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Blackpill Morality Is Ironically Why Society Is Corrupt and Degeneracy is Flourishing

The ideal society would be driven primarily by logic. I think the reason society is so immoral is ironically because we are trying to be moral and not logical.

The basis of all laws that are good for a society, is logic.

Take murder for example, the law should not be "you should not kill because its bad/evil", it should be - "you should not kill because you also do not want to be killed". We should hate murder as a society because if we allow other people to kill others haphazardly, then we might be next, sounds fucked up but if society ran on cold logic like that, then everything would be more peaceful.

Basing laws on morality is ironically why society is flawed, its because MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE. Even criminal organizations like the Yakuza or the Italian Mob, etc all have "codes of honour", that are things that even the average citizen would agree with. They have their own set of morals, for example the Mob usually doesn't allow killing women and children, its an emotional and subjective "rule", they have let their emotions create an illogical ruleset, but ironically they can kill men, steal from families, sell drugs, etc.

This is the problem with morals, everybody thinks their moral code is "good enough". If we all had to operate on logic, there is no such thing as "my logic" or "your logic", a choice either is logical or it isn't, logic is based on whats objective, not on how something makes one feel. We need a logical society not a moral one, "true morals" are inherent to logic, because logic usually yields the greatest collective rule set

Imagine how much the rates of rape and human trafficking would go down of prostitution was decriminalized, think about it, its completely illogical that paying for sex is illegal, there's no logical reason why it should be, yet despite all the income it would generate for a country if taxable, despite all the people it would alleviate from suffering, society keeps it illegal due to moral reasoning.

You see that slut on instagram, a lot of you moralfags on this site would say that she is being immoral, but you would be wrong. She doesn't kill, she doesn't steal, she doesn't <insert "bad" thing here>. That's her morals, as far as she's concerned "the times have changed" and she can be a slut and "it isn't hurting anyone". She is completely moral FOR THE ERA SHE EXISTS IN.

Again MORALS ARE SUBJECTIVE, they change from person to person, country to country, era to era. Morals are pointless, we need to be driven by logic not morals, morals can be altered and therefore THEY CAN BE CORRUPTED.

You can't corrupt logic, you can't corrupt objectivity. It always is what its going to be, it will never change, any changes to a law based on logic, will also be logical, but changes to a "moral code" can easily become corrupted.

In fact modern society is the greatest example of this, Christians influenced laws using their moral code, that's why gay marriage was illegal, today morals have been changed due to EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS. People against gay marriage are seen as "bigots", "evil", etc. Now today gay marriage is legal.

ANY LAW WITH A FOUNDATION BASED ON EMOTION, IS "STRUCTURALLY WEAK" AND CAN BE ALTERED USING EMOTIONS.

MORALS CORRUPT A SOCIETY, THEY DON'T HELP IT
 
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My brocel is literally repeating what Jesus Christ preached two thousand years ago.
 
You've got it. You understand that morality is the poidon of soyciety.
 
The ideal society would be driven primarily by logic. I think the reason society is so immoral is ironically because we are trying to be moral and not logical.

The basis of all laws that are good for a society, is logic.

Take murder for example, the law should not be "you should not kill because its bad/evil", it should be - "you should not kill because you also do not want to be killed". We should hate murder as a society because if we allow other people to kill others haphazardly, then we might be next, sounds fucked up but if society ran on cold logic like that, then everything would be more peaceful.

Basing laws on morality is ironically why society is flawed, its because MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE. Even criminal organizations like the Yakuza or the Italian Mob, etc all have "codes of honour", that are things that even the average citizen would agree with. They have their own set of morals, for example the Mob usually doesn't allow killing women and children, its an emotional and subjective "rule", they have let their emotions create an illogical ruleset, but ironically they can kill men, steal from families, sell drugs, etc.

This is the problem with morals, everybody thinks their moral code is "good enough". If we all had to operate on logic, there is no such thing as "my logic" or "your logic", a choice either is logical or it isn't, logic is based on whats objective, not on how something makes one feel. We need a logical society not a moral one, "true morals" are inherent to logic, because logic usually yields the greatest collective rule set

Imagine how much the rates of rape and human trafficking would go down of prostitution was decriminalized, think about it, its completely illogical that paying for sex is illegal, there's no logical reason why it should be, yet despite all the income it would generate for a country if taxable, despite all the people it would alleviate from suffering, society keeps it illegal due to moral reasoning.

You see that slut on instagram, a lot of you moralfags on this site would say that she is being immoral, but you would be wrong. She doesn't kill, she doesn't steal, she doesn't <insert "bad" thing here>. That's her morals, as far as she's concerned "the times have changed" and she can be a slut and "it isn't hurting anyone". She is completely moral FOR THE ERA SHE EXISTS IN.

Again MORALS ARE SUBJECTIVE, they change from person to person, country to country, era to era. Morals are pointless, we need to be driven by logic not morals, morals can be altered and therefore THEY CAN BE CORRUPTED.

You can't corrupt logic, you can't corrupt objectivity. It always is what its going to be, it will never change, any changes to a law based on logic, will also be logical, but changes to a "moral code" can easily become corrupted.

In fact modern society is the greatest example of this, Christians influenced laws using their moral code, that's why gay marriage was illegal, today morals have been changed due to EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS. People against gay marriage are seen as "bigots", "evil", etc. Now today gay marriage is legal.

ANY LAW WITH A FOUNDATION BASED ON EMOTION, IS "STRUCTURALLY WEAK" AND CAN BE ALTERED USING EMOTIONS.

MORALS CORRUPT A SOCIETY, THEY DON'T HELP IT
valid argument to some extent.
 
If you were logical you would articulate that modern morals are shit instead of writing this thread.

Modern society doesn't have any morals, it's governed by anti-values and degeneracy. It's all the fault of women who enact their preferences onto society. These anti values promote pacifism, multiculturalism, free gibs to foreigners as well as sexual deviancy. So it's promotion of anti values that is rotten rather than morality itself.
 
In Islam every sin is tied to obeying God, and morally it’s the most complete religion. Religion IMO is the most effective way to translate logic into morals, people fear a God (emotions) which gives logical commands thus they follow those logical commands in order to appease Him.

But damn these are some high IQ threads, too bad these users all quit the forum.
 
In Islam every sin is tied to obeying God, and morally it’s the most complete religion. Religion IMO is the most effective way to translate logic into morals, people fear a God (emotions) which gives logical commands thus they follow those logical commands in order to appease Him.

But damn these are some high IQ threads, too bad these users all quit the forum.
User who wrote thread was kinda based but at same time was always quite pretentious
 
No, the enslavement of foids built civilization. The longhouses burned.
Well foids wouldn’t have had freedom before civilisation. Civilisation cucks males by removing their right to violence and makes controlling women harder
 
This is merely morality dressed differently. These so-called logic-based rules are still grounded in value judgments about what outcomes are preferable (peace, safety, prosperity, reduced suffering, etc.). This is applied reasoning based on a chosen standard of “good.”

“Don’t kill, because you don’t want to be killed.” is basically the Golden Rule, which is one of the oldest moral frameworks in human history. Logic is a tool, not a value system.

Morality is the set of values that logic gets applied to. Without morality, there’s no “why” to guide what logic should optimize. This is just quasi-utilitarian morality grounded in outcomes and consistency.
 
Civilisation cucks males by removing their right to violence and makes controlling women harder
That also means some roided fuck can't kill you in broad daylight and then fuck your mother or sister next to your dead body. "Suppression" can be legalized which makes "controlling" easier.
 
But that's not morality, though, is it? That's our survival instinct speaking.
“Don’t kill because you don’t want to be killed” still implies a value judgment, being that preserving life is important, not just for you, but collectively. Logic helps you reason from that premise, but the premise itself is moral in nature because it tells you what outcome is preferable. Without agreeing that life preservation, safety, or social stability are “good,” the reasoning doesn’t follow.
 
That also means some roided fuck can't kill you in broad daylight and then fuck your mother or sister next to your dead body. "Suppression" can be legalized which makes "controlling" easier.
I know, suppression is a good thing. But you can’t really do what you want to women, their male family members will mess you up or you’ll end up fucked by the law.
 
Well foids wouldn’t have had freedom before civilisation. Civilisation cucks males by removing their right to violence and makes controlling women harder
Ahem... The longhouse. The readon humans built communities wasn't for protection. It was to ensure that close proximity obscured the paternity of a child. Probably not by design. Eventually, men got tired of cheating whores, so they built the nuclear family to enforce paternity. Then went and fucked it up by letting thfir daughters go clubbing and telling their sons that was hot.
 
I know, suppression is a good thing. But you can’t really do what you want to women, their male family members will mess you up or you’ll end up fucked by the law.
That's why you fuck them up first.
 
I know, suppression is a good thing. But you can’t really do what you want to women, their male family members will mess you up or you’ll end up fucked by the law.
"Suppression" can be legalized.

Suppression doesn't mean "you as a man being able to do anything to (your)foid." I also acknowledge that foids' presence in society leads to more male conflicts. So, for me, the ideal arrangement would be men and foids being separated at birth.
Ahem... The longhouse. The readon humans built communities wasn't for protection. It was to ensure that close proximity obscured the paternity of a child. Probably not by design. Eventually, men got tired of cheating whores, so they built the nuclear family to enforce paternity. Then went and fucked it up by letting thfir daughters go clubbing and telling their sons that was hot.
Yeah! The cuckery has also been pretty prevalent in hunter-gatherer societies and even embraced by their men.
 
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But that's not morality, though, is it? That's our survival instinct speaking.
I have no horses in this race, but don't think that's our survival instinct when it comes lives of others, we literally don't give damm about anyone besides us ( not even our ''family'' ) moralfagging comes in clutch that we should respect other lives cause we don't want to be killed so i agree with @AtrociousCitizen to some degree

@The Notorious SLAV what you personally think of this thread ?
 
moralfagging comes in clutch that we should respect other lives cause we don't want to be killed
There are definitely people who do abide by this as some sort of a "moral code", but they still have their breaking points. The large majority are simply indifferent when it comes to killing others. They can swiftly turn into murderous beasts given the freedom or incentives. The rest are actual murderers or want to kill but can't.

I think most humans just do a trade-off of having to put up with their "family", "friends", and "communities" in return for security, stability, and alleviation of their loneliness.
 
There are definitely people who do abide by this as some sort of a "moral code", but they still have their breaking points. The large majority are simply indifferent when it comes to killing others. They can swiftly turn into murderous beasts given the freedom or incentives. The rest are actual murderers or want to kill but can't.

I think most humans just do a trade-off of having to put up with their "family", "friends", and "communities" in return for security, stability, and alleviation of their loneliness.
Mentality of herd i see, it's true crowds realize true human nature in many individuals
 
User who wrote thread was kinda based but at same time was always quite pretentious
He was another ethnic who lowkey hated Whites, that always rubs me wrong no matter what else they say/post
 
I have no horses in this race, but don't think that's our survival instinct when it comes lives of others, we literally don't give damm about anyone besides us ( not even our ''family'' ) moralfagging comes in clutch that we should respect other lives cause we don't want to be killed so i agree with @AtrociousCitizen to some degree

@The Notorious SLAV what you personally think of this thread ?
Just because a murderer murders doesn't mean he is likely to be murdered. In fact, statistically, I'm fairly certain that murderers get murdered less, so "don't murder lest ye be murdered" is a shit moral framework.
 
I have no horses in this race, but don't think that's our survival instinct when it comes lives of others, we literally don't give damm about anyone besides us ( not even our ''family'' ) moralfagging comes in clutch that we should respect other lives cause we don't want to be killed so i agree with @AtrociousCitizen to some degree

@The Notorious SLAV what you personally think of this thread ?
Dunno, first time I'm seeing this, but @AtrociousCitizen pretty much nailed it, literally all OP did was change the way morality should justified.

Also, tbh, deep discussions on "morality" usually just genuinely lose me. People aren't "moral" because you teach them to be, nobody's walking around having intense internal monologues with themselves on their internal value and morality system, they act the way they do because it's instinctive to them, as @GeckoBus once went on a rant about.
 

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