_meme said:
Then don't waste your time with HTML.

HTML is a waste of time to learn anyway.
This. I know HTML and Java -learned it in HS- but it is isn't enough. You need to know C# C++ Phyton and more..
 
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muharremabi said:
This. I know HTML and Java -learned it in HS- but it is isn't enough. You need to know C# C++ Phyton and more..
if OP was a foid, HTML would be enough
 
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Transcended Trucel said:
if OP was a foid, HTML would be enough
Tbh ngl my foid classmates probably got a job after HS. Foids don't even need to go elementary school.
 
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tulasdanslos said:
Don't listen to him, HTML and JavaScript are for web dev. Web dev is filled with women. Do app dev instead, learn Java or C# or Python.
Tell your brother you won't fit in at that job because you're not a "people" person.
I am gonna take that advice.
 
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Caesercel said:
I am gonna take that advice.
the python and JavaScript is harder tho. u also don't get visual confirmation of what your code does as easily
 
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OP, if you want to "learn coding", there is some essential theory you must cover. This is math, so prepare your asshole, if you hate math. You need to learn data structures and algorithm analysis. You need to know your trees from your linked lists and arrays, as well as the run-time complexities of each implementation (FIFO, LIFO, FILO etc.). You need to understand run-time complexity (big O, big Omega, big Theta) and proving algorithms for their best and worst case scenarios. Algorithms are effectively the mathematically rigorous, discretized instructions that can be executed by a Turing machine (aka a computing machine aka your computer aka the thing you use to jack off to loli porn). In practice you won't do this in any job that doesn't require a PhD, but it's very important to know what optimized code looks from clunky code nonetheless. You'll need to know it for some interviews, though, depending on the job.

On the programming side of things you need to learn three types of languages:

1. A systems level language that is close to the hardware. This is most commonly C, and I don't think it will be topped anytime soon, it's just too damn important.

2. An object-oriented programming language. The OO (object-oriented) paradigm is too ubiquitous in industry to simply ignore. Virtually every program you will help write will use OO concepts (classes, inheritance etc.). It's streamlined, effective, and idiot-proof in a lot of cases (except the cases that you need to explicitly state). Java is your go-to OOP langauge.

3. A general purpose all-around programming language. The king, the big daddy, the undisputed champion: C++. You can do practically everything with C++, but some language are better suited for specific tasks (like JS for frontend webdev). It's hard to learn and easy to fuck up with, but that's probably my personal bias and weakness speaking.

Academically, I'd advise you to learn applied math/stats and take programming on the side. It's honestly the best bang for your buck. Computer science as a discipline is fine, but operating systems, compilers, and databases aren't essential to know if your job is going to be slapping together some GUI for a program or a making nice looking website. They are critical, if you want to pursue computer science at the graduate level, though.

tl;dr: do a trade.
 
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Transcended Trucel said:
the python and JavaScript is harder tho. u also don't get visual confirmation of what your code does as easily
I am a little bit used to c++ from school days. nothing else tho
 
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OP, if you want to "learn coding", there is some essential theory you must cover. This is math, so prepare your asshole, if you hate math. You need to learn data structures and algorithm analysis. You need to know your trees from your linked lists and arrays, as well as the run-time complexities of each implementation (FIFO, LIFO, FILO etc.). You need to understand run-time complexity (big O, big Omega, big Theta) and proving algorithms for their best and worst case scenarios. Algorithms are effectively the mathematically rigorous, discretized instructions that can be executed by a Turing machine (aka a computing machine aka your computer aka the thing you use to jack off to loli porn). In practice you won't do this in any job that doesn't require a PhD, but it's very important to know what optimized code looks from clunky code nonetheless. You'll need to know it for some interviews, though, depending on the job.

On the programming side of things you need to learn three types of languages:

1. A systems level language that is close to the hardware. This is most commonly C, and I don't think it will be topped anytime soon, it's just too damn important.

2. An object-oriented programming language. The OO (object-oriented) paradigm is too ubiquitous in industry to simply ignore. Virtually every program you will help write will use OO concepts (classes, inheritance etc.). It's streamlined, effective, and idiot-proof in a lot of cases (except the cases that you need to explicitly state). Java is your go-to OOP langauge.

3. A general purpose all-around programming language. The king, the big daddy, the undisputed champion: C++. You can do practically everything with C++, but some language are better suited for specific tasks (like JS for frontend webdev). It's hard to learn and easy to fuck up with, but that's probably my personal bias and weakness speaking.

Academically, I'd advise you to learn applied math/stats and take programming on the side. It's honestly the best bang for your buck. Computer science as a discipline is fine, but operating systems, compilers, and databases aren't essential to know if your job is going to be slapping together some GUI for a program or a making nice looking website. They are critical, if you want to pursue computer science at the graduate level, though.

tl;dr: do a trade.
my brother got a coder job not preparing for any of this coding shit. Like, at all. His interviewer was impressed by his knowledge of one of somewhat unrelated math field and didn't even ask anything about OOP, web, data structures, etc. He was interviewed for the position of a python backend developer (hadn't coded in python in almost a year) :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
 
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my brother got a coder job not preparing for any of this coding shit. Like, at all. His interviewer was impressed by his knowledge of one of somewhat unrelated math field and didn't even ask anything about OOP, web, data structures, etc. He was interviewed for the position of a python backend developer (hadn't coded in python in almost a year) :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:

RIP whoever is using that software and has to deal with crashing bugs.

This is why garbage software continues to exist. Retarded hiring managers recruit junior devs who don't know their elbows from their assholes, because they think it'll be cheaper than hiring a certified specialist, plus they'll fill staffing requirements to make their bosses happy. But then upper management wonders why there are so many problems and complaints with their product, and shit on the middle managers who then have to go on another recruiting drive to find a specialist to contract out and fix the problem.

Or, OR - and this is my favorite - they'll fire the guy they just hired and advertise for a new position to be filled by another inexperienced junior dev who doesn't know shit, and comes in to deal with the absolute cluster fuck of a mess that the last guy made. New guy is then expected to demonstrate those "LEET NINJA CODING" skills like it asked in the job advertisement and quits a week later, realizing too late the deep pile of shit he just stepped in.

The cycle continues.

I'm happy for your brother, though. Just tell him to make a contingency exit plan.
 
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slavcel11 said:
my brother got a coder job not preparing for any of this coding shit. Like, at all. His interviewer was impressed by his knowledge of one of somewhat unrelated math field and didn't even ask anything about OOP, web, data structures, etc. He was interviewed for the position of a python backend developer (hadn't coded in python in almost a year) :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
alot of companies have hiring staff that doesn't code
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RIP whoever is using that software and has to deal with crashing bugs.

This is why garbage software continues to exist. Retarded hiring managers recruit junior devs who don't know their elbows from their assholes, because they think it'll be cheaper than hiring a certified specialist, plus they'll fill staffing requirements to make their bosses happy. But then upper management wonders why there are so many problems and complaints with their product, and shit on the middle managers who then have to go on another recruiting drive to find a specialist to contract out and fix the problem.

Or, OR - and this is my favorite - they'll fire the guy they just hired and advertise for a new position to be filled by another inexperienced junior dev who doesn't know shit, and comes in to deal with the absolute cluster fuck of a mess that the last guy made. New guy is then expected to demonstrate those "LEET NINJA CODING" skills like it asked in the job advertisement and quits a week later, realizing too late the deep pile shit he just stepped in.

The cycle continues.
yup and lots of retarded companies outsource their code to curries and slave who fuck up alot too
 
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based_meme said:
I'm happy for your brother, though. Just tell him to make a contingency exit plan.
it's probably too late, he's been working for more than a year already, but it seems fine. The main likes him for some reason. Bro wanted to quit because he thought he wasn't great at his job but somehow negotiated a 2x raise because the main didn't want him go :worryfeels::worryfeels::worryfeels:
 
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it's probably too late, he's been working for more than a year already, but it seems fine. The main likes him for some reason. Bro wanted to quit because he thought he wasn't great at his job but somehow negotiated a 2x raise because the main didn't want him go :worryfeels::worryfeels::worryfeels:

Chad trait, tbh ngl.
 
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move to SEA and be a teacher, don't listen to some idiot telling u to study endless hours on boring shit and becoming a wagecuck on top of being incel
tbh, I never got this just program bro shit, programming is the most boringest thing ever and being a low quality codemonkey isnt exactly a great prospect, seems to me like it perfectly fits the depressing imagery of working 9 to 5 in cubicle for a shitty boss and his shitty global corporation.
The great thing about being incel is that you dont have any responsibilities, life as a low status single male isnt expensive especially if you dont consoom so what do you need that 70k paycheck for? So you can pay off your student loans and invest into bubbles? If you want money, wagecuckery isnt the way, its all about making that million at age 40 at the latest and thats done through ingenuity and luck. Girls sell their bottled farts to cucks, probably not even taxed, and you guys still want to wagecuck like some boomer.
 
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HTML and Js are not enough for the web.
 
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Unsaveable said:
It's so fucking boring man but i don't have much education and no job prospects so he told me to learn this HTML stuff and Java script so he can find me a job since he's a programmercel. but fuck me it's so fucking boring and i have 0 interest in it, hell i have 0 interest in anything really, is this what life really is? wagecucking?

As a truecel with loads of problems i have on top of that i'm supposed to study and work, how the hell do i even do that? fuck this shit!
Yea front end web develop is easy artsy stuff.

Anyone can just copy and paste html code.
 
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Smitty said:
tbh, I never got this just program bro shit, programming is the most boringest thing ever and being a low quality codemonkey isnt exactly a great prospect, seems to me like it perfectly fits the depressing imagery of working 9 to 5 in cubicle for a shitty boss and his shitty global corporation.
The great thing about being incel is that you dont have any responsibilities, life as a low status single male isnt expensive especially if you dont consoom so what do you need that 70k paycheck for? So you can pay off your student loans and invest into bubbles? If you want money, wagecuckery isnt the way, its all about making that million at age 40 at the latest and thats done through ingenuity and luck. Girls sell their bottled farts to cucks, probably not even taxed, and you guys still want to wagecuck like some boomer.
This. I'd only work if I had prospects of easily getting females, which is why asia is where I'd wagecuck only. Incel and neet is miserable enough, waging while incel is hell
 
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Are you young and is your IQ above 100? If so then you should. Learning the basics is boring but after doing so you can do more entertaining things, like webscraping and making a browser addon which attaches cuck icons to incels users you think are cucks. I'll add you to my cucklist for a demo:

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MSCW said:
Try modeling.
Sorry OP but I lost hard.

I studied HTML back in the day, it's boring AF tbh.
 

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