SuicideFuel Most Men Will Never Experience Taking A Woman's Virginity (Something That Decades Ago Most Men Did & Looked Forward To A Lot)

[BlkPillPres]

When you think about it, its really fucked up that something that was a norm for BASICALLY EVERY FUCKING MAN ON THE PLANET (70 or so years ago), is now this rare thing reserved only to a few men. There's a small percentage of men fucking all of the virgins and the rest of us just get to fuck them after "all the magic is gone". A rare and exciting experience STOLEN from all of us

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere). There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

One thing I would be willing to pay $500 or even $1000 for, is to fuck a virgin, because it is such a rare and unlikely experience these days, that you can just "write it off" as paying for a "once in a lifetime" experience. Most men in the far past only ever experienced it once in their life anyways



I would much rather pay the amount it required to have a threesome to instead fuck a virgin (I don't get the whole threesome obsession thing, you will never get your moneys worth out of each woman because they distribute the labor while you pay the entire cost)

Sex with a non-virgin woman is enjoyable but it won't really come close to the experience of having sex with a virgin:

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:
The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin
The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her
The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks "this is going inside of me?"
The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen
The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure
Etc, etc, etc

You get to experience all of this unfolding right before your eyes, LIKE ART IN MOTION

This is an experience that I'm sure is life changing to men because it satisfies something so core to every man's innate desires

This is why I still want to "Islammaxx" one day, in fact I'm sure I will do this, because I want to experience this for myself



If the virgin you had sex with is your wife then your enjoyment only goes further from there, things only get better, because you watch her over time transition from innocence and inexperience, to being YOUR woman

She becomes less passive and more active
She begins to shyly initiate sex acts rather than wait for you to initiate
As time goes on she becomes less shy and more direct, as she becomes comfortable with herself sexually and being with you
She's getting better over time and you can tell

So even if the arousing "innocence" aspect of sex is gone it naturally transitions over into something else that is just as arousing (if not more arousing) for men, sexual dominance

There's this inherent dominance to the entire process, its like you are "training" her to be your perfect "pet" lol, because her entire sexuality revolves around and is developed around your sexual tastes, and over time she starts to form her own tastes and you reciprocate

These are experiences that an average man 70 years ago could experience, but most average men today will never experience this

THAT DYNAMIC NO LONGER EXISTS IN MARRIAGE

MARRIAGE IS POINTLESS UNLESS ITS TO A VIRGIN

This is exactly why the more past sexual partners a woman has the less likely a marriage will last long term (this is a statistical fact)
Source is from "Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women" bv Jay Teachman

Women bond to other men that they have sex with, and they bond even more strongly with the man who took their virginity. There are many biological reasons for this including Oxytocin ("the love hormone") which women have more of than men

Sex-Related Differences in Plasma Oxytocin Levels in Humans

When I speak to average men (IRL) they all pretty much have the same mindset - "I "love" my girl, but you still can't trust these hoes"

TBH most men are pretty "bitter" when it comes to women and how they have affected the dating and marriage market, they won't publicly say these things but if alone with another man they are very open and honest

Women are something that men merely tolerate these days because of their sexual urges, the "magic" is gone and we all know it

Men for the most part I think on a deep level hate the fact that the innocence aspect was taken out of sex and relationships due to women's choices. It takes away from the bonding for men (and women), you don't have the same level of "reverence" or "appreciation" for women because "the magic is gone". Men today don't really trust women or care that much for women really, its more like a "this is the best I can get" kind of thing, so men take what they can get and try to accept this reality

I believe a lot of men engage in "rough sex" these days as some kind of mental substitute to compensate for the lack of dominance they would have usually experienced in the past. They have to compensate for the innate dominance that is experienced when you "train" a woman to be yours and see her sexual behaviors express that "training". The fact that virgin women no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

I don't think "violent porn" is what makes men "sexually violent", this is the usual rhetoric put forth by feminists and all media and I think the order is reversed. I think the demand came way before the supply, men became sexually violent after changes to the dating and marriage market as some kind of psychological adaptation, and porn was created to meet men's changes in taste

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experienced had they had sex with and married a virgin.

The experience of "feeling like a man" and "feeling dominant" is PASSIVE to a man who married a virgin, he doesn't need to ACTIVELY do anything to derive that mental satisfaction. You just wake up in the morning next to her and you know that she is yours, and you'd just feel amazing and that would set the mood for the day, you'd go to work productive and come back home to your wife eager to see her

I'd bet my life that male productivity in the work place has gone down over decades and will continue to go down. Having a "loving wife" at home is core to men wanting to "work hard" and contribute to society, women who get married as virgins are more easily satisfied and respect their men more (means better treatment and satisfaction by both parties). This is another reason why the west is going to collapse, men no longer care about society because there's no real reason to care anymore

 

[Languishingrn]

Thanks for the suicide fuel. I wanted to loose my V-card to another virgin but that's unrealistic. I'll keep trying ig

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere). There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

Yeah go to eastern europe, It's cheap as shit and you can rent Airbnb for like 40$ a night in Ukraine. Just make sure you don't get fucked with the currency exchange. Also wear a condom ofc.

Oxytocin ("the love hormone") which women have more of than men

I probably have no Oxytocin because people never voluntarily make contact with me. I'm so fucking alone man.

Men today don't really trust women or care that much for women really, its more like a "this is the best I can get" kind of thing, so men take what they can get and try to accept this reality

Yeah my normie acquaintances get girlfriends but it only lasts a month or two max. Most of them just run JBW game with ethnic women.

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experience had they had sex with and married a virgin.

This might be one of the most brutal blackpills I've ever read. God I wish society would stop being so overtly sexual.

 

[Wizchan]

you can't pay prostitutes for a virgin gf experience

 

[Incelius Savage]

couldn't have said it better myself

 

[Fat Link]

I certify this a great post by blkpillpress nobody should have a problem with.

It is just pure facts with no nigger narcissism thrown in.

This is when he’s at his very best people.

 

[WarriorScholar]

When you think about it, its really fucked up that something that was literally a norm for BASICALLY EVERY FUCKING MAN ON THE PLANET (70 or so years ago), is now this rare thing reserved only to a few men. There's a small percentage of men fucking all of the virgins and the rest of us just get to fuck them after "all the magic is gone". A rare and exciting experience STOLEN from all of us

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere). There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

One thing I would be willing to pay $500 or even $1000 for, is to fuck a virgin, because it is such a rare and unlikely experience these days, that you can just "write it off" as paying for a "once in a lifetime" experience. Most men in the far past only ever experienced it once in their life anyways



I would much rather pay the amount it required to have a threesome to instead fuck a virgin (I don't get the whole threesome obsession thing, you will never get your moneys worth out of each woman because they distribute the labor while you pay the entire cost)

Sex with a non-virgin woman is enjoyable but it won't really come close to the experience of having sex with a virgin:

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:
The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin
The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her
The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks (this is going inside of me?)
The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen
The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure
Etc, etc, etc

You get to experience all of this unfolding right before your eyes, LIKE ART IN MOTION

This is an experience that I'm sure is life changing to men because it satisfies something so core to every man's innate desires

This is why I still want to "Islammaxx" one day, in fact I'm sure I will do this, because I want to experience this for myself



If the virgin you had sex with is your wife then your enjoyment only goes further from there, things only get better, because you watch her over time transition from innocence and inexperience, to being YOUR woman

She becomes less passive and more active
She begins to shyly initiate sex acts rather than wait for you to initiate
As time goes on she becomes less shy and more direct, as she becomes comfortable with herself sexually and being with you
She's getting better over time and you can tell

So even if the arousing "innocence" aspect of sex is gone it naturally transitions over into something else that is just as arousing (if not more arousing) for men, sexual dominance

There's this inherent dominance to the entire process, its like you are "training" her to be your perfect "pet" lol, because her entire sexuality revolves around and is developed around your sexual tastes, and over time she starts to form her own tastes and you reciprocate

These are experiences that an average man 70 years ago could experience, but most average men today will never experience this

THAT DYNAMIC NO LONGER EXISTS IN MARRIAGE

MARRIAGE IS POINTLESS UNLESS ITS TO A VIRGIN

This is exactly why the more past sexual partners a woman has the less likely a marriage will last long term (this is a statistical fact)
Source is from "Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women" bv Jay Teachman

Women bond to other men that they have sex with, and they bond even more strongly with the man who took their virginity. There are many biological reasons for this including Oxytocin ("the love hormone") which women have more of than men

Sex-Related Differences in Plasma Oxytocin Levels in Humans

When I speak to average men (IRL) they all pretty much have the same mindset - "I "love" my girl, but you still can't trust these hoes"

TBH most men are pretty "bitter" when it comes to women and how they have affected the dating and marriage market, they won't publicly say these things but if alone with another man they are very open and honest

Women are something that men merely tolerate these days because of their sexual urges, the "magic" is gone and we all know it

Men for the most part I think on a deep level hate the fact that the innocence aspect was taken out of sex and relationships due to women's choices. It takes away from the bonding for men (and women), you don't have the same level of "reverence" or "appreciation" for women because "the magic is gone". Men today don't really trust women or care that much for women really, its more like a "this is the best I can get" kind of thing, so men take what they can get and try to accept this reality

I believe a lot of men engage in "rough sex" these days as some kind of mental substitute to compensate for the lack of dominance they would have usually experienced in the past. They have to compensate for the innate dominance that is experienced when you "train" a woman to be yours and see her sexual behaviors express that "training". The fact that virgins no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

I don't think "violent porn" is what makes men "sexually violent" these days, this is the usual rhetoric put forth by feminists and all media and I think the order is reversed. I think the demand came way before the supply, men became sexually violent and porn was created to meet men's changes in taste

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experienced had they had sex with and married a virgin.

The experience of "feeling like a man" and "feeling dominant" is PASSIVE to a man who married a virgin, he doesn't need to ACTIVELY do anything to derive that mental satisfaction. You just wake up in the morning next to her and you know that she is yours, and you'd just feel amazing and that would set the mood for the day, you'd go to work productive and come back home to your wife

I'd bet my life that male productivity in the work place has gone down over decades and will continue to go down, having a "loving wife" at home is core to men wanting to "work hard" and contribute to society. This is another reason why the west is going to collapse, men no longer care about society because there's no real reason to care anymore

I actually agree with you here. But that's why I don't support escortceling, it just furthers the problem by supporting degeneracy, and it isn't remotely as fulfilling as a man to fuck a whore who slept with more men then they can count, than to be with a woman who offered themselves to you knowing and allowing you to engage in the irreversible act of virginity claiming that will follow her for the rest of her life.

The two things are like heaven and earth.

 

[HiroshakiCel]

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:

Only happens if you are big, I've read stories of men taking their gf's virginity, disappointing faces and experience if you are not the top 20% of size. This is CHAD ONLY too.

Either way, Underrated topic: great post tbh.

 

[Netzachcel]

I want a virgin foid too but it would feel weird to have blood in your dick.

 

[Toxic_Manbabby]

I want a virgin foid too but it would feel weird to have blood in your dick.

You mean on your dick right; because you kinda need blood in your dick in order to get a boner.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Only happens if you are big, I've read stories of men taking their gf's virginity, disappointing faces and experience if you are not the top 20% of size. This is CHAD ONLY too.

"I read a story that I can't even verify is true or false bro"

Sorry, I'll take actual studies about marriage rates and reported "happiness" rather than your meme anecdotes which can't even be verified

A virgin woman doesn't know the difference between an 8 incher and a 5 incher, if you can make her orgasm (even if its just through clitoral stimulation) and she has no reference to other men's sexual prowess, she will bond with you. Whether she'll go out and cheat to "experience more" is based on the society she lives in, men and women are only as loyal as their options, that's the reality of being a human

This is why I said I would Islammaxx, the society you get married within is also important, Christianity is no longer a religion, its no longer a dominating force that imposes social order, so it may not matter if your wife is a virgin or not if you live in the west, not because "you aren't enough", but because "women always want more"

A woman might think you are "great in bed" but women are insatiable, they don't have any limits, they always want more, this is why they weren't supposed to be able to work, own property and vote. Women just want the best of what is available, and by granting women those rights and privileges men raised the threshold for what constitutes the "best of what is available"

I want a virgin foid too but it would feel weird to have blood in your dick.

The fact that you'd consider this weird is the sad part, because this is something that should be a normal experience for a man. But its so foreign to most men that we'd look at it this way

It was a norm in the past to inspect for blood on the bed sheets on your wedding night to confirm a woman's virginity, and if you go back far enough in some cultures the women would proudly hang up the sheets in some kind of ceremony the next day to show that they consummated their marriage and their sexuality with their husband

Were living in a fucking bizzaro world, were in the twilight zone lol

You mean on your dick right; because you kinda need blood in your dick in order to get a boner.

Blood plays a huge role in sex and reproduction

Ironically during sex men are literally ploughing women with a meat stick engorged with blood , but they get so "squeamish" when it comes to women bleeding, out of sight out of mind I guess

 

[Netzachcel]

You mean on your dick right; because you kinda need blood in your dick in order to get a boner.

another reminder that my engrish sucks and my brain is fucking dying

 

[Incelius Savage]

I want a virgin foid too but it would feel weird to have blood in your dick.

that's why u take it out and make her suck it all off and then make her spit it all in your mouth.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

When you think about it, its really fucked up that something that was a norm for BASICALLY EVERY FUCKING MAN ON THE PLANET (70 or so years ago), is now this rare thing reserved only to a few men. There's a small percentage of men fucking all of the virgins and the rest of us just get to fuck them after "all the magic is gone". A rare and exciting experience STOLEN from all of us

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere). There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

One thing I would be willing to pay $500 or even $1000 for, is to fuck a virgin, because it is such a rare and unlikely experience these days, that you can just "write it off" as paying for a "once in a lifetime" experience. Most men in the far past only ever experienced it once in their life anyways



I would much rather pay the amount it required to have a threesome to instead fuck a virgin (I don't get the whole threesome obsession thing, you will never get your moneys worth out of each woman because they distribute the labor while you pay the entire cost)

Sex with a non-virgin woman is enjoyable but it won't really come close to the experience of having sex with a virgin:

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:
The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin
The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her
The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks "this is going inside of me?"
The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen
The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure
Etc, etc, etc

You get to experience all of this unfolding right before your eyes, LIKE ART IN MOTION

This is an experience that I'm sure is life changing to men because it satisfies something so core to every man's innate desires

This is why I still want to "Islammaxx" one day, in fact I'm sure I will do this, because I want to experience this for myself



If the virgin you had sex with is your wife then your enjoyment only goes further from there, things only get better, because you watch her over time transition from innocence and inexperience, to being YOUR woman

She becomes less passive and more active
She begins to shyly initiate sex acts rather than wait for you to initiate
As time goes on she becomes less shy and more direct, as she becomes comfortable with herself sexually and being with you
She's getting better over time and you can tell

So even if the arousing "innocence" aspect of sex is gone it naturally transitions over into something else that is just as arousing (if not more arousing) for men, sexual dominance

There's this inherent dominance to the entire process, its like you are "training" her to be your perfect "pet" lol, because her entire sexuality revolves around and is developed around your sexual tastes, and over time she starts to form her own tastes and you reciprocate

These are experiences that an average man 70 years ago could experience, but most average men today will never experience this

THAT DYNAMIC NO LONGER EXISTS IN MARRIAGE

MARRIAGE IS POINTLESS UNLESS ITS TO A VIRGIN

This is exactly why the more past sexual partners a woman has the less likely a marriage will last long term (this is a statistical fact)
Source is from "Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women" bv Jay Teachman

Women bond to other men that they have sex with, and they bond even more strongly with the man who took their virginity. There are many biological reasons for this including Oxytocin ("the love hormone") which women have more of than men

Sex-Related Differences in Plasma Oxytocin Levels in Humans

When I speak to average men (IRL) they all pretty much have the same mindset - "I "love" my girl, but you still can't trust these hoes"

TBH most men are pretty "bitter" when it comes to women and how they have affected the dating and marriage market, they won't publicly say these things but if alone with another man they are very open and honest

Women are something that men merely tolerate these days because of their sexual urges, the "magic" is gone and we all know it

Men for the most part I think on a deep level hate the fact that the innocence aspect was taken out of sex and relationships due to women's choices. It takes away from the bonding for men (and women), you don't have the same level of "reverence" or "appreciation" for women because "the magic is gone". Men today don't really trust women or care that much for women really, its more like a "this is the best I can get" kind of thing, so men take what they can get and try to accept this reality

I believe a lot of men engage in "rough sex" these days as some kind of mental substitute to compensate for the lack of dominance they would have usually experienced in the past. They have to compensate for the innate dominance that is experienced when you "train" a woman to be yours and see her sexual behaviors express that "training". The fact that virgin women no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

I don't think "violent porn" is what makes men "sexually violent", this is the usual rhetoric put forth by feminists and all media and I think the order is reversed. I think the demand came way before the supply, men became sexually violent after changes to the dating and marriage market as some kind of psychological adaptation, and porn was created to meet men's changes in taste

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experienced had they had sex with and married a virgin.

The experience of "feeling like a man" and "feeling dominant" is PASSIVE to a man who married a virgin, he doesn't need to ACTIVELY do anything to derive that mental satisfaction. You just wake up in the morning next to her and you know that she is yours, and you'd just feel amazing and that would set the mood for the day, you'd go to work productive and come back home to your wife eager to see her

I'd bet my life that male productivity in the work place has gone down over decades and will continue to go down. Having a "loving wife" at home is core to men wanting to "work hard" and contribute to society, women who get married as virgins are more easily satisfied and respect their men more (means better treatment and satisfaction by both parties). This is another reason why the west is going to collapse, men no longer care about society because there's no real reason to care anymore

The fact I’ll never get with a virgin like me makes me not even want to ascend at all, but ascending with a woman who had another as her first is cucked.

 

[IsolationHurts]

I Will Never Understand Why You Capitalize Every Word In Your Titles

 

[BlkPillPres]

But that's why I don't support escortceling, it just furthers the problem by supporting degeneracy

That's not how reality works, nobody can "further" anything when they aren't the main contributor

A lot of guys keep bringing this up so I think its time I address it:

[Hard To Swallow Edition] To Incels Who Request Others To Not "Support/Further Degeneracy" (Prostitution), You Need To Understand How A Boycott Works | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

This is a common thing I see many incels say, that they "won't support degeneracy" or they "won't further degeneracy" or they "won't take part in degeneracy", and it just shows that they are having a knee jerk reaction to reality rather than thinking things through A lot of you guys don't...

incels.is

I Will Never Understand Why You Capitalize Every Word In Your Titles

Its obvious if you really look at it

It looks neater and more uniformed that way, a title written in "sentence casing" just looks like something random and unimportant, there is a "different feel" to seeing a uniformed and structured title

 

[dirtykombatcel]

I Will Never Understand Why You Capitalize Every Word In Your Titles

 

[SocialzERo]

To young fakecels here: Date non-virgins, leave them after few months, don't be standardcels, you won't marry them anyway

 

[Lonelycel]

Possibly your best thread yet

 

[AmnesiaHazecel]

imagine betabuxxing for a post-wall roastie

 

[copetillirope]

Top tier post. One thing is missing and that is the fact that women hold DNA from every guy they slept with even after decades.
Also, men don't enjoy hardcore sex as much as women. Men and women are attracted to the opposite. Men prefer gentel and feminine submissive women. Everything they told you is the opposite. Most non sex haver men prefer soft porn. Women on the other hand....

 

[Wizard32]

Most Men Will Never Experience Taking A Woman's Virginity​

probably 100% of men at this point because "woman's virginity" is like a non-existent oxymoron since foids pretty much universally fuck by the time they're mid-pubescent teenage girls before they finish puberty and become fully-sized adult women

all the chads who take foids' virgnities have taken them in early teens tbh

yes there's some theoretical rare exceptions but they're not even provable

that was a norm for BASICALLY EVERY FUCKING MAN ON THE PLANET (70 or so years ago)

It was never like that.

Did it happen more often in the past? Sure.

But I expect <50% of men got to take foid virginity no matter how far back in history you look.

Probably <10% tbh

is now this rare thing reserved only to a few men

It's rarer now than it used to be but I think it's always been rare.

There's a small percentage of men fucking all of the virgins and the rest of us just get to fuck them after "all the magic is gone". A rare and exciting experience STOLEN from all of us

I don't know if we can say it's stolen if we never actually had it.

Recent trends probably mean something like a shift from 10% of men getting to deflower a virgin to 1% of men.
Likely always a minority, not just a more dramatic minority.

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere).

Except you can't get it anywhere, not without paying.

Like in theory I could buy a car anywhere, but cars are high in demand so obviously pricey, even to rent.

Probably costs less to grow a foid than to build a car.

There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

Except that Brazil is probably a more dangerous place to live and you have to take into account plane fees back and forth unless you're settling down there long term.

One thing I would be willing to pay $500 or even $1000 for, is to fuck a virgin, because it is such a rare and unlikely experience these days, that you can just "write it off" as paying for a "once in a lifetime" experience. Most men in the far past only ever experienced it once in their life anyways

I think when that gets auctioned off (how do you even verify?) it tends to go for 10k-50k

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:
The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin

I think you could diminish that if you really gradually worked up to sex like doing oral/digital first. That's the responsible way but if a foid would look down on you as being degen/unmasculine for that then I understand why a lot of guys just rush to dick.

The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her

I guess this would apply even if she weren't especially attractive to her as a sub-chad husband

The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks "this is going inside of me?"

would small-dicked husbands of past actually get to experience that?

girls afraid of big dicks might get an expression of relief (no pain) or disappointment (no pleasure) from tiny dicks

The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen

what if it's more than a wince?

also in my fantasy I don't insta-break the hymen I just grind it for hours each day until it stretches enough inches to allow me to go balls deep

that way the hymen catches my cum and reduces chances of pregnancy

The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure
Etc, etc, etc

You get to experience all of this unfolding right before your eyes, LIKE ART IN MOTION

This is an experience that I'm sure is life changing to men because it satisfies something so core to every man's innate desires

This is why I still want to "Islammaxx" one day, in fact I'm sure I will do this, because I want to experience this for myself

This is why I read loli hentai mangas because artists often put a lot of thought and attention into immersing reader in that experience. Nothing really approaches it.

If the virgin you had sex with is your wife then your enjoyment only goes further from there, things only get better, because you watch her over time transition from innocence and inexperience, to being YOUR woman

She becomes less passive and more active

ie the "leg lock" or "pelvic thrust"

She begins to shyly initiate sex acts rather than wait for you to initiate
As time goes on she becomes less shy and more direct, as she becomes comfortable with herself sexually and being with you
She's getting better over time and you can tell

So even if the arousing "innocence" aspect of sex is gone it naturally transitions over into something else that is just as arousing (if not more arousing) for men, sexual dominance

you mean woman dominating you?
I guess that happens if you pair bond and she wants your cock

There's this inherent dominance to the entire process, its like you are "training" her to be your perfect "pet" lol, because her entire sexuality revolves around and is developed around your sexual tastes, and over time she starts to form her own tastes and you reciprocate

It's matter of perspective: you could also see this as her training you.

I've no doubt that if you have a horny GF constantly pleasing you eagerly that you will get oneitis for her and tastes specific to her.

Chad may stray because he knew his options from the outset but if we had attentions for a girl we'd fuckin worship her

These are experiences that an average man 70 years ago could experience, but most average men today will never experience this

70 years ago was 1950
I sincerely doubt that most wives lost their virginities to their husbands even then.
It was obviously more of a taboo but I think that just means more effort was put into covering up premarital trysts.

THAT DYNAMIC NO LONGER EXISTS IN MARRIAGE
MARRIAGE IS POINTLESS UNLESS ITS TO A VIRGIN

It was never ever guaranteed to exist.
Clearly since you never know if that virginity exists, marriage has a purpose in establishing social connections regardless of what the truth is.

Women bond to other men that they have sex with, and they bond even more strongly with the man who took their virginity.

i think this is multifaceted, like:

1) bond to whoever ruptured my hymen
2) bond to whoever ejaculated inside me
3) bond to whoever made me orgasm

lesbians could check 1+3 via strapons but not 2 since they can't cum

When I speak to average men (IRL) they all pretty much have the same mindset - "I "love" my girl, but you still can't trust these hoes"

Gigachad doesn't have this mindset because he knows few men will be a competetive enough alternative to him to make a foid stray.

It's only us who has this suspicion since we know they will stray to gigachad.

Foids are probably insecure about this too, Becky is paranoid about being cheated on w/ Stacy.

It's just much less because the chance of stacy giving her BF the time of day is reduced.

TBH most men are pretty "bitter" when it comes to women and how they have affected the dating and marriage market, they won't publicly say these things but if alone with another man they are very open and honest

Moreso when we had male-only spaces, homosocializing and trust.

There's so much competetition/backstabbing by potential orbiters I don't think we're as open about our insecurities now.

Women are something that men merely tolerate these days because of their sexual urges, the "magic" is gone and we all know it

magic still exists in 2Dland

Men for the most part I think on a deep level hate the fact that the innocence aspect was taken out of sex and relationships due to women's choices.

Also men's choices: we also choose to embrace the culture of plural partners and orbit non-virgin women.

Hell, I'd fuck non-virgin women and be her BF too so it's partly my fault the innocence is gone.

If I'm not part of the current problem I'm still part of the problem for the next generation.

I believe a lot of men engage in "rough sex" these days as some kind of mental substitute to compensate for the lack of dominance they would have usually experienced in the past. They have to compensate for the innate dominance that is experienced when you "train" a woman to be yours and see her sexual behaviors express that "training". The fact that virgin women no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

That might be part of it, but I think a stronger explanation is circumcision. If we had foreskins we could be more gentle lovers because of the higher stimulation.

I don't think "violent porn" is what makes men "sexually violent", this is the usual rhetoric put forth by feminists and all media and I think the order is reversed. I think the demand came way before the supply, men became sexually violent after changes to the dating and marriage market as some kind of psychological adaptation, and porn was created to meet men's changes in taste

A 3rd contributor could be toxic masculinity which both men and women feed into.

It's "effeminate" or "gay" to want to have gentle slow sensual fucks in a committed relationship with your GF, a REAL man wants to "pound that pussy" to show how POWERFUL he is, and how he DGAF and can DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. etc

There are enough women who embrace that kind of attitude/behavior that obviously even for men not inherently sociopathic to want that type of thing, we emulate that mindset (maybe even transform into it) to fulfill our desire to have a partner.

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experienced had they had sex with and married a virgin.

It's not purely about dominance though: after all if you are "triple penetrating" with two other guys' dicks in the foid, how "dominant" is that really?
Even if you collectively get 100% of her attention you're splitting that 3 ways so you only get 33% of her attention: you'd be better off fucking a half-interested girl solo.
At that point if you're not actually interested in the foids' pleasure (one possible reason for doing threesomes/foursomes with other men) and it's not about being gay then it'd have to be about female degradatation, ie the toxic masculinity aforementioned.

The experience of "feeling like a man" and "feeling dominant" is PASSIVE to a man who married a virgin, he doesn't need to ACTIVELY do anything to derive that mental satisfaction. You just wake up in the morning next to her and you know that she is yours, and you'd just feel amazing and that would set the mood for the day, you'd go to work productive and come back home to your wife eager to see her

I don't even know if that's really about manliness: I think it's just being gynephilic and wanting to feel important to someone you're attracted to.
I bet lesbians w/ committed GFs feel this way too without thinking of it as "manly".
They're just "fulfilled".

Women probably feel that way about their BFs/husbands if they seem dedicated, as well.
I think it's less about gender affirmation and just about humanity affirmation.

I'd bet my life that male productivity in the work place has gone down over decades and will continue to go down. Having a "loving wife" at home is core to men wanting to "work hard" and contribute to society, women who get married as virgins are more easily satisfied and respect their men more (means better treatment and satisfaction by both parties). This is another reason why the west is going to collapse, men no longer care about society because there's no real reason to care anymore

having a fulfilling home life is definitely important
you wouldn't care much about working hard if no matter how hard you work you can't buy basic things you need like quiet, or if you have that, romance to fill the quiet

Only happens if you are big, I've read stories of men taking their gf's virginity, disappointing faces and experience if you are not the top 20% of size. This is CHAD ONLY too.

I wonder how much of that has to do with modern culture and easy access to porn.

Like centuries ago when fewer girls had seen adult dicks and it was impolite to talk about them then maybe fewer of them had such high expectations and could feel more satified by a 4-5 incher.

You mean on your dick right; because you kinda need blood in your dick in order to get a boner.

maybe he means like if you rupture the hymen it wouldn't just get on the external glans but a tiny bit would go up your urethra?

wouldn't seem like a big deal you'd prob just ejaculate out the blood, or if you didn't coom it would clear out next time you piss

It was a norm in the past to inspect for blood on the bed sheets on your wedding night to confirm a woman's virginity, and if you go back far enough in some cultures the women would proudly hang up the sheets in some kind of ceremony the next day to show that they consummated their marriage and their sexuality with their husband

I always felt like this was a scam. There's so many period peaces where non-virgin women will just bring a tiny container of sheep's blood to toss on the sheets to scam this.

You could even jam some sheep's blood up in your pussy (maybe put it on a rag so it gets squeezed out by the penis and doesn't seep out right away?) so you don't even have to bring a container.

Even in modern day with DNA tests you could prob do some shit like cut the inside of your pussy with a razor so the scab tears and you bleed when he fucks you.

ascending with a woman who had another as her first is cucked

No, it isn't, not unless you were deceived, such as thinking it was her first time when it wasn't.

If you are fully informed it can never be cucked: deception is required to "cuck".

Otherwise you can just call it 'soy' or 'biddy' if you know you're settling for 2nds or other non-ideal scenarios.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Top tier post. One thing is missing and that is the fact that women hold DNA from every guy they slept with even after decades.

That's actually not true though, this a study that gets thrown around that is completely false, because other studies have been done that shown preteen girls also have male microchimerism, and the change of them having it goes up if they have an older brother

In other words the male cells come from pregnancy which allows for males cells to get past the "blood to brain barrier"

So a woman having a "male pregnancy" will have these cells stored in her (even if she never gives birth and carries the pregnancy to term)
A male twin absorbed by his sister in the womb will result in the sister having male microchimerism
Etc

Its always related to pregnancy involving a male, that's what allows the cells to make its way to women's brains and be stored, and then it can make it to an older brothers sister because for some reason that shit gets transferred over too lol

The vagina is literally designed to kill off sperm cells, look it up, sperm will not survive long in the lining of the vagina, only sperm that makes it to the womb survives and even then its a race to the egg and only one sperm survives

We can't make the mistake of peddling pseudo science, they already want to go out of their way to deny the black pill

We have so many stats and studies that make women look bad enough, there's no reason for us to make shit up

Also, men don't enjoy hardcore sex as much as women.

That was kind of my point, men are doing it today as an outlet for lack of feeling dominant in a relationship

Men prefer gentel and feminine submissive women.

Yes because submission is arousing to men, but women today don't submit in relationships, so the bedroom becomes the outlet. Porn makers would not be making porn like this if it wasn't selling more than "soft" porn. Even men who have sex use this kind of porn as an outlet for the reasons I just said

Most non sex haver men prefer soft porn

It always starts off that way but as time goes on that level of stimuli is never enough because what you really want is to have sex yourself, so men seek out porn that is more "visceral"

Very few men watch "soft" porn and keep watching that forever, they always transition to more hardcore stuff, especially since your hatred for women increases over the years as you think about the fact that you are only doing this because women keep rejecting you

Porn is simultaneously your outlet to sexual frustration and your reminder of why you are sexually frustrated, which sexually frustrates you lol (its a negative feedback loop)

 

[Sportbro]

Top tier post. One thing is missing and that is the fact that women hold DNA from every guy they slept with even after decades.
Also, men don't enjoy hardcore sex as much as women. Men and women are attracted to the opposite. Men prefer gentel and feminine submissive women. Everything they told you is the opposite. Most non sex haver men prefer soft porn. Women on the other hand....

I have seen the exact study about women retaining DNA you are referring to is about female flies,not humans.
DNA fucking dies or the body rejects it,doesnt matter if its hair,spit,sperm or whatever
But fucking GIGA brainlets took it at face value, including this forum

 

[lifeisbullshit95]

It's over for @BlkPillPres cel

 

[BITG]

"I read a story that I can't even verify is true or false bro"

Sorry, I'll take actual studies about marriage rates and reported "happiness" rather than your meme anecdotes which can't even be verified

A virgin woman doesn't know the difference between an 8 incher and a 5 incher, if you can make her orgasm (even if its just through clitoral stimulation) and she has no reference to other men's sexual prowess, she will bond with you. Whether she'll go out and cheat to "experience more" is based on the society she lives in, men and women are only as loyal as their options, that's the reality of being a human

This is why I said I would Islammaxx, the society you get married within is also important, Christianity is no longer a religion, its no longer a dominating force that imposes social order, so it may not matter if your wife is a virgin or not if you live in the west, not because "you aren't enough", but because "women always want more"

A woman might think you are "great in bed" but women are insatiable, they don't have any limits, they always want more, this is why they weren't supposed to be able to work, own property and vote. Women just want the best of what is available, and by granting women those rights and privileges men raised the threshold for what constitutes the "best of what is available"



The fact that you'd consider this weird is the sad part, because this is something that should be a normal experience for a man. But its so foreign to most men that we'd look at it this way

It was a norm in the past to inspect for blood on the bed sheets on your wedding night to confirm a woman's virginity, and if you go back far enough in some cultures the women would proudly hang up the sheets in some kind of ceremony the next day to show that they consummated their marriage and their sexuality with their husband

Were living in a fucking bizzaro world, were in the twilight zone lol



Blood plays a huge role in sex and reproduction

Ironically during sex men are literally ploughing women with a meat stick engorged with blood , but they get so "squeamish" when it comes to women bleeding, out of sight out of mind I guess

“We’er in the twilight zone”

 

[Wizard32]

I have seen the exact study about women retaining DNA you are referring to is about female flies,not humans.
DNA fucking dies or the body rejects it,doesnt matter if its hair,spit,sperm or whatever
But fucking GIGA brainlets took it at face value, including this forum

Fetal microchimerism and maternal health during and after pregnancy

Fetal microchimerism in humans seems as frequent as in animal studies and may even be always present. This was confirmed by a report of male presumed-fetal cells found in bone marrow and bone

Yeah there's some fly studies we cite but it's not purely flies

That's actually not true though, this a study that gets thrown around that is completely false, because other studies have been done that shown preteen girls also have male microchimerism, and the change of them having it goes up if they have an older brother

In other words the male cells come from pregnancy which allows for males cells to get past the "blood to brain barrier"

So a woman having a "male pregnancy" will have these cells stored in her (even if she never gives birth and carries the pregnancy to term)
A male twin absorbed by his sister in the womb will result in the sister having male microchimerism
Etc

That only shows that preceding male pregnancies is one possible explanation for male DNA in a little girl (IE don't automatically assume she is a male virgin)
Obviously means the most heterosexual wife choice is a girl who has no male elder siblings.

Its always related to pregnancy involving a male, that's what allows the cells to make its way to women's brains and be stored, and then it can make it to an older brothers sister because for some reason that shit gets transferred over too lol

Can you actually prove that?

Male microchimerism in women without sons: quantitative assessment and correlation with pregnancy history - PubMed

Male microchimerism was not infrequent in women without sons. Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse. Male...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Women were categorized into 4 groups according to pregnancy history.
Group A had only daughters (n = 26)
Group B had spontaneous abortions (n = 23)
Group C had induced abortions (n = 23)
Group D were nulligravid (n = 48).
Male microchimerism prevalence was significantly greater in Group C than other groups (8%, 22%, 57%, 10%, respectively).
Levels were also significantly higher in the induced abortion group.

Nulligravid = never been pregnant.

Perhaps you'll argue that 10% must be women with older brothers?

A vague possibility but one that actually needs to be PROVEN, I'm not just going to assume 100% of this group all have older bros.

We could certainly benefit from wider studies though... like wtf is 10% of 48, five?

The vagina is literally designed to kill off sperm cells, look it up, sperm will not survive long in the lining of the vagina, only sperm that makes it to the womb survives and even then its a race to the egg and only one sperm survives

Women can retain male DNA without giving birth by getting pregnant and spontaneously aborting the fetus, sometimes they're not even aware of it:

Does the body retain DNA from others’ sperm? - Baltimore Outloud

Seattle – Mind Foster reports that women retain and carry living DNA from every man with whom they have sexual intercourse, according to a new study by the University of Seattle and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. The study, which discovered the startling information by accident, was...

baltimoreoutloud.com

Very few men watch "soft" porn and keep watching that forever, they always transition to more hardcore stuff

TBH the hardcore stuff to me doesn't really get me off, it's just like horror films, I watch it to test my hardcoreness

I always revert to the softcore manga in my heartwhen I fap

especially since your hatred for women increases over the years as you think about the fact that you are only doing this because women keep rejecting you

My hatred waxes and wanes, it's not a constant spiral into darkness for all of us. Just as you get blackpilled about a lot of women's darker natures, you also can learn more about certain struggles and how to empathize with them.

Porn is simultaneously your outlet to sexual frustration and your reminder of why you are sexually frustrated, which sexually frustrates you lol (its a negative feedback loop)

hardcore porn tbh barely frustrates me it kinda disgusts me. I much prefer gentlefucking voyeur or feigned-voyeur over obviously fake pornos unless they're done for lulz

The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin
The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her
The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks "this is going inside of me?"
The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen
The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure

Spoiler: OP did you have something like this (NSFW) in mind?

 

[TallCelFag]

Personally I don’t care about virginity. Might sound cucked, but I would prefer having sex with a femoid who’s experienced because she’d be able to please me better.

 

[Cope_Time]

Daily sui fuel

 

[highinhibition]

you cannot kiss prostitutes unless you pay more. idk how much more though, also make a thread about islammaxxxing in the future and why it is so important to not return and how to adapt, I am just a pajeet who wants his indian arranged marriage sometime in the future with my virgin muslim indian wife, divorce rates for couples who are arranged marriage is 5 percent only in the states, so I dont really understand why you cannot bring her back

What Modern Arranged Marriages Really Look Like

Though arranged marriages may seem like a relic of a bygone age, they are still surprisingly popular around the world.

www.brides.com

 

[BlkPillPres]

so I dont really understand why you cannot bring her back

You go ahead and take that risk if you want, just don't come back here to complain afterwards

 

[Words2_live_bye]

Basically no sub 6's get to take virginity
only 5 out of ten and less have like a 0.1% chance of doing this

 

[CleverJester]

The fact that virgin women no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

That is correct, very good guess.

(PDF) Semen Displacement as a Sperm Competition Strategy in Humans

PDF | We examine some of the implications of the possibility that the human penis may have evolved to compete with sperm from other males by displacing... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

The penis is designed to scrap off any competitor semen off the vagina's walls. When the female is bleeding thus virgin there is no need for the male to act that rough because he is certified not to get cucked by foreign remnant semen.
It may be indeed "magic", a true but smooth transition into adulthood in which one takes a woman's virginity but doesn't have to compete yet with other males. We really did lose that magic, that's the for ya.

 

[BlkPillPres]

That is correct, very good guess.

(PDF) Semen Displacement as a Sperm Competition Strategy in Humans

PDF | We examine some of the implications of the possibility that the human penis may have evolved to compete with sperm from other males by displacing... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

The penis is designed to scrap off any competitor semen off the vagina's walls. When the female is bleeding thus virgin there is no need for the male to act that rough because he is certified not to get cucked by foreign remnant semen.
It may be indeed "magic", a true but smooth transition into adulthood in which one takes a woman's virginity but doesn't have to compete yet with other males. We really did lose that magic, that's the for ya.

When you think about it a hymen is literally a seal for a vagina for men to "confirm expiry" lol, if the seal is broken then the goods aren't fresh and you are paying too much for it

 

[CleverJester]

When you think about it a hymen is literally a seal for a vagina for men to "confirm expiry" lol, if the seal is broken then the goods aren't fresh and you are paying too much for it

Regarding women : hypergamy aside, any variables asides like being slim (because nothing of her SMV is outside of her control), intrinsically their only value is their hymen.
That's it. As long as they have it they aren't a problem.
Women become problematic when they have been unsealed but aren't filled, as men are the problem solver that FILLS but that's skepticism so let's move on.
"God" said that women are made out of Adam's rib but that's not even it, a rib would be more fitting for our loyal doggos. God should have rather said that they are just made out of an hymen thus just a clump of meat/cells of which they like to describe their own offsprings as they abort them. This is just as if they have something to compensate JFL

 

[Caesercel]

Heck even chads don't get to experience virgin pussies nowadays. If you're a late bloomer or hold yourself out then forget about virgin pussy.

 

[Extra-Samsaric]

Men today are giga cucked for not enforcing chastity in their daughters. There can only be honorable and virtuous foids, and whores, no in between.

Honorable, virtuous foids are either virgins or loyal, dutiful wives.

Whores are all other foids, and they deserve to be used like silicone sex dolls.

 

[Izayacel]

Daily sui fuel

 

[CantEscapeYourFate]

I actually agree with you here. But that's why I don't support escortceling, it just furthers the problem by supporting degeneracy

Why do you care about the well-being of society at this point? Keep in mind this is the same society that treated us incels like utter shit for our entire lives.

I only live for myself and do things that make happy regardless of the effect it has on society or other people's lives.

 

[belowhumanity]

When you think about it, its really fucked up that something that was a norm for BASICALLY EVERY FUCKING MAN ON THE PLANET (70 or so years ago), is now this rare thing reserved only to a few men. There's a small percentage of men fucking all of the virgins and the rest of us just get to fuck them after "all the magic is gone". A rare and exciting experience STOLEN from all of us

I plan on being an escortcel (as many of you already know) but I would never operate within markets with exorbitant prices (like $500 for an hour), but that's because you aren't paying for anything special or rare, its just "sex with a woman" (which you can get anywhere). There's no reason for you to pay $500 to fuck a 5 or 6/10 for an hour (this is peak "shitty rates" that you get in Western countries) when you can go to Brazil or Eastern Europe and fuck a 7 or 8/10 for like $100 an hour (and sometimes less)

One thing I would be willing to pay $500 or even $1000 for, is to fuck a virgin, because it is such a rare and unlikely experience these days, that you can just "write it off" as paying for a "once in a lifetime" experience. Most men in the far past only ever experienced it once in their life anyways



I would much rather pay the amount it required to have a threesome to instead fuck a virgin (I don't get the whole threesome obsession thing, you will never get your moneys worth out of each woman because they distribute the labor while you pay the entire cost)

Sex with a non-virgin woman is enjoyable but it won't really come close to the experience of having sex with a virgin:

There are so many things you don't get to experience when a woman isn't a virgin:
The look of innocence and even a slight bit of fear on her face before you begin
The look on her face as her cheeks blush from embarrassment as you touch and kiss her
The look of curiosity on her face and her eyes widening from excitement when she see's your dick and thinks "this is going inside of me?"
The cute wince when you first penetrate and break her hymen
The look on her face as the physical sensations she experiences transitions from pain and slight discomfort to pleasure
Etc, etc, etc

You get to experience all of this unfolding right before your eyes, LIKE ART IN MOTION

This is an experience that I'm sure is life changing to men because it satisfies something so core to every man's innate desires

This is why I still want to "Islammaxx" one day, in fact I'm sure I will do this, because I want to experience this for myself



If the virgin you had sex with is your wife then your enjoyment only goes further from there, things only get better, because you watch her over time transition from innocence and inexperience, to being YOUR woman

She becomes less passive and more active
She begins to shyly initiate sex acts rather than wait for you to initiate
As time goes on she becomes less shy and more direct, as she becomes comfortable with herself sexually and being with you
She's getting better over time and you can tell

So even if the arousing "innocence" aspect of sex is gone it naturally transitions over into something else that is just as arousing (if not more arousing) for men, sexual dominance

There's this inherent dominance to the entire process, its like you are "training" her to be your perfect "pet" lol, because her entire sexuality revolves around and is developed around your sexual tastes, and over time she starts to form her own tastes and you reciprocate

These are experiences that an average man 70 years ago could experience, but most average men today will never experience this

THAT DYNAMIC NO LONGER EXISTS IN MARRIAGE

MARRIAGE IS POINTLESS UNLESS ITS TO A VIRGIN

This is exactly why the more past sexual partners a woman has the less likely a marriage will last long term (this is a statistical fact)
Source is from "Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women" bv Jay Teachman

Women bond to other men that they have sex with, and they bond even more strongly with the man who took their virginity. There are many biological reasons for this including Oxytocin ("the love hormone") which women have more of than men

Sex-Related Differences in Plasma Oxytocin Levels in Humans

When I speak to average men (IRL) they all pretty much have the same mindset - "I "love" my girl, but you still can't trust these hoes"

TBH most men are pretty "bitter" when it comes to women and how they have affected the dating and marriage market, they won't publicly say these things but if alone with another man they are very open and honest

Women are something that men merely tolerate these days because of their sexual urges, the "magic" is gone and we all know it

Men for the most part I think on a deep level hate the fact that the innocence aspect was taken out of sex and relationships due to women's choices. It takes away from the bonding for men (and women), you don't have the same level of "reverence" or "appreciation" for women because "the magic is gone". Men today don't really trust women or care that much for women really, its more like a "this is the best I can get" kind of thing, so men take what they can get and try to accept this reality

I believe a lot of men engage in "rough sex" these days as some kind of mental substitute to compensate for the lack of dominance they would have usually experienced in the past. They have to compensate for the innate dominance that is experienced when you "train" a woman to be yours and see her sexual behaviors express that "training". The fact that virgin women no longer exist is probably related to why men are so "sexually violent" these days

I don't think "violent porn" is what makes men "sexually violent", this is the usual rhetoric put forth by feminists and all media and I think the order is reversed. I think the demand came way before the supply, men became sexually violent after changes to the dating and marriage market as some kind of psychological adaptation, and porn was created to meet men's changes in taste

Porn is becoming more and more extreme, from "hard anal" to "double penetration", to "triple penetration" and on and on it goes to endlessly more violent and degrading shit, because mentally men are just trying to make up for the dominance they would have experienced had they had sex with and married a virgin.

The experience of "feeling like a man" and "feeling dominant" is PASSIVE to a man who married a virgin, he doesn't need to ACTIVELY do anything to derive that mental satisfaction. You just wake up in the morning next to her and you know that she is yours, and you'd just feel amazing and that would set the mood for the day, you'd go to work productive and come back home to your wife eager to see her

I'd bet my life that male productivity in the work place has gone down over decades and will continue to go down. Having a "loving wife" at home is core to men wanting to "work hard" and contribute to society, women who get married as virgins are more easily satisfied and respect their men more (means better treatment and satisfaction by both parties). This is another reason why the west is going to collapse, men no longer care about society because there's no real reason to care anymore

it is infuriating how 90%+ of foids waste their virginity on a chad who just throws them aside after. Do they not realise the gravity of what they are doing? They experiences they are robbing others of? Robbing themselves of? There has probably been a Chad to have 5+ white foid virgins today, whilst we wither on this forum clown world

 

[It all fell down]

Men today are giga cucked for not enforcing chastity in their daughters. There can only be honorable and virtuous foids, and whores, no in between.

Honorable, virtuous foids are either virgins or loyal, dutiful wives.

Whores are all other foids, and they deserve to be used like silicone sex dolls.

Divorce rates are quiet high and most children from divorce remain with the mother. Also, those father would be judged for toxic masculinity.