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Discussion 'MGTOW is growing, how will governments respond?'

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In before some teen zoomer says 'Men Sent their own way'
 
MGTOW is the result of too much cope
 
It's over
It's over for humanity, yes.
Mgtow is a natural reaction to the degenerate state of modern society, it's the breakdown of traditional gender roles, the destruction of the family, and the rise of toxic feminism and women becoming more whorish in general. But Walking away only hands victory to those who want to see our people divided and demoralized. Either way we lose fuck this shit
 
They will respond by importing foreign populations to make up for the lack of native births :yes:
 
MGTOW is the result of too much cope
That misses the point entirely. It's not about avoiding responsibility or crying over rejection, it's about recognizing the hard truth thay the dating market is fundamentally broken. No fault divorce, family courts, hypergamy driven by social media, and feminist-dominated, even chads get cheated on these days, how do you compete in this market? institutions have made relationships a high risk, low reward game for men. Walking away seems more like damage control for most I guess
 
MGTOW is the result of too much cope
MGTOW isn't wrong, IF done right. When a man decides to go MGTOW he has to withdraw his tax support from the system as well, AS MUCH AS HE CAN.

This mean, having a source of income that is not taxed at all. Probably will have to work illegally / unregistered.
He then should also have a place to stay for which he doesn't have to pay neither rent nor land leasing.
He will have to grow and hunt his own food, because if he buys food there is tax on it.

If MGTOW men want to be serious about something, they should actually unite and literally found their own nation / state and make their own rules.
The government can't possibly put them all in jail and I doubt they'd be stulid enough to kill all of the potential workers / tax payers.

They'd have to literally force them back on the plantation. MGTOW men would also have to create their own legal tender and monetary system, which is legal, btw.
 
They will respond by importing foreign populations to make up for the lack of native births :yes:
Yes pretty much. The collapse of native birthrates isn't seen as a crisis by elites cause it's the plan. They promote feminism, consumerism, and degeneracy to destroy traditionalism, then flood homelands with foreign populations under the guise of economic necessity. This isn’t demographic shift, it’s replacement. A dying people is easier to control, easier to erase. Even though I know where mgtows come from, it's one symptom of a deeper rot.
 
Yes pretty much. The collapse of native birthrates isn't seen as a crisis by elites cause it's the plan.
People say multiculturalism has failed but really its succeeded in what it was implemented to do
 
MGTOW isn't wrong, IF done right. When a man decides to go MGTOW he has to withdraw his tax support from the system as well, AS MUCH AS HE CAN.

This mean, having a source of income that is not taxed at all. Probably will have to work illegally / unregistered.
He then should also have a place to stay for which he doesn't have to pay neither rent nor land leasing.
He will have to grow and hunt his own food, because if he buys food there is tax on it.

If MGTOW men want to be serious about something, they should actually unite and literally found their own nation / state and make their own rules.
The government can't possibly put them all in jail and I doubt they'd be stulid enough to kill all of the potential workers / tax payers.

They'd have to literally force them back on the plantation. MGTOW men would also have to create their own legal tender and monetary system, which is legal, btw.
Ye, Withdrawing support from the system can't stop at just checking out of relationships or marriage. If a man goes mgtow but keeps feeding the same machine through taxes, rent, and consumption, he's still part of the system that exploits him. The system doesn’t just want your labor and money cause it wants your spirit broken, identity erased, and your people replaced.
Creating parallel structures like offgrid living, alternative economies, barter, land ownership etc and even your own legal frameworks is not only logical, but essential. But it can’t be done atomized.
 
Are you 15yo or what? Agreeing that it's cope.
You think 8/10 looking men live blissful lives with loyal to the core women, walking in a land of honey nowadays in 2025?
You think SMV still matters when an entire system is broken?:lul:
Sure they hookup with whores but sustainable relationships are a thing of the past,
 
They will respond by importing foreign populations to make up for the lack of native births :yes:
Importing more foreigners doesn't work longterm because statistics show that their birthrates go down the shitter just after one generation.
 
Ye, Withdrawing support from the system can't stop at just checking out of relationships or marriage. If a man goes mgtow but keeps feeding the same machine through taxes, rent, and consumption, he's still part of the system that exploits him. The system doesn’t just want your labor and money cause it wants your spirit broken, identity erased, and your people replaced.
Creating parallel structures like offgrid living, alternative economies, barter, land ownership etc and even your own legal frameworks is not only logical, but essential. But it can’t be done atomized.
The problem is land ownership. There is no landownership for the citizens. None of us actually owns land. We still pay taxes for it. In Germany it is Grundsteuer und some pay Pacht.

Ordinary German have built THEIR houses on land which they do not own.
Once they can't afford to pay the Grundsteuer what do they think will happen?

And yet they never collectively question that system.
They accept it like the dumb and lazy slaves that they are, probably thinking that it all somehow makes sense and is in their interrest.

I swear they are making these mental gymnastics in their heads to excuse all this bullshit.
My father does that all the time when I question such things.
 
They will respond by importing foreign populations to make up for the lack of native births :yes:
This.

MRA’s problem is they don’t have the balls to take on the Jew system with direct action so they much like the kosher right are regarded as a mere annoyance much like flies that can be swatted away or swatted down for now and the foreseeable future.

If they start engaging in revolutionary targeted lone wolf activities however against high value leftist targets ie Jewish and shabbos goyim politians and celebrities only then will things start to get truly interesting.

For now though everyone is too comfortable and cowardly to do anything real and anything that would actually be effective to provoke and produce real political change so the status quo and the shadow bans and deplatformings will continue whenever anyone that opposes the Jewish/leftist agenda starts gaining traction and becoming too popular and influential for the Jews liking.

Oh yeah and it shouldn’t even need to be stated but I will anyway for the more naive youngsters and blue pilled lurkers.

The mainstream political system is completely controlled by the Jews and their shabbos goyim slaves so MRA’s and anyone that wants to create true political change that goes against the leftist or Zionist right wing kosher agendas will simply be shut down and or subverted and or co-opted rendering any political movement that tries to utilize the so called legitimate political system for change via a new political party ineffective.

Hence the only two options left are either a peaceful general strike (which won’t work) or methods similar to Uncle Ted (Kazyncski’s).
 
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Importing more foreigners doesn't work longterm because statistics show that their birthrates go down the shitter just after one generation.
That is to be expected because they consume the same woke nonsense as the natives do and their children grow up to drink from the same poisoned well.

And I see it with my own eyes. Most modern muslims I know are very liberal and their views and lifestyle choices.
They are in fact so liberal that it's sickening. And they do the same damn mental gymnastics as the modern christians do to justify their wrong doing.

Jfl at this.
 
This is a key trial. I fear only the most vile and lowest parts of the humankind will survive.
 
MGTOW is a gen X/older millennial thing.
 
This.

MRA’s problem is they don’t have the balls to take on the Jew system with direct action so they much like the kosher right are regarded as a mere annoyance much like flies that can be swatted away or swatted down for now and the foreseeable future.

If they start engaging in revolutionary targeted lone wolf activities however against high value leftist targets ie Jewish and shabbos goyim politians and celebrities only then will things start to get truly interesting.

For now though everyone is too comfortable and cowardly to do anything real and anything that would actually be effective to provoke and produce real political change so the status quo and the shadows bans and deplatformings will continue.

Oh yeah and it shouldn’t even need to be stated but I will anyway for the more naive youngsters and blue pilled lurkers.

The mainstream political system is completely controlled by the Jews and their shabbos goyim slaves so MRA’s and anyone that wants to create true political change that goes against the leftist or Zionist right wing kosher agendas will simply be shut down and or subverted and or co-opted rendering any political movement that tries to utilize the so called legitimate political system for change via a new political party ineffective.
The illusion of land ownership is one of the greatest scams of the modern era. People spend their lives working, saving, building only to 'own' land they can lose the moment they can’t pay a recurring tax to the very system that enslaves them. Lol at the NPCs who bought into that trap. That’s long term leasing under coercion. And you’re right cause most don’t question it, because they’ve been conditioned not to in NPC factories such as college.
It's all mental conditioning. Generations have been broken by post war guilt, consumerism, and bread/circus distractions. Their pride, their will to resist was systematically erased.
 
Most modern muslims I know are very liberal and their views and lifestyle choices.
Yep I see it in my own family the only reason most Muslim countries haven't been affected is cause the countries are underdeveloped
 
The illusion of land ownership is one of the greatest scams of the modern era. People spend their lives working, saving, building only to 'own' land they can lose the moment they can’t pay a recurring tax to the very system that enslaves them. Lol at the NPCs who bought into that trap. That’s long term leasing under coercion. And you’re right cause most don’t question it, because they’ve been conditioned not to in NPC factories such as college.
It's all mental conditioning. Generations have been broken by post war guilt, consumerism, and bread/circus distractions. Their pride, their will to resist was systematically erased.
@TooSomething this reply was meant for you, sorry.
 
That is to be expected because they consume the same woke nonsense as the natives do and their children grow up to drink from the same poisoned well.

And I see it with my own eyes. Most modern muslims I know are very liberal and their views and lifestyle choices.
They are in fact so liberal that it's sickening. And they do the same damn mental gymnastics as the modern christians do to justify their wrong doing.

Jfl at this.
Muslim women like getting fucked in the ass and doing oral, while avoiding vaginal sex so they can claim to be ''virgins'' technically lmao :feelskek:
 
maybe cUcK and Jewrope governments but not really
 
Muslim women like getting fucked in the ass and doing oral, while avoiding vaginal sex so they can claim to be ''virgins'' technically lmao :feelskek:
They actually did that in the country I was born in. Won't say which, but I was not born in Europe.

I was born in an islamic country and lived there for a while.
My parents were born and raised there. Second world war, deportation, soviet union etc. .

They've witnessed it all.

My mom told me how she witnessed several muslims foids in hospital getting their assholes fixed because they got fucked up the ass a bit to hard.
And yes, they did that to not loose their virginity.

That's what bad education does to a motherfucker ... .
 
This.

MRA’s problem is they don’t have the balls to take on the Jew system with direct action so they much like the kosher right are regarded as a mere annoyance much like flies that can be swatted away or swatted down for now and the foreseeable future.

If they start engaging in revolutionary targeted lone wolf activities however against high value leftist targets ie Jewish and shabbos goyim politians and celebrities only then will things start to get truly interesting.

For now though everyone is too comfortable and cowardly to do anything real and anything that would actually be effective to provoke and produce real political change so the status quo and the shadow bans and deplatformings will continue whenever anyone that opposes the Jewish/leftist agenda starts gaining traction and becoming too popular and influential for the Jews liking.

Oh yeah and it shouldn’t even need to be stated but I will anyway for the more naive youngsters and blue pilled lurkers.

The mainstream political system is completely controlled by the Jews and their shabbos goyim slaves so MRA’s and anyone that wants to create true political change that goes against the leftist or Zionist right wing kosher agendas will simply be shut down and or subverted and or co-opted rendering any political movement that tries to utilize the so called legitimate political system for change via a new political party ineffective.

Hence the only two options left are either a peaceful general strike (which won’t work) or methods similar to Uncle Ted (Kazyncski’s).
The system is structurally designed to absorb, neuter, or destroy any movement that threatens its ideological core. MRAs, mainstream conservatives, even populist uprisings, all of them are caged within narratives allowed by those who shape public perception and policy. It's civilizational sabotage. It’s the systematic uprooting of identity, the erasure of history, the inversion of values. And most people including well meaning dissidents, are still trapped in the illusion that reform is possible from within. The real path forward is replacement. Not just of institutions, but of the moral and spiritual foundation of people with things no consumerist society will teach. Parallel institutions are only the surface, beneath that we need a rebirth of meaning, myth, and memory, aka a total rejection of the modern lie.
 

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