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Lmao, have you heard of ilm ul hadith?

ilm = knowledge
al-hadeeth = hadeeth

you are talking as if "ilm-ul-hadeeth" is some rocket science or shit.

Do you actually think there's much difference between that and how the seerah is authenticated? In fact seerah in general is more lax in terms of chain criticisms , which is why it can't ever be used to make rulings.

By this post you have just completely agreed to what I was trying to say from the beginning with @Inceldo. I honestly don't know what the fuck is going on here at this point.

I've lost count of the amount of times you've been embarrassed on here.

If someone thinks believes ALL hadeeth narrations are "actual real life occurrences" and everything else should be thrown out as they don't belong to hadeeth then there is no point arguing with them. You can't simply just debate with someone whose all arguments revolve around what he "believes". I don't argue with flat-earthers or religious christians/jews/hindus for the same reason.

End of story.

because the stuff you spout is mirrored on what you find in western literature and Christian/murtadeen communities.

Now this seriously logs me.

 

[Inceldo]

God you are legit low IQ.

 

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ilm = knowledge
al-hadeeth = hadeeth

you are talking as if "ilm-ul-hadeeth" is some rocket science or shit.

So you have people who spent their whole lives studying it and you think it's simple? Go on tell me, how long will it take you to master classic Arabic? Let's make you look like a bigger fool.

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QUOTE="chudur-budur, post: 1903098, member: 1060"]

If someone thinks believes ALL hadeeth narrations are "actual real life occurrences" and everything else should be thrown out as they don't belong to hadeeth then there is no point arguing with them. You can't simply just debate with someone whose all arguments revolve around what he "believes". I don't argue with flat-earthers or religious christians/jews/hindus for the same reason.

End of story.

Now this seriously logs me.

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Damn, I can see why any remotely intelligent discussion ain't happening.

This is why I asked you what ilm ul hadeeth is. Its a method of validating statements passed down a certain period of generations. This applies to the seerah which as a whole contains much weaker chains of narrations, the same as there are weak hadeeth. The difference is, strong hadeeth are better grouped together, but the seerah doesn't have this grouping.

I don't even know why I'm wasting time explaining to you. You don't even know what a chain is in the context. It's impossible to debate at this level with you.

 

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So you have people who spent their whole lives studying it and you think it's simple? Go on tell me, how long will it take you to master classic Arabic? Let's make you look like a bigger fool.

Googling the literal Arabic translation to act smart

Where did I say those who study hadeeth are fools? WTF. Also every fucking muslim knows what does it mean my 'lim', goddammit.

Damn, I can see why any remotely intelligent discussion ain't happening.

This is why I asked you what ilm ul hadeeth is. Its a method of validating statements passed down a certain period of generations. This applies to the seerah which as a whole contains much weaker chains of narrations, the same as there are weak hadeeth. The difference is, strong hadeeth are better grouped together, but the seerah doesn't have this grouping.

I don't even know why I'm wasting time explaining to you. You don't even know what a chain is in the context. It's impossible to debate at this level with you.

I was in a Dawrah-al-hadeeth program in a Madrasah (orthodox Islamic school), later I had to drop it for different non-academic circumstances. I have done this kind of argument with Muslims like triillions of times over the internet. Now I am basically tired of it and I have zero interest left. Sorry boyo.

I never claimed I am smart, I have no problem being a fool.