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Experiment Muslim-cel argues with atheist soycuck.

Who was more logically correct in their arguments?

  • Muslim-cel

  • Soycuck atheist

  • Neither


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the argument from design has been DEBOONKED hundreds of times. Complexity does not exist in the universe because everything is complex, therefore nothing is complex.
 
Atheists are not soy you retard
 
You cant verify the existence of God the same way you cant disprove it. Just because you didnt saw something it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Maybe its only matter of time. Both have retarded arguments.
 
intelligent design is interstellar IQ but the sandniggers point doesnt even make sense
 
Ali Dawah makes a retarded comparison.

You know there are people behind those products, guaranteed, they were designed, made and shipped by humans. You can verify it and it's based off something that we genuinely know. This is not a question of believing, you simply know there is a process of how products are distributed.

You can show and demonstrate how these products came to be. That's not the case for sky daddy Allah, which we know nothing about except what some schizo pedo warlord in the 7th century said.
@based_meme
They're both correct in some respects, but incorrect in others.

The factory analogy is poor, since you can't access the "universe factory," as it were, from the outside, but I get the point that he's trying to make. He's simply alluding to inductive inferencing.

Epistemically, what he's saying is far from airtight. Inductive inference isn't a very robust means of acquiring the truth value of propositions (see: black swan), but it is helpful in developing an intuition (a pragmatic heuristic) for many things. We do this in life every day as we learn things and gain life experience.

The atheist is only half right when he says that you can't prove God's existence. God is a concept. You cannot empirically prove a concept, and demanding empirical "proof" for the existence of God is inherently illogical (at best, you can only demand evidence). That's as nonsensical as hearing colors.

What you can do, however, is logically prove God's existence a priori, or from first principles, and many philosophers, theologians, and other thinkers have done exactly this in the past. The "Big Four" are the ontological argument, the cosmological argument, the teleological argument, and the moral argument. The strength of each of these arguments varies, and the question of God's existence basically boils down to, "are any of these reasons sufficient for you in order for you accept the conclusion: God exists?"

Anything else is cope - and probably wrong.
 
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True. Thats why im against preaching of the religion, religion is based purely on faith, you cannot convince someone of it, he must come up with his own believes.
You can, technically, convince someone of religion. That's why proselytizing missions and gaining converts are a thing.

But you're right. You can't make anyone believe anything. That's something they have to do on their own, like bringing a horse to water.
 
religion is based purely on faith, you cannot convince someone of it, he must come up with his own believes.
People are indoctrinated at an early age to follow their parents religion, if the white Christian American child was born in Afghanistan instead of America they would be Muslim. Nobody comes up with their own religion and beliefs, they are sheep and follow mainstream religions.
 
You can, technically, convince someone of religion. That's why proselytizing missions and gaining converts are a thing.

But you're right. You can't make anyone believe anything. That's something they have to do on their own, like bringing a horse to water.
Yeah, thats why most of the religious people are the poor, sick, addicts etc, because they actually need something, someone to give them strength. Nowadays everyone have enough information to decide for themselves, chasing someone and showing it down their throat will have the opposite effect, if anything it will drive them away.
 
The four main arguments for God's existence also do not necessitate his existence. The cosmological argument just states that a first cause exists, nothing else. It has nothing to do with any of God's other attributes like being all-knowing.
That's all for you to decide either way.
 
People are indoctrinated at an early age to follow their parents religion, if the white Christian American child was born in Afghanistan instead of America they would be Muslim. Nobody comes up with their own religion and beliefs, they are sheep and follow mainstream religions.
Theres a difference imo, i noticed that the one who follow in their people's footsteps see it more as a national tradition, while the one that chooses, find their religion, believes more in their religion.
 
people Ali dawah have ruined speakers corner behold the new european intellectualism :smonk:
 
IMG 2955
 
I’m inherently biased against western atheists cause they tend to be soycucks so I chose Dawah and I prolly won’t even watch the vid since I’m not Muslim. I can deal with an agnostic person cause they usually just don’t care, but they’re my limit
Yeah, thats why most of the religious people are the poor, sick, addicts etc, because they actually need something, someone to give them strength.
In the West it’s actually the more wealthy people who tend to be religious. Part of that is due to older people being more religious, but irreligion is mostly cultural here. For instance, most unaffiliated Americans are not atheists even if they don’t adhere to Christianity anymore
 
He looks like the average redditor JFL
 
One can't defend religious beliefs no matter how educated they are. It's just a coping mechanism humans developed when they became too sentient. It also helped control the masses so there is that.

Islam is low iq religion even though it can be based sometimes
 
One can't defend religious beliefs no matter how educated they are. It's just a coping mechanism humans developed when they became too sentient. It also helped control the masses so there is that.

Islam is low iq religion even though it can be based sometimes
 
You haven't explained anything. :feelswhat:
Lmao you’re so predictable. You give me an emoji and I bait a typed response out of you by saying “we agree”.
 
Like the typical half-assed self-proclaimed internet philosopher, you spend more time rambling about terminology than providing concrete arguments.

If you believe God exists, then you have to prove that by showing God create things and other observations that could only have happened if a god was behind it. God is a concept, but the theory that a God exists and created the universe is an argument that must be proven.
Imagine wanting to abolish religion like a Stalinist freak. Kys.
 
Bad analogy on the point of the muslim.
I would have argued that the Big-Bang Theory (What many athiests believe in) isn't verifiable either. There are many holes in the belief and we can't verify "Conditions were right and an explosion happened"
 
Like the typical half-assed self-proclaimed internet philosopher, you spend more time rambling about terminology than providing concrete arguments.

If you believe God exists, then you have to prove that by showing God create things and other observations that could only have happened if a god was behind it. God is a concept, but the theory that a God exists and created the universe is an argument that must be proven.
Rent free, femdom cuck.
 
Dnw bc god doesn't exist
 
I don't want to abolish religion. I just want to laugh at the copers thinking God exists and is going to reward them when in reality their brutal, pathetic existence has no redemption.
You said you did in your intro thread, the “AMA” one. That thread is now gone for some reason.
 
if anything, abrahamic religions are giga soy
 
Pretty sure I didn't, I only remember saying I opposed religion. Anyway I've changed a lot since my first post here a year ago and I'm no longer a leftie anymore
You’re not a leftie? What are your views now and what made you change?
 

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