Serious Most of you choose to be miserable

[subhuman]

If you want to have sex just get a prostitute. And inb4 muh it’s not the same bro most of you haven’t even tried it lmfao. I’m not listening to the opinions on escorting from people who have never had sex.

If you want to have love and companionship just get a dog. A dog will probably be more loyal than any foid you might get kek.

Life as an incel actually isn’t as bleak and hopeless as you guys make it out to be. I’m actually being happy right now even though I’ve never had a gf. If you want to be miserable, I think that’s your choice. Yeah people choose to be miserable. You might think it sounds stupid, but the reality is that people dont act solely in self interest. They are also motivated by the desire to prove to themselves that they are free. Even though the good life is available to you guys, most of you refuse it and make up shitty copes and excuses to justify being unhappy. You should read notes from underground

And honestly pretty much everybody here is coping about looks. I’m not denying that looks matter. But most of you guys are 4/10 and not even that ugly. Or some of you guys your only flaw is being ethnic. Like bro I see 4/10s and ethnics with gfs every time I go outside. Also some of you are 6ft+? Explain how you can be incel. A lot of times people here will identify with really ugly people and adopt their struggle as their own, even though they mog these people, because they want to feel like it’s over. In reality there are degeees to ugliness. If you are like 4/10 or 3/10 it’s not over

True misery is when you are actually struggling with mental problems. I remember an episode of when I was struggling with OCD and I was smashing a bunch of shit in a fit of rage because I had just spent like 2 hours washing my hands and then they got contaminated again so I had to go through the ritual all over again to make them perfect And I remember thinking to myself that the pain I was feeling then was so much worse than the pain of loneliness that I would rather be forever alone and not have ocd than to continue suffering with it but have a gf. Thankfully now I have gotten better and it’s much more comfy (even though I’m still struggling with my autism which is why I’m incel) but you guys who have never gone through something similar are just ungrateful.

I suspect for most of you guys, inceldom is a lot more volcedom than you care to admit. Just admit it that you like to LDAR, you like to feel like a victim, and you like to be comfy and not have the stress of maintaining a social life and relationships

 

[Oroborus]

Even though the good life is available to you guys, most of you refuse it and make up shitty copes and excuses to justify being unhappy.

Then nuke the fucking forum. Escorts are the answer, its only about getting money and betabuxx for them

 

[subhuman]

Escorts are the answer, its only about getting money and betabuxx for them

Based. I’ve realized this too and this is my life plan

 

[Oroborus]

Based. I’ve realized this too and this is my life plan

Least cucked 2022cel

 

[Liptusg]

>Choosing

Stopped reading right there, OP is a pleb who needs to study up on Determinism.

Other than that, OP is an IT infiltrator or just an idiot completely brainwashed by IT and normie pressure, seeing as how he just copy-pasted a bunch of the most generic normie talking points which have been debunked over a 1000000000000000 lines of text for the last 10 years. Muh prostitutes, muh anecdotes, muh not understanding individual neurochemical states, muh 'you must enjoy suffering', I don't even know where to begin.

 

[Mortis]

If you want to have sex just get a prostitute.

Yea sex is nice and all but having to PAY serious bux for LOVELESS sex . I'd never pull myself down to that level

I won't be happy until a woman loves me and wants to have sex with me

 

[doomed 7]

1. agree except that visiting eacorts is a faggot desperate reddit cuck trait

2. rest legit

3. mental illnesses is what made most of us the way we are. miserable, whining and crying online like dogs or begging for attention in a way to forget we are lonely fuckers..

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

Based. I’ve realized this too and this is my life plan

You will gonna realize something else just wait for it.
You will realize that you're an cuck

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

If you want to have sex just get a prostitute.

I don't think sex is all that I want, I don't think this will make me consistently happy in any stable way OP

And inb4 muh it’s not the same bro most of you haven’t even tried it lmfao. I’m not listening to the opinions on escorting from people who have never had sex.

That's like a heroine addict telling me to just try heroine and that I can't judge it until I've tried it.

What's next, I need to try being gay and can't condemn sucking cock as a cope alternative until I've tried it?

I think it's okay to trust my intuition here about what will make me happy OP, it doesn't require literally trying every possible alternative to have a decent idea it won't work for you.

If you want to have love and companionship just get a dog. A dog will probably be more loyal than any foid you might get kek.

Mine just died I need to go through a suitable mourning period.

I'm thinking maybe I'll look into volunteering and cycle through helping some random dozens of various species, I don't feel right opening my heart to any one specific new pet right away.

Life as an incel actually isn’t as bleak and hopeless as you guys make it out to be. I’m actually being happy right now even though I’ve never had a gf.

I find moments of happiness too, but there's still a lot of holes and dark moments.

A girlfriend isn't a cure for all the darkness and there's a lot of non-GF changes I could make to improve my life, I guess?

It seems like a gamble though with hard steps I don't know if I'm stable enough to handle.

If you want to be miserable, I think that’s your choice. Yeah people choose to be miserable.

That's bullshit IMO, you're oversimplifying.
You sound like such a fucking normy foid tbh

You might think it sounds stupid, but the reality is that people dont act solely in self interest. They are also motivated by the desire to prove to themselves that they are free.

Do you mean in the sense of "I won't do something that could make me happy because I don't feel like I'm choosing it over other alternatives others have" ?

If so, yeah I agree that's a thing, but a sense of freedom is important to happiness and I don't know that we necessarily choose that desire for freedom or if it's a need an emotion we unavoidably feel.

Even though the good life is available to you guys, most of you refuse it and make up shitty copes and excuses to justify being unhappy. You should read notes from underground

Not sure why blowing a thousand a month on escorts is somehow "the good life" tbh that sounds like SIMPy suifuel, thinking of this is 'good' is self-deceiving ie cucked

And honestly pretty much everybody here is coping about looks. I’m not denying that looks matter. But most of you guys are 4/10 and not even that ugly.

We could all be 6/10 and this would still doom us due to massive hypergamous ways of late.

Also some of you are 6ft+? Explain how you can be incel.

thinking that 6ft is some kind of guarantee to finding love is pretty silly

could we hypothetically seduce some shrunken 5'0" 88yo granny by LARPing she is still female in any meaningful way to us? I guess, but even if I got my penis to work I would feel like it's too much of a settle

Obviously since we embrace incel validity by rejecting fucking guys we should be able to reject 88yo grannys.

Or I should say "pre-reject" by not pursuing because I'm not exactly getting chased by them.

A lot of times people here will identify with really ugly people and adopt their struggle as their own, even though they mog these people, because they want to feel like it’s over.

It's okay to identify/empathize even if the struggle isn't QUITE as intense...

You may have a pont about "wanting to feel like your prospects are dimmer than they truly are" though.

I think there comes a point when your prospects are so low and it's such a struggle to find happiness that it becomes more tolerable to imagine they're even more dramatically lower, because then you struggle less with hoping and failed attempts.

IE if you are some 5/10 guy who only 1 per 100 of his looksmatches would give him the time of day, it's easier to think of yourself as 3/10 with only a 1 per 100,000 odds with 5/10 girls because then you feel more comfortable giving up on the disappointing struggle?

In reality there are degeees to ugliness. If you are like 4/10 or 3/10 it’s not over

"over" or "involuntary" have always been generalizations (let's call them "rounding to the nearest percentile)

Doesn't mean they speak to some truths here.

If you are 3/10 guy then all your 3/10 looksmatches are getting snapped up by 6/10 guys, the 5/10s are taking the 2/10s and the 4/10s are taking the majority of the 1/10s

Perhaps 1 in 100 of the 1/10 girls might date you, but all the other 3/10 guys are competing for them and have probably already started dating with them.

She being the minority of 1/10 girls with scruples she will then be loyal to her current BF and not date you.

True misery is when you are actually struggling with mental problems. I remember an episode of when I was struggling with OCD and I was smashing a bunch of shit in a fit of rage because I had just spent like 2 hours washing my hands and then they got contaminated again so I had to go through the ritual all over again to make them perfect

I'm not quite that far gone but I struggle with my own kind, like inability to get to sleep, stay asleep, sleep deeply, focus on tasks with annoying noises around me, chronic overheating, joint problems...

And I remember thinking to myself that the pain I was feeling then was so much worse than the pain of loneliness that I would rather be forever alone and not have ocd than to continue suffering with it but have a gf.

a false dilemma since a GF would not tolerate that 2 hours of handwashing shit

as it is I don't htink a GF would even tolerate my desire for her to chew quietly or not clank silverware, women feen entitled to be nuisances and blame you if you're disgusted by their bestial ways

I suspect for most of you guys, inceldom is a lot more volcedom than you care to admit.

The voluntary/involuntary division has always been a false dichotomy, I've been saying that for years but dialed it back a bit because got some warnings from the previous modship.

Basically it is a continuum where you go from high-control guys (chad) whose decisions are mostly voluntary (with minimal involuntary variables and many voluntary opportunities) and low-control guys (us) whose decisions are mostly involuntary (with many involuntary variables, and a small amount of things we can control)

Just admit it that you like to LDAR

The reason people come to that state of wanting to lie down is because their opportunities are too low, they have so little to work with, that the cost-benefit analysis is depressing.

you like to feel like a victim

This part is BS. We don't want to feel like victims, we want to thrive.

The problem is that when we do not thrive, we don't like to be excessively blamed for negative outcomes with that blame ignoring unfair prejudice used against us.

A fair analysis balances both the voluntary and involuntary variables. We just want fair analysis.

you like to be comfy and not have the stress of maintaining a social life and relationships

Yes of course - because the stress of maintaining a social life is much higher for us than for Chad.

You'd be wrng to try and make it seem like Chad is virtuous because he bears the "stress of maintaining a social life" when the stress of doing so for him is so much more low-effort and high-output compared to anything we could achieve.

 

[willystroker]

I think you're right except escorts are cucked and going the comfymax/hedonism route doesn't work for everyone. For many it will get old and the instinct to have a wife and children becomes overbearing so that all they can do is LDAR. Also I noticed a LOT of users here don't even have friends (aside from fucking discord) so no wonder they're so miserable.

And I've a feeling that the world is about to get a lot shittier, in general but especially for single men, to the point that we won't even be able to cope because we'll be worrying about the bare essentials.

 

[nightbane]

Escorts are nasty disease ridden holes that sucked and fucked 100000 smelly dicks I ain’t touching that whore with a ten foot pole let alone stick my dick into it. Only a retarded cucked faggot pays those subhuman foids for subpar sex. That’s throwing your money down the toilet. I’d rather jerk off.

 

[subhuman]

Other than that, OP is an IT infiltrator or just an idiot completely brainwashed by IT and normie pressure, seeing as how he just copy-pasted a bunch of the most generic normie talking points which have been debunked over a 1000000000000000 lines of text for the last 10 years. Muh prostitutes, muh anecdotes, muh not understanding individual neurochemical states, muh 'you must enjoy suffering', I don't even know where to begin.

Just to clarify. I’m not saying the same shit as IT. I’m not saying people here can’t be miserable. I’m saying that despite this place ostensibly being about st blackops2cel looking guys it’s filled with average looking fakecel faggots most of whom never even had a mental illness. I believe these people can easily be happy if they correct their way of thinking because they are choosing to be miserable

And for the truecel guys who don’t choose to be miserable there is hope. I was able to become happy. But I’m not blaming these people for their condition.

 

[SoloAlex]

OP makes threads with the same pathetic content over and over again. You can’t buy female attention.

 

[SoloAlex]

Yeah people choose to be miserable. You might think it sounds stupid

That’s exactly what I was thinking

 

[SoloAlex]

You can.

How ?

 

[SoloAlex]

Escorts.

 

[SoloAlex]

Yeah... let me guess... you want to experience all of the bullshit normie romance stuff that was displayed to you through bluepilled propaganda and media...


You do that... oh wait....

Keep on coping. I see top notch girls throwing their pussies on their normie bf immediately when I leave my house.

You can tell your chad only BS op

 

[Furlossus]

Just fuck std ridden hole and hug a dog theory

 

[persianoldcel]

If you want to have sex just get a prostitute. And inb4 muh it’s not the same bro most of you haven’t even tried it lmfao. I’m not listening to the opinions on escorting from people who have never had sex.

If you want to have love and companionship just get a dog. A dog will probably be more loyal than any foid you might get kek.

Life as an incel actually isn’t as bleak and hopeless as you guys make it out to be. I’m actually being happy right now even though I’ve never had a gf. If you want to be miserable, I think that’s your choice. Yeah people choose to be miserable. You might think it sounds stupid, but the reality is that people dont act solely in self interest. They are also motivated by the desire to prove to themselves that they are free. Even though the good life is available to you guys, most of you refuse it and make up shitty copes and excuses to justify being unhappy. You should read notes from underground

And honestly pretty much everybody here is coping about looks. I’m not denying that looks matter. But most of you guys are 4/10 and not even that ugly. Or some of you guys your only flaw is being ethnic. Like bro I see 4/10s and ethnics with gfs every time I go outside. Also some of you are 6ft+? Explain how you can be incel. A lot of times people here will identify with really ugly people and adopt their struggle as their own, even though they mog these people, because they want to feel like it’s over. In reality there are degeees to ugliness. If you are like 4/10 or 3/10 it’s not over

True misery is when you are actually struggling with mental problems. I remember an episode of when I was struggling with OCD and I was smashing a bunch of shit in a fit of rage because I had just spent like 2 hours washing my hands and then they got contaminated again so I had to go through the ritual all over again to make them perfect And I remember thinking to myself that the pain I was feeling then was so much worse than the pain of loneliness that I would rather be forever alone and not have ocd than to continue suffering with it but have a gf. Thankfully now I have gotten better and it’s much more comfy (even though I’m still struggling with my autism which is why I’m incel) but you guys who have never gone through something similar are just ungrateful.

I suspect for most of you guys, inceldom is a lot more volcedom than you care to admit. Just admit it that you like to LDAR, you like to feel like a victim, and you like to be comfy and not have the stress of maintaining a social life and relationships

I willingly would do pay for prostitution but it's illegal where I live and getting it overseas cost a fortune.I know many fellowcel have access to escorts and prostitutes but it simply doesn't apply for me. I can't seem to find any thing reliable.
I wouldn't be here if I could fuck a prostitute every month.

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

Free will is mostly an illusion, you didn't chose shit, you're playing the field that your genetics and environment created for you.
Eros love can't be bought nor sold, it can be only given.

 

[Pugmalíōn12]

If you want to have sex just get a prostitute. And inb4 muh it’s not the same bro most of you haven’t even tried it lmfao. I’m not listening to the opinions on escorting from people who have never had sex.

If you want to have love and companionship just get a dog. A dog will probably be more loyal than any foid you might get kek.

Life as an incel actually isn’t as bleak and hopeless as you guys make it out to be. I’m actually being happy right now even though I’ve never had a gf. If you want to be miserable, I think that’s your choice. Yeah people choose to be miserable. You might think it sounds stupid, but the reality is that people dont act solely in self interest. They are also motivated by the desire to prove to themselves that they are free. Even though the good life is available to you guys, most of you refuse it and make up shitty copes and excuses to justify being unhappy. You should read notes from underground

And honestly pretty much everybody here is coping about looks. I’m not denying that looks matter. But most of you guys are 4/10 and not even that ugly. Or some of you guys your only flaw is being ethnic. Like bro I see 4/10s and ethnics with gfs every time I go outside. Also some of you are 6ft+? Explain how you can be incel. A lot of times people here will identify with really ugly people and adopt their struggle as their own, even though they mog these people, because they want to feel like it’s over. In reality there are degeees to ugliness. If you are like 4/10 or 3/10 it’s not over

True misery is when you are actually struggling with mental problems. I remember an episode of when I was struggling with OCD and I was smashing a bunch of shit in a fit of rage because I had just spent like 2 hours washing my hands and then they got contaminated again so I had to go through the ritual all over again to make them perfect And I remember thinking to myself that the pain I was feeling then was so much worse than the pain of loneliness that I would rather be forever alone and not have ocd than to continue suffering with it but have a gf. Thankfully now I have gotten better and it’s much more comfy (even though I’m still struggling with my autism which is why I’m incel) but you guys who have never gone through something similar are just ungrateful.

I suspect for most of you guys, inceldom is a lot more volcedom than you care to admit. Just admit it that you like to LDAR, you like to feel like a victim, and you like to be comfy and not have the stress of maintaining a social life and relationships

exactly and if you are causing mayhem to females just for fun like myself life is even better, it feels like your fucking nature in the ass xD

 

[SoloAlex]

Girls will date normies but they only hook-up with Chads

Keep on coping. I see top notch girls throwing their pussies on their normie bf immediately when I leave my house.

You can tell your chad only BS op

 

[subhuman]

I willingly would do pay for prostitution but it's illegal where I live and getting it overseas cost a fortune.I know many fellowcel have access to escorts and prostitutes but it simply doesn't apply for me. I can't seem to find any thing reliable.
I wouldn't be here if I could fuck a prostitute every month.

I'm in the self same spot. Prostitution here is illegal and they all look like dogshit and charge insane amounts of money. I actually went to europe to lose my virginity to escorts. I'm planning on moving there

 

[subhuman]

Free will is mostly an illusion, you didn't chose shit, you're playing the field that your genetics and environment created for you.

Using muh determinism and muh no free will as a way to avoid responsibility is such a cope. Whether or not free will actually exists, it doesn't really matter for practical purposes. Since you are rational, it is as if you were free and you have to be held responsible for your actions. I will explain here:

1. If you believe p on the basis of good reasons, then reasons for believing p explain the belief in some way.
2. If reasons explain the belief, then it cannot be the case that material conditions are sufficient to explain the belief.
3. If material conditions are not sufficient for the formation of the belief, then one could have believed otherwise.
4. Therefore, if one believes p on the basis of reasons, then one could have believed otherwise.
5. If one could have believed otherwise, then one is free.
6. Therefore, if you believe p on the basis of reasons, then you are free.

 

[SoloAlex]

@SoloAlex are you a normie tier male?

3.5/10

 

[jerkjocky]

tl;dr
gigacope artistry

 

[Incline]

yes im planning on fucking escorts if i wont be able to ascend after my looksmaxx episode of my life is complete

but rest is kind of cope

its big copium to try to delude urself to think ur life is better with escorts etc etc

 

[El Enemigo]

I was liking your post until I started reading the fourth paragraph.

 

[subhuman]

its big copium to try to delude urself to think ur life is better with escorts etc etc

yeah mine is. i like sex

 

[HateCurry]

"And honestly pretty much everybody here is coping about looks. I’m not denying that looks matter. But most of you guys are 4/10 and not even that ugly. Or some of you guys your only flaw is being ethnic. Like bro I see 4/10s and ethnics with gfs every time I go outside. Also some of you are 6ft+? Explain how you can be incel. A lot of times people here will identify with really ugly people and adopt their struggle as their own, even though they mog these people, because they want to feel like it’s over. In reality there are degeees to ugliness. If you are like 4/10 or 3/10 it’s not over "

There are people who call themselves incel as on this site and describe themselves as 6ft plus and white, that's true, but the levels of ugliness is just a cope, it is over, especially in today's feminist world.

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

Kinda agreed

People here are idiots

 

[Dregster]

Yeah... let me guess... you want to experience all of the bullshit normie romance stuff that was displayed to you through bluepilled propaganda and media...


You do that... oh wait....

Of course he does, he's had it before, so by his logic, why would he pay for something he had for free ?