Discussion Morality is just another widely-used manipulation tool

[speedtypingincel]

Invented by society. It's to control and put mental restrictions on people who they deem to be genetically inferior or genetically superior.
When bluepillers say that we don't deserve it's trying to make us believe we don't "deserve" it and therefore will not chase it.
In my native language, the word "deserve" translates to something close to the word "value". But who decides what has or has not inherent value? You can't, youtube can't, inceltears users can't, your mom can't. Nobody.
It's all about wanting or not wanting.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

The only morality I have comes from the Bible

 

[speedtypingincel]

The only morality I have comes from the Bible

That's the point. Who's Bible to decide who deserves or doesn't deserve things? I could write my own book and force to people my own morality.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

That's the point. Who's Bible to decide who deserves or doesn't deserve things? I could write my own book and force to people my own morality.

it’s comes from god nigga stop allat capping

 

[speedtypingincel]

it’s comes from god nigga stop allat capping

But why is God a God?
Does God deserve to be God?
Who decided that God deserves to be God?
Ironically God is just God because he happens to be God if you are being honest with yourself, how do you expect the universe created by an undeserving being to be dictated by principles like "deserving", the universe inherently has nothing to do with "deserving" because:

1. Its all random chance

2. It was created by a God who is just God because he exists as God, in other words he did not EARN his Godhood, he's undeserving so the universe he created is inherently one where people get things they do and don't deserve at random.

 

[Billowel]

That's the point. Who's Bible to decide who deserves or doesn't deserve things? I could write my own book and force to people my own morality.

the good and the bad exist and the good will eternally be good.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

yes god deserves to be god man

 

[speedtypingincel]

the good and the bad exist and the good will eternally be good.

Give me an example.

 

[Billowel]

But why is God a God?
Does God deserve to be God?
Who decided that God deserves to be God?
Ironically God is just God because he happens to be God if you are being honest with yourself, how do you expect the universe created by an undeserving being to be dictated by principles like "deserving", the universe inherently has nothing to do with "deserving" because:

1. Its all random chance

2. It was created by a God who is just God because he exists as God, in other words he did not EARN his Godhood, he's undeserving so the universe he created is inherently one where people get things they do and don't deserve at random.

for god to be god he must be good,just,perfect etc etc.If god had any sort of imperfection or was unjust or was not in control of everything then he could not be called god.

Give me an example.

what do you mean?

 

[Deleted member 1983]

reminded me of this

but yes morality is something humans created, no other mammals have a moral compass

 

[Deleted member 23656]

When I win, I was right.
When you lose, you were wrong

 

[speedtypingincel]

for god to be god he must be good,just,perfect etc etc.If god had any sort of imperfection or was unjust or was not in control of everything then he could not be called god.

Is God just towards Incels?

 

[Deleted member 22571]

Morality in it's simplest form is the idea of there being a right and a wrong, which are stupid man-made concepts that don't exist in nature. It's stupid because being right and being wrong is completely subjective. You can be seen as right by one person, but wrong by another person. Only low IQ individuals worry about morality.

 

[speedtypingincel]

Only low IQ individuals worry about morality.

I think some people are moral because they want to feel superior to others, plainly put. They are doing "good" while others are doing "bad". Therefore they are superior.

It all has to do with how much ego you have (how self-absorbed you are).

 

[Billowel]

Is God just towards Incels?

he must of necessity be so.you will most likely laugh at what i just said since you imagine that god who is all good would never in a million years *condemn* incels to this life of *hell*.Then you can only assume two things.that god is supremely evil or that god is partly evil.God cannot be supremely evil and be called god for if god truly hated man then we wouldn't even be here since no one keeps that which he dislikes unless he is forced.No god is *forced* so he cannot be supremely evil.So is god partly evil?If god is partly evil then again he would still dislike x person but since he is partly evil he would like someone.Now if you like someone you would not want him to be with that which is bad and god would kill that which is bad.since this isn't observed we must assume that god loves all man.but God since he is just he will punish that who he loves but will never hate or dislike man by itself.he will only dislike the sin that attaches to man and for this man must pay.

 

[Deleted member 22571]

I think some people are moral because they want to feel superior to others, plainly put. They are doing "good" while others are doing "bad". Therefore they are superior.

It all has to do with how much ego you have (how self-absorbed you are).

Yeah a big ego makes people blind to reality/dumb because their ego causes them to have a tunnel vision where their main focus in their life is feeding their ego more and more, and morality is an easy tool they can use to do it.

 

[Deleted member 19858]

Morality in it's simplest form is the idea of there being a right and a wrong, which are stupid man-made concepts that don't exist in nature. It's stupid because being right and being wrong is completely subjective. You can be seen as right by one person, but wrong by another person. Only low IQ individuals worry about morality.

Was about to say this. Morality is a social construct made to manipulate the choices of others. Your morality is whatever you make it to be, it is subjective after all

 

[guaucel]

(((political correctness))) = convinient censorship

 

[Deleted member 20659]

Morals are not real. Nor are rights or most of linguistic enunciations

 

[Lame Dude]

People are social animals. If we could live all alone in the jungle, morality wouldnt mean anything. Yet in human societies that is not true.
You might think of that as an agreement for mutual benefit. Even parasites who leech off from their host slower, get to live longer, because the host has time to feed itself.

Online shopping for example, nobody sees each other. If morality didnt mean shit, seller would send an empty box, and the buyer would pay with a fake account. So why doesnt this happen? (I am aware of exceptions)

Because people care about their reputation. Humans specialize in their jobs, so basically everybody needs each other.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

yes god deserves to be god man

How does god "deserve" to be god? What's your definition of "absurd"

And I agree OP, morality doesn't exist, I made a topic discussing some thoughts on it recently:

https://incels.is/threads/does-morality-even-exist.170557/

 

[Personalityinkwell]

yes god deserves to be god man

bruh I asked you a question how do you know?

 

[Deleted member 20434]

bruh I asked you a question how do you know?

I just know man

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I just know man

That's not an explanation at all. You're just coping

 

[Flaccid_Dave]

reminded me of this View attachment 191768

but yes morality is something humans created, no other mammals have a moral compass

Of course animals have a moral compass. Their understanding of morality is not as complex as ours but they live by codes of conduct when in groups. Read Jane Goodall. It was was one of Adam Lanzas favourite books (fun incel fact).

 

[Deleted member 20434]

That's not an explanation at all. You're just coping

Atheist coper

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Atheist coper

Lol nice comeback bro. Make sure you explain how God deserves to be God, oh that's right, you can't. How is atheism coping anyway. I'm not practicing religion, that's like saying not playing video games or not watching TV is coping

 

[Deleted member 21514]

I have no morality tbh

 

[muharremabi]

Having morals is pretty fucking bluepilled ngl.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

atheist cope

 

[speedtypingincel]

Lol nice comeback bro. Make sure you explain how God deserves to be God, oh that's right, you can't. How is atheism coping anyway. I'm not practicing religion, that's like saying not playing video games or not watching TV is coping

Imagine desperately clinging to such an argument.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

Of course animals have a moral compass. Their understanding of morality is not as complex as ours but they live by codes of conduct when in groups. Read Jane Goodall. It was was one of Adam Lanzas favourite books (fun incel fact).

ordered hierachy isnt the same as morals, wolves dont respect the alpha because of morality

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Invented by society. It's to control and put mental restrictions on people who they deem to be genetically inferior or genetically superior.
When bluepillers say that we don't deserve it's trying to make us believe we don't "deserve" it and therefore will not chase it.
In my native language, the word "deserve" translates to something close to the word "value". But who decides what has or has not inherent value? You can't, youtube can't, inceltears users can't, your mom can't. Nobody.
It's all about wanting or not wanting.

Interstellar level IQ

 

[Irredeemable]

The only morality I have comes from the Bible

Holy cope

 

[speedtypingincel]

Of course animals have a moral compass. Their understanding of morality is not as complex as ours but they live by codes of conduct when in groups. Read Jane Goodall. It was was one of Adam Lanzas favourite books (fun incel fact).

Spoiler: code of conduct: from Oxford's dictionary

You're mistaking codes of conduct with "morality".
As @Virginp0wers explained, those are determined by the genetic hierarchy:

Alpha = tall, wide frame, average/handsome face.
Beta = above-average/below-average/average height, facial attractiveness varies.
Omega = short, may be ugly.

 

[JestER]

There is no morals for your face

 

[Personalityinkwell]

The only morality I have comes from the Bible

What parts of the bible by the way? The bible says that handicap people shouldn't enter a house of worship. It says any child who strikes their parents must be put to death. It promotes genocide and slavery. You're black, right? your ancestors were enslaved and THE BIBLE WAS USED AS JUSTIFICATION. Do you support that?

 

[Deleted member 20434]

What parts of the bible by the way? The bible says that handicap people shouldn't enter a house of worship. It says any child who strikes their parents must be put to death. It promotes genocide and slavery. You're black, right? your ancestors were enslaved and THE BIBLE WAS USED AS JUSTIFICATION. Do you support that?

but it also supports uprisings which is why the Bible wasn’t given in full to slaves jfl

 

[Personalityinkwell]

but it also supports uprisings which is why the Bible wasn’t given in full to slaves jfl

But seriously, you think slavery is ok?

 

[Flaccid_Dave]

ordered hierachy isnt the same as morals, wolves dont respect the alpha because of morality

They have empathy. They are capable of altruism and sacrafice.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

They have empathy. They are capable of altruism and sacrafice.

looks like they have something foids dont.

ive hard they way foids talk about the recently deceased, makes me think they are all sociopaths

 

[ItsOver4cel]

Morality was created for the sole purpose of supressing human's nature, but it doesn't work like that. You can't just cage a lion and expect for it to not be there.

 

[speedtypingincel]

They have empathy. They are capable of altruism and sacrafice.

Where do you get this information from? Have you watched any documentaries?

 

[Flaccid_Dave]

Where do you get this information from? Have you watched any documentaries?

Books, documentaries. Chimps pretty much display all the emotions and behaviours that humans do. They even take part in rituals which might loosely be considered religious. Goodall, Dawkins, Attenborough etc...

 

[Transcended Trucel]

based. morals used to keep poor fags cucked and stop em from rising up against the rich niggers

 

[speedtypingincel]

Books, documentaries. Chimps pretty much display all the emotions and behaviours that humans do. They even take part in rituals which might loosely be considered religious. Goodall, Dawkins, Attenborough etc...

Can you elaborate more?

 

[FUCKITALLREEE]

Morality in it's simplest form is the idea of there being a right and a wrong, which are stupid man-made concepts that don't exist in nature. It's stupid because being right and being wrong is completely subjective. You can be seen as right by one person, but wrong by another person. Only low IQ individuals worry about morality.

 

[Flaccid_Dave]

Can you elaborate more?

I'm agnostic about god and objective morality so I can't, or at least can't be arsed, to make an argument that morality exists as anything more than a man made concept.

What we generally consider to be 'moral' acts come from a place of empathy or an understanding that behaving in a certain ay will be healthier for the group.The force of law is not the only reason we don't steal and rape at will. We are intelligent enough to see that being complete dicks to each other all of the time will have consequences for society.

Animals are intelligent enough to see this too. In different ways, of course, but it's there. A chimp might decide to go out of its way to help another chimp when it could just sit their and wank itself off with its foot.