Serious Most foids only want average males

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

A lot of you are familiar with requirements theory (that foids won't date a men if he doesn't pass the threshold in a given feature: height, face, frame etc...).
Let's say a foid wants a guy that is in the top 50% of height and top 50% of face attractiveness, well it turns out only about 25% of male population have these requirements*.

If we look deeper into this :
- I'll assume they can handle below average for some features
top 50 % in height +
top 50% in face attractiveness +
top 50 % in dick size +
top 80 % in frame +
top 80 % in NTness +
top 60 % in hairline =

= we are left with top 4.8% of general population


Males that are top 20 % in all of these 6 categories would make up 0.0064‬% or 1 in 15625 of general population.



*Yes, i know some features correlate with each other, but the rate at which they do is insignificant.

 

[wide_eyed_optimism_]

they only want chad, or a betabux and chad on the side

 

[SUPERCEL]

Reality : Top 30-40% in face

 

[Monk of Failure]

They only want top 5-10% face.

 

[zangano1]

tldr. It's over

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

they only want chad, or a betabux and chad on the side

the theoretical chads that check all the boxes are rare af
and are fucking 1-2 foids daily to satisfy the demand

 

[Mr.Sophistication]

*Yes, i know some features correlate with each other, but the rate at which they do is insignificant.

I dont think that they´re that insignificant, a good face lends you good NTness, having a shitty face and getting bullied for it makes you non NT, not every incel was born an autist. Also if your face is really good other factors aren´t so important anymore, a top 70 or even 80% face will make foids ignore average height/frame/dick/hairline, maybe even subpar levels of those characteristics.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

A lot of you are familiar with requirements theory (that foids won't date a men if he doesn't pass the threshold in a given feature: height, face, frame etc...).
Let's say a foid wants a guy that is in the top 50% of height and top 50% of face attractiveness, well it turns out only about 25% of male population have these requirements*.

If we look deeper into this :
- I'll assume they can handle below average for some features
top 50 % in height +
top 50% in face attractiveness +
top 50 % in dick size +
top 80 % in frame +
top 80 % in NTness +
top 60 % in hairline =

= we are left with top 4.8% of general population


Males that are top 20 % in all of these 6 categories would make up 0.0064‬% or 1 in 15625 of general population.



*Yes, i know some features correlate with each other, but the rate at which they do is insignificant.

they accept guys closer to average, but as they say themselves, only if they are at the perfect time and place.

if you only know a handful of women that are compatible and not too disgusting, this easily means you could wait 10-15 years before one of them is finally single and thinks things are just right for the two of you to give it a shot.

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

I dont think that they´re that insignificant, a good face lends you good NTness, having a shitty face and getting bullied for it makes you non NT, not every incel was born an autist. Also if your face is really good other factors aren´t so important anymore, a top 70 or even 80% face will make foids ignore average height/frame/dick/hairline, maybe even subpar levels of those characteristics.

1. Top 70-80 % face means at least not bottom 20-30% face

2. let's consider the correlation and just look at top 50 % height, top 50% face and top 95% of dick,frame and Ntness
that's still top 21 % of population just to be considered average

 

[ThouShallObeyKing]

A lot of you are familiar with requirements theory (that foids won't date a men if he doesn't pass the threshold in a given feature: height, face, frame etc...).
Let's say a foid wants a guy that is in the top 50% of height and top 50% of face attractiveness, well it turns out only about 25% of male population have these requirements*.

If we look deeper into this :
- I'll assume they can handle below average for some features
top 50 % in height +
top 50% in face attractiveness +
top 50 % in dick size +
top 80 % in frame +
top 80 % in NTness +
top 60 % in hairline =

= we are left with top 4.8% of general population


Males that are top 20 % in all of these 6 categories would make up 0.0064‬% or 1 in 15625 of general population.



*Yes, i know some features correlate with each other, but the rate at which they do is insignificant.

jfl you spread negativity

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

jfl you spread negativity

how so ?

 

[Mr.Sophistication]

1. Top 70-80 % face means at least not bottom 20-30% face

2. let's consider the correlation and just look at top 50 % height, top 50% face and top 95% of dick,frame and Ntness
that's still top 21 % of population just to be considered average

I give you that foids have ridiculously high expectations of men, so that only abnormal men in high percentiles are considered "normal" and "true" men, especially when it comes to face. My argument was that foids care much more about face than any other aspect in a man, since the face is the thing that is the most visible, so it projects his "value" the most.
Rest of your appearance is affected by massive halo or failo effect, so even a guy with an average dick gets to be regarded as satisfying and hot as long as hes got chads face and a man with a great dick and an ugly face wont even ever get to use his dick.

Im not saying that you´re wrong boyo, the 4,8% of population that youre referring to are the true chads and theyre very scarce, as you have said before, top 20% in everything is gigachad and even much rarer.
My point is that foids dont actually like true average men, they despise them, the only real important thing you need is an above average face, once you got that you can get away with being average or subpar in other categories easily.

jfl you spread negativity

Where do you think you are, boyo?

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

My point is that foids dont actually like true average men, they despise them, the only real important thing you need is an above average face, once you got that you can get away with being average or subpar in other categories easily.

i agree with face being the most important feature, but you also need top 80% height just to compete
but however you look at it, only top 20 % can get laid and have relationships without huge betabuxxing

 

[Mr.Sophistication]

i agree with face being the most important feature, but you also need top 80% height just to compete
but however you look at it, only top 20 % can get laid and have relationships without huge betabuxxing

Ive mentioned it before and I say it again, manletism is a cope. Peter Dinklage gets to slay and is a well know and respected actor, being a fucking midget. If you think that its your height that inhibits you from slaying the truth is that your face isnt good enough to make foids ignore your height, know enough people that are tall as fuck but are too ugly/too non NT and are actually incel because of that.
Also only 20% getting laid is a misconception, they are the ones getting laid easily, rest gets a lay every few months, a year, or a couple of years barring betabuxx.
Very bottom is us, no lay at all, things are getting more dire and our group is increasing.

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

Ive mentioned it before and I say it again, manletism is a cope. Peter Dinklage gets to slay and is a well know and respected actor, being a fucking midget. If you think that its your height that inhibits you from slaying the truth is that your face isnt good enough to make foids ignore your height, know enough people that are tall as fuck but are too ugly/too non NT and are actually incel because of that.

i'm not buying the actor argument, i don't think my height inhibits me from slaying, same way you think certain face attractiveness is a requirement, same thing applies to height

Also only 20% getting laid is a misconception, they are the ones getting laid easily, rest gets a lay every few months, a year, or a couple of years barring betabuxx.
Very bottom is us, no lay at all, things are getting more dire and our group is increasing.

tbh i don't think they can't get laid in general even outside of betabuxxing, but the quality of their lays and effort required to get them, makes it so that seeing an escort is a better option

 

[CrackingYs]

This is true. We already know foids are willing to left swipe 10's of thousands of times on Tinder for the opportunity to find these above-average-in-every-possible-way men (aka "good men"), and then only fuck the top 20% of them, and try to get betabux from others. This is why Tinder exists, and why foids love swiping and swiping and turning every average guy down. They don't want average, they want above average in every possible way.

 

[Justdone]

Face>Frame>Social level >

”Anything about career”>

personality

That’s how i see it...

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

they might settle with a normie when old, but only the top 1% of men slay

 

[Mr.Sophistication]

i'm not buying the actor argument, i don't think my height inhibits me from slaying, same way you think certain face attractiveness is a requirement, same thing applies to height



tbh i don't think they can't get laid in general even outside of betabuxxing, but the quality of their lays and effort required to get them, makes it so that seeing an escort is a better option

Theres nothing you need to buy about the actor thing, you just shouldnt deny reality, the truth is always better for you. Face is the one and only thing to end all other things, the apexpill eating all the other pills for breakfast. Dont believe me? Look at this shit:


Youre entirely right about the effort and escort thing though, got a bit ahead of myself, meant to say that slaying is possible for a lot of under top 20% men but the circumstances of doing so get very shit very fast, best option is trying to cheat the game in some way.

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

Theres nothing you need to buy about the actor thing, you just shouldnt deny reality, the truth is always better for you. Face is the one and only thing to end all other things, the apexpill eating all the other pills for breakfast. Dont believe me? Look at this shit:
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never said i don't believe he doesn't have a wife
i said that i don't buy that example as an argument ("I'm not buying the actor argument")
you think that dwarf got a wife because of his face ?

"millionaire actor" argument is the dumbest shit i ever heard

Youre entirely right about the effort and escort thing though, got a bit ahead of myself, meant to say that slaying is possible for a lot of under top 20% men but the circumstances of doing so get very shit very fast, best option is trying to cheat the game in some way.

ye tbh

 

[omnigold]

"top 80 % in NTness" That doesn't pass in 2019, they want top 30% in NTness.

 

[Mr.Sophistication]

never said i don't believe he doesn't have a wife
i said that i don't buy that example as an argument ("I'm not buying the actor argument")
you think that dwarf got a wife because of his face ?

"millionaire actor" argument is the dumbest shit i ever heard
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Dinklage isnt a "millionaire actor", he just has an extremely good face, maybe hes a millionaire but then because of his face. He´s also an actor only because of his face, he doesnt even act well, mostly does deadpan stuff, only works if your face is up to it though.
Who is the guy in the picture? Is he rich? Is he a famous actor? Is this even his wife/gf? I dont even know this fucker, its a bad cherrypick.

And yes Im actually 100% sure that Dinklage got everything that he has in his life ONLY because of his face: his wife, his career, his children, his position as a respected actor, its all because of his face. The dude wasnt born rich, he didnt betabuxx, he didnt stemmaxx or gymmaxx or maxxed anything he just got a free ticket to success due to his face, was good enough to invalidate being a dwarf.

Damn, brought this up in a deleted thread one time already, Dinklagepill REALLY is a hard pill to swallow for some.

 

[FukFeminism]

Well I’ve always basically said that obviously we are the minority, most men are getting fairly consistent relationships or sex, directly proportional to their attractiveness. Once you are below a certain PSL it is over for you, but most people are above that level. It’s over for me.

 

[Mainländer]

Average men are semi-incels in 2019, especially in the first world.

 

[esoteric]

jfl you spread negativity

you lost bud?

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

Dinklage isnt a "millionaire actor"

yes he is

he just has an extremely good face, maybe hes a millionaire but then because of his face. He´s also an actor only because of his face, he doesnt even act well, mostly does deadpan stuff, only works if your face is up to it though.

90% of actors are successful because of their face, water is wet

Who is the guy in the picture? Is he rich? Is he a famous actor? Is this even his wife/gf? I dont even know this fucker, its a bad cherrypick.

Verne Troyer. Yes, he was rich(dead). Yes. Yes, (we even have a confirmed video of him getting laid). Your shit is a cherrypick as well, my guy is a better cherrypick, literal 0/10.

Verne Troyer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And yes Im actually 100% sure that Dinklage got everything that he has in his life ONLY because of his face: his wife, his career, his children, his position as a respected actor, its all because of his face. The dude wasnt born rich, he didnt betabuxx, he didnt stemmaxx or gymmaxx or maxxed anything he just got a free ticket to success due to his face, was good enough to invalidate being a dwarf.

Damn, brought this up in a deleted thread one time already, Dinklagepill REALLY is a hard pill to swallow for some.

he is currently betabuxxing
but yeah i'll give you that, peter dinklage is a one in a million dwarf that got his success from his face
i could cherrypick some ugly tall guy or something and it would serve no purpose at all in my argument
just as peter serves nothing to yours

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

They only want top 5-10% face.

 

[The Incel Decade]

A lot of you are familiar with requirements theory (that foids won't date a men if he doesn't pass the threshold in a given feature: height, face, frame etc...).
Let's say a foid wants a guy that is in the top 50% of height and top 50% of face attractiveness, well it turns out only about 25% of male population have these requirements*.

If we look deeper into this :
- I'll assume they can handle below average for some features
top 50 % in height +
top 50% in face attractiveness +
top 50 % in dick size +
top 80 % in frame +
top 80 % in NTness +
top 60 % in hairline =

= we are left with top 4.8% of general population


Males that are top 20 % in all of these 6 categories would make up 0.0064‬% or 1 in 15625 of general population.



*Yes, i know some features correlate with each other, but the rate at which they do is insignificant.

This was always traditionally true pre-internet/pre-feminism but in the age of Tinder even 80/20 theory is out the window. It's more 95/5 now.

Women only want an average guy when they're ready to settle down in their 30s or 40s when they can't get Chad anymore and even then they still demand a guy who makes more money than them.

 

[LitVirgin]

This is why harems exist because there arent enough top tier guys to go around so they just share. It makes me wonder why we need so many men if foids only want a small percentage

 

[WolfOfLoneStreet]

This was always traditionally true pre-internet/pre-feminism but in the age of Tinder even 80/20 theory is out the window. It's more 95/5 now.

Women only want an average guy when they're ready to settle down in their 30s or 40s when they can't get Chad anymore and even then they still demand a guy who makes more money than them.

I think 80/20 rule still applies, we just need to expand it a bit

80 % of women are having sex with 20 % of men

20 % of those 20 % men are having sex with 80 % out of those 80% of women

which means 4 % of men are having sex with 64 % of women

we can expand it more, but physical and biological limits don't allow terachads basically

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Average men tend to have an average normal life with average job, home and car. They are good candidates for betabuxxing. Because they are docile, low maintenance and easy to cuck.

Chads are rare (top 10%), very high maintenace, dominant, abusive, and prone to cheat. They also spend most of their entire life establishing harems, so they are also not happy with one woman.

So the most practical strategy is to marry a betabuxx, secure his resources and fucking chads on the side. That's what most post wall foids do.