I've been seeing a lot of hate between incels and MGTOW. I think it's down to both groups misunderstanding eachother, and also coping on both sides. Let's take a look at what MGTOW is all about.
What is MGTOW?
MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way. It's a very diverse group of men from many different ethnic groups, nationalities, ages, looks levels. The core ideology of MGTOW is that they avoid marriage, cohabitation and most long-term relationships with women because of the gynocentric legal system and the unreliable solipsistic nature of women, especially in Western culture.
MGTOW men may or may not engage in sexual or romantic relationships with women. It depends on the individual, his goals, desires, capabilities (looks, status, game etc) and willingness to endure risk (false rape accusations, STDs, spermjacking etc). But usually a MGTOW will keep women at arms length and never get too close for her to insert a bluepill suppository or take advantage of him through the legal system.
MGTOW also loathes simps, white knights, betacucks and other degenerates who worship women and keep the gynocracy in power.
Who is the average MGTOW?
From my observations, the average MGTOW is a normie between the ages of 25-50, who has been divorce raped by his wife, cucked by Chad or been falsely accused of rape or domestic violence. He has first hand experienced the true nature of women.
Many MGTOWs have been close to going the way of the rope from having their children taken away, their lifes work donated to a roastie and basically humiliated by the legal system.
Are MGTOWs just incels in denial?
I would say the opposite is more true. Incels are MGTOWs in denial. Because incels are forced to go their own way. Most incels will never be normies or Chads, not even with plastic surgery and looksmaxxing. So why even try? Go your own way, or go the way of the rope.
Some incels can maybe become a betabux moneyslave to a roastie, but will still never experience the kind of love and companionship he expects. Most men never will, because women can't love men that way. Women only love men for what they can provide, whether that's money, status, tingles or genetics.
If Chad Thundercock is in a car accident that rearranges his face, his gf will leave him and women will shun him like an incel. If Betabux Norman loses his job and is unable to sustain his wifes lifestyle, she will divorce him and take the kids with her. That's what happens when society gives women power.
Are MGTOWs black pilled?
1-2 years ago MGTOWs were still denying the reality of lookism and how much it affects society. They were money coping, that girls are only interested in money.
But nowadays most of them seem to accept lookism and it's role in the sexual marketplace. I think it's largely thanks to the genetically superior r/Incels memes and other black pill research.
Even MGTOW YouTubers no longer seem to deny it.
Who are some popular MGTOWs on YouTube?
MGTOW 101, Sandman and Turd Flinging Monkey (TFM) are the big three. Another one that I like is Kris Cantu. I can probably most relate to Sandman, TFM is the funniest and Kris really knows how to pump you up and motivate.
Should MGTOW and incels hate eachother?
Definitely not. We are both suffering from the same things: gynocentrism and white knight cuckery.
I think a lot of MGTOWs would like to have a wife and family, and many of them do have children. But with the current legal situation, degenerate culture and female nature, it's like putting your dick in a blender. A terrible idea.
I believe most MGTOW agree that patriarchy or transhumanism is the way to go. Either take away women's rights and give men authority over them once again, or we transcend the need for women through genetic engineering, artificial wombs, sexbots, VR and so on.
