Serious Most people cannot handle the blackpill.

[never began]

There's a reason why whiteknights, simps, cucks exist, and will exist no matter how many times they are kicked down.

The blackpill is brutal, it presents an insurmountable problem but offers to recluse to fix it, which is why bluepillers go to Redpill but never black.

simply accepting it is highly detrimental, how many of us could live in relative happiness if they were super bluepilled? How many of us suicided or truly gave up?

People like to have hope, which is why incel ideology will never really ramp up from the casual amount of subhumans spread across the globe.

 

[never began]

There's a reason why whiteknights, simps, cucks exist, and will exist no matter how many times they are kicked down.

The blackpill is brutal, it presents an insurmountable problem but offers to recluse to fix it, which is why bluepillers go to Redpill but never black.

simply accepting it is highly detrimental, how many of us could live in relative happiness if they were super bluepilled? How many of us suicided or truly gave up?

People like to have hope, which is why incel ideology will never really ramp up from the casual amount of subhumans spread across the globe.

Expanding on this, there is alot of posts were women and men alike will agree with several points of the blackpill but not it as a whole. It's a deadly packet which everyone subconsciously know it's true, if you were to present only 1 point of the pill, most ppl accept. But not the whole thing, they couldn't cope with it.

 

[NihilisticSoul]

You think simps (Incels in denial) eventually join forums like this?

 

[never began]

You think simps (Incels in denial) eventually join forums like this?

Nah, like I said, unless something major happens where they're absolutely forced to accept it, they will go the boomer route after their betabuxx marriages fall apart with MGTOW and Redpill.

 

[Saint Cho]

You think simps (Incels in denial) later eventually join forums like this?

No, they'll betabuxx a post-carousel whore and claim that personality was the solution all along.

 

[PLA1092]

Pretty much, realizing every facet of your life is disadvantaged simply by being ugly and that nothing is stopping foids from getting even more hypergamous and leaving more men in the dust is a concept the average normie or above can't grasp, it's too brutal and too far away from their own experiences since they're not sub 5s; sub 5 bluepillers just can't accept their reality as it would mean we were right the entire time, same reason ITcucks/the media are so obsessed with defaming us.

 

[proudweeb]

Imagine learning about the blackpill the hard way - through a lifetime of failure

 

[Villain Of Blkpill]

why do people think blackpill means giving up?

you know surgerymaxxing and geomaxxing exists right?

 

[never began]

why do people think blackpill means giving up?

you know surgerymaxxing and geomaxxing exists right?

Fakecell behavior. Truecells are hideous from Japan to France and back.

 

[sneed (not chuck)]

I agree. Even among the "blackpilled", most people still hold onto a shred of hope that they may ascend one day. Hell, I still cling onto the 0.00001% chance that I might get with my oneitis. Honestly, as long as normies aren't actively being hostile to incels, I can understand why they choose the bluepill route.

 

[wei#3959]

I can

 

[wei#3959]

Imagine learning about the blackpill the hard way - through a lifetime of failure

Brutal brutal brutal

 

[righteouscel]

I feel like they already know it But don't care

 

[proudweeb]

Brutal brutal brutal

In my generation we only had the redpill (not even called that, it was just PUA shit) at the time

so the only advice I got was to cold approach 5000 times, socialmaxx and wear nice clothes

 

[ResidentHell]

OP is right. The is a pill of emotional defeat and destruction of ego. Coming to full acceptance of it would normally destroy the ego or ambitiousness of whoever takes it. The destruction of ego and ambition can easily lead to voluntary reclusion, depression or / and suicidal impulse

Many normies will avoid the because they know the consumption of can destroy their will to live and draw them into a state of emotional defeat. The takes on a nihlist, misanthropic and sometimes anarchist view of natural life, which can be dangerous to the survival and welfare of the human ecosystem

 

[Asgard]

Imagine learning about the blackpill the hard way - through a lifetime of failure

 

[based_meme]

incel ideology

STFU, retarded GrAYfag.

Inceldom isn't an ideology.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

STFU, retarded GrAYfag.

Indeed.

 

[never began]

STFU, retarded GrAYfag.

Inceldom isn't an ideology.

*blakpil
There, better? Stupid fucking retard you know exactly what I meant but you just want to be an elitist.

 

[based_meme]

*blakpil
There, better? Stupid fucking retard you know exactly what I meant but you just want to be an elitist.

No, you dumb fucking nigger. The black pill isn't an ideology either.

JFL

 

[never began]

No, you dumb fucking nigger. The black pill isn't an ideology either.

JFL

Definition of IDEOLOGY

a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture; the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program; a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

It's fine I wouldn't expect trash like you to be able to put up a basic conversation

 

[based_meme]

Definition of IDEOLOGY

a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture; the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program; a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

It's fine I wouldn't expect trash like you to be able to put up a basic conversation

It's as much an "ideology" as the scientific method or philosophical discourse is. That is, none.

Now STFU, GrAYfag.

 

[never began]

It's as much an "ideology" as the scientific method or philosophical discourse is. That is, none.

Now STFU, GrAYfag.

This post is brutal proof of the lowIQpill

 

[Dennis Rodman]

People getblackpilled through continue negative experiences, normies experience good memories from time to time so they won't get blackpilled never ,

 

[based_meme]

This post is brutal proof of the lowIQpill

OK, GrAYass, tell us all what the BLACK PILL IDEOLOGY is, and how it's an ideology.

 

[never began]

OK, GrAYass, tell us all what the BLACK PILL IDEOLOGY is, and how it's an ideology.

I really don't feel like writing a thesis to appease a monkey raging in my thread because he didn't bother looking up the definition of a fucking ideology.

 

[based_meme]

I really don't feel like writing a thesis to appease a monkey raging in my thread because he didn't bother looking up the definition of a fucking ideology.

Yeah, just as I thought.

OK, you can fuck right off by back to reddit or whatever cesspool you came from. Or just kys. I'm fine with either.

 

[never began]

Yeah, just as I thought.

OK, you can fuck right off by back to reddit or whatever cesspool you came from. Or just kys. I'm fine with either.

Hilarious. Next time do take the time to actually Google the definition of something atleast.

 

[based_meme]

Hilarious. Next time do take the time to actually Google the definition of something atleast.

Newfag, dumbass GrAY comes in here telling us how things are and is too arrogant to explain it when pressed.

Tell us what the "BLACK PILL IDEOLOGY" is and explain how it's an ideology, or STFU and GTFO.

 

[never began]

Newfag, dumbass GrAY comes in here telling us how things are and is too arrogant to explain it when pressed.

Tell us what the "BLACK PILL IDEOLOGY" is and explain how it's an ideology, or STFU and GTFO.

Are u geniunely puzzled. It's not very hard to see how blackpill is an ideology. Again, let's go to the fucking definition.

a
: a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture
b
: the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program
c
: a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture

hypergamy, genetics, looks, etc all clump together to form the blackpill. It's a series of theories all backed by overwhelming scientific evidence. Sure it's cringe when you see journalists go "the HARMFUL INCEL IDEOLOGY" but soy aside it is an ideology. It's a set of beliefs.

 

[based_meme]

hypergamy, genetics, looks, etc all clump together to form the blackpill. It's a series of theories all backed by overwhelming scientific evidence. Sure it's cringe when you see journalists go "the HARMFUL INCEL IDEOLOGY" but soy aside it is an ideology. It's a set of beliefs.

OK, good. We're making progress.

hypergamy, genetics, looks, etc all clump together to form the blackpill.

They form aspects of the black pill. The black pill is about a lot more than looks, hypergamy etc.

It's a series of theories all backed by overwhelming scientific evidence.

Almost correct. It's a set of conclusions derived from that overwhelming scientific evidence. Some people take those conclusions and form theories of their own. Some are sensible (LMS), while others are total nonsense (ODT, or "Oofy Doofy Theory").

Sure it's cringe when you see journalists go "the HARMFUL INCEL IDEOLOGY" but soy aside it is an ideology. It's a set of beliefs.

False. To reiterate, it's a set of conclusions derived from scientific evidence. But it became more. The black pill evolved into a philosophy (note: this is very different than ideology) in its own right. It's a way of seeing and processing the world.

Philosophy explores truth, and the black pill (as a philosophy) explores truth in the harshest, coldest manner, void of all the social, political, tribal, and cultural baggage. The truths that the black pill commonly explores happens to be exactly those baggage-heavy domains. This is precisely why a lot of black pill truths are not PC and appear to be racist/misogynist/whateverist.

As a consequence of the black pill as a philosophy, elements of other philosophies get incorporated into it and it becomes muddied (or corrupted, if you're a purist). There's a very strong tendency towards nihilism ("it's over," "it never began," "cope or rope"), for example, and often times the black pill is misunderstood as some kind of subset of nihilism. While it's true that the black pill lets you pierce the veil on many things and allows you see things for how they are, the outlook of the individual looking at everything through the black pill could run the risk of falling into nihilism or similar pessimistic worldviews.

These individual outlooks, however, are not representative of the whole. Incels and their personal beliefs, worldviews, and morals are not unified into a monolithic system aka ideology. Just spend time here and you'll see how vastly different one user is from the other in terms of these things. For the black pill to be an ideology, it has to be a set of beliefs prescribed to a group which also define it. The black pill is neither prescriptive, nor does it identify or define incels. There are blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled incels. You'll find the former two all over the place, including here, unfortunately. There are also blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled non-incels.

You've already alluded to it, but the reason why I'm extremely hostile to such phrasings of "incel ideology" and "black pill ideology" is, not only that it's logically and factually incorrect, but because it's what media types (academics too) use to push a narrative that demonizes and vilifies us to a broader audience. Using their language in here - either wittingly or unwittingly - is extremely tilting.

 

[ResidentHell]

They form aspects of the black pill. The black pill is about a lot more than looks, hypergamy etc.

Almost correct. It's a set of conclusions derived from that overwhelming scientific evidence. Some people take those conclusions and form theories of their own. Some are sensible (LMS), while others are total nonsense (ODT, or "Oofy Doofy Theory").

To reiterate, it's a set of conclusions derived from scientific evidence. But it became more. The black pill evolved into a philosophy (note: this is very different than ideology) in its own right. It's a way of seeing and processing the world.

Philosophy explores truth, and the black pill (as a philosophy) explores truth in the harshest, coldest manner, void of all the social, political, tribal, and cultural baggage. The truths that the black pill commonly explores happens to be exactly those baggage-heavy domains. This is precisely why a lot of black pill truths are not PC and appear to be racist/misogynist/whateverist.

As a consequence of the black pill as a philosophy, elements of other philosophies get incorporated into it and it becomes muddied (or corrupted, if you're a purist). There's a very strong tendency towards nihilism ("it's over," "it never began," "cope or rope"), for example, and often times the black pill is misunderstood as some kind of subset of nihilism. While it's true that the black pill lets you pierce the veil on many things and allows you see things for how they are, the outlook of the individual looking at everything through the black pill could run the risk of falling into nihilism or similar pessimistic worldviews.

These individual outlooks, however, are not representative of the whole. Incels and their personal beliefs, worldviews, and morals are not unified into a monolithic system aka ideology. Just spend time here and you'll see how vastly different one user is from the other in terms of these things. For the black pill to be an ideology, it has to be a set of beliefs prescribed to a group which also define it. The black pill is neither prescriptive, nor does it identify or define incels. There are blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled incels. You'll find the former two all over the place, including here, unfortunately. There are also blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled non-incels.

You've already alluded to it, but the reason why I'm extremely hostile to such phrasings of "incel ideology" and "black pill ideology" is, not only that it's logically and factually incorrect, but because it's what media types (academics too) use to push a narrative that demonizes and vilifies us to a broader audience. Using their language in here - either wittingly or unwittingly - is extremely tilting.

Well said . I don't think this could have been explained any better

I understand what @never began means by the is ideological. The scientific approach to all conclusions made through observation would normally be first presented as hypothetical, in order to allow criticism and review of misconseptions, false assertions or limited interpretations that may be made about the observed phenomena. But when the amount of empirical evidence to support a particular "theory" is above a somewhat certain threshold --- You would have to be batshit insane or in a state of denial to continue to refer to the "theory" as ideology instead of a (mostly) scientific phenomena

 

[Righteous Hitter]

OP is right. The is a pill of emotional defeat and destruction of ego. Coming to full acceptance of it would normally destroy the ego or ambitiousness of whoever takes it. The destruction of ego and ambition can easily lead to voluntary reclusion, depression or / and suicidal impulse

Many normies will avoid the because they know the consumption of can destroy their will to live and draw them into a state of emotional defeat. The takes on a nihlist, misanthropic and sometimes anarchist view of natural life, which can be dangerous to the survival and welfare of the human ecosystem

 

[AnotherInsertCel]

Blackpill is the watered down version of realitypill.

 

[never began]

OK, good. We're making progress.


They form aspects of the black pill. The black pill is about a lot more than looks, hypergamy etc.

More or less the basis. Really no point in arguing this since it's a nitpick. If you refuse any of those major aspects you are not pild.

Almost correct. It's a set of conclusions derived from that overwhelming scientific evidence. Some people take those conclusions and form theories of their own. Some are sensible (LMS), while others are total nonsense (ODT, or "Oofy Doofy Theory").


False. To reiterate, it's a set of conclusions derived from scientific evidence. But it became more. The black pill evolved into a philosophy (note: this is very different than ideology) in its own right. It's a way of seeing and processing the world.

Philosophy explores truth, and the black pill (as a philosophy) explores truth in the harshest, coldest manner, void of all the social, political, tribal, and cultural baggage. The truths that the black pill commonly explores happens to be exactly those baggage-heavy domains. This is precisely why a lot of black pill truths are not PC and appear to be racist/misogynist/whateverist.

As a consequence of the black pill as a philosophy, elements of other philosophies get incorporated into it and it becomes muddied (or corrupted, if you're a purist). There's a very strong tendency towards nihilism ("it's over," "it never began," "cope or rope"), for example, and often times the black pill is misunderstood as some kind of subset of nihilism. While it's true that the black pill lets you pierce the veil on many things and allows you see things for how they are, the outlook of the individual looking at everything through the black pill could run the risk of falling into nihilism or similar pessimistic worldviews.

These individual outlooks, however, are not representative of the whole. Incels and their personal beliefs, worldviews, and morals are not unified into a monolithic system aka ideology. Just spend time here and you'll see how vastly different one user is from the other in terms of these things. For the black pill to be an ideology, it has to be a set of beliefs prescribed to a group which also define it. The black pill is neither prescriptive, nor does it identify or define incels. There are blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled incels. You'll find the former two all over the place, including here, unfortunately. There are also blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled non-incels.

A philosophy tends to be a beginning; an ideology tends to be an ending.

An example of a “philosophy” is Plato’s Academy. When Plato asked the question, “What is justice?” he did not feel that he had articulated a complete answer. Far from it. That was why he started the Academy, in which questions might continue to be discussed and debated. For Plato’s biggest faith was in dialectic… the process of question and answer designed at getting ever better approximations of the truth.

Because, for Plato, philosophy was just that: the LOVE of wisdom, or truth. And one who is a true lover of wisdom never stops trying to improve their understanding of what is true. They never stop learning.

An ideology is usually a philosophy that has been, at least for now, closed. In the old Soviet Union, Communist philosophy had become Marxist-Leninist ideology. The important questions had all been answered; the goal, then, was to make sure that everybody understood this way of thinking and nobody questioned it.

yes, there are ever increasing number of pills but there's always the basis and frame, that everyone agrees is blackpilld.
Short pill, framepi-

Actually, yeah. The blackpill wouldn't be an ideology at all. It's way too disjointed. There is no one leader of the pill.

Theoretically you could be a Chad but still be blackpilled because of your experiences.

You've already alluded to it, but the reason why I'm extremely hostile to such phrasings of "incel ideology" and "black pill ideology" is, not only that it's logically and factually incorrect, but because it's what media types (academics too) use to push a narrative that demonizes and vilifies us to a broader audience. Using their language in here - either wittingly or unwittingly - is extremely tilting.

I recognized that from the first post but didn't really find a good replacement for the word. Meh, we'd be vilified one or way the other.
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I suppose I can't realistically win this. The blackpill is still an open and young philosophy rapidly growing and evolving under societal pressure.

One day it will most likely settle into stable pieces everyone agrees into, and finally into an actual ideology, after all all ideas hit a ceiling eventually. Maybe I'll be right in 2025 lol. It's still just starting.

 

[based_meme]

A philosophy tends to be a beginning; an ideology tends to be an ending.

Absolutely. This is why I'm fighting the end. If the blackpill is ever formally ideologized and given a figurehead through some bizarre means, it's over.

An ideology is usually a philosophy that has been, at least for now, closed. In the old Soviet Union, Communist philosophy had become Marxist-Leninist ideology. The important questions had all been answered; the goal, then, was to make sure that everybody understood this way of thinking and nobody questioned it.

This is an interesting take on philosophy and ideology. Ideology is the villain that philosophy could become.

yes, there are ever increasing number of pills but there's always the basis and frame, that everyone agrees is blackpilld.
Short pill, framepi-

Actually, yeah. The blackpill wouldn't be an ideology at all. It's way too disjointed. There is no one leader of the pill.

Nor should there ever be. Having an "authority" on the black pill is antithetical to the black pill itself. It defies its essence.

Theoretically you could be a Chad but still be blackpilled because of your experiences.

There already are black pilled chads. And yes, I've argued extensively in the past that in order to be truly black pilled, you must live through the experiences. Reading about the black pill won't make you black pilled.

The blackpill is still an open and young philosophy rapidly growing and evolving under societal pressure.

It's growing tumors, unfortunately. Those pressures are coming from all of the wrong directions. We need to work together and cultivate the philosophy internally and resist any and all outside influences, else it will devolve and fast become an ideology - the kind that outside forces want to use against incels.

Unfortunately, there have already been users here trying to formalize the black pill into some kind of ideology, to no avail, thankfully. It was met with great resistance. I won't name them here and give them the attention.

One day it will most likely settle into stable pieces everyone agrees into, and finally into an actual ideology, after all all ideas hit a ceiling eventually. Maybe I'll be right in 2025 lol. It's still just starting.

No offence, but I hope you're wrong. If the black pill ever becomes an ideology, it will cloister us further and produce radical elements, exactly like how the ones pushing certain narratives want.