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Got chatting with this dude in private after talking with him on a dating sub reddit.

He sent me this.

"Look, you incels are right to a ppint. Women do prioritise physical traits above all else. They then play a bunch of mental gymnastics to pretend it's other traits that draw them to guys. Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.

As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"

Thoughts?
 
All of his faulty points come from not understanding that hypergamy is a thing.
 
Problem is that men are the same
women almost universally date up while men have to settle for what they can get
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Problem is that men are the same
We are not the same
As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"
You have no clue how genetically incapable we are. IF you looked at our faces your opinion would change
 
As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare
cope if you’re ugly plus you have other bad traits it’s over
 
Got chatting with this dude in private after talking with him on a dating sub reddit.

He sent me this.

"Look, you incels are right to a ppint. Women do prioritise physical traits above all else. They then play a bunch of mental gymnastics to pretend it's other traits that draw them to guys. Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.

As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"

Thoughts?
Men find most women attractive while women only find the top elite men attractive, so comparing mens standard of attraction to women's is stupid. Also he's straight up wrong, almost anyone here would happily date a good 3/10 woman, issue is those women are chad only like all the rest.

Looksmaxxing is bullshit, you are either born with the right skull shape and good strength genes or you are not. Gym will only really help you if you already have good enough genes to become attractive, most people here do not. Too short, bad skull/jaw, bad hair, exc cannot be fixed by a gym.
 
Gym will only really help you if you already have good enough genes to become attractive, most people here do not. Too short, bad skull/jaw, bad hair, exc cannot be fixed by a gym.
 
Problem is that men are the same!
no! this retard doesn't understand that foids are way more selective for evolutionary reasons. This is why you have incels , and no true femcels. Foids that "can't" find someone, are foids who just can't get comitment from chads.
 
Just gym to fix your recessed jaw, scoliosis, manlettism, shit frame, fucked up eye area, and slav nose brooooo!!!! :soy:

can't even workout due to chronic illness anyway :feelstastyman:
 
All foids can get laid on demand, men are not the same.

Also baldjanitormeme.exe for the self improvement and showering part
 
Men find most women attractive while women only find the top elite men attractive, so comparing mens standard of attraction to women's is stupid. Also he's straight up wrong, almost anyone here would happily date a good 3/10 woman, issue is those women are chad only like all the rest.

Looksmaxxing is bullshit, you are either born with the right skull shape and good strength genes or you are not. Gym will only really help you if you already have good enough genes to become attractive, most people here do not. Too short, bad skull/jaw, bad hair, exc cannot be fixed by a gym.
your Cranofacial development isn’t based on your genetics but rather environment
 
your Cranofacial development isn’t based on your genetics but rather environment
I'm pretty sure it's a mix of both, like all things
 
I'm pretty sure it's a mix of both, like all things
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If not breastfeeded enough and no access to hard food at young age = over + relying on getting surgeries :cryfeels::feelscry:
 
As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"
The only possible way to escape inceldom is through cosmetic surgery, and even that isn't guaranteed to work. Looksmaxxing and gymmaxxing won't fix or reverse shitty genetics. Looksmaxxing will be futile if you were born with predominantly unattractive features or developed them overtime with bad habits, and the same goes for gymmaxxing if you have a bad frame. There are such things as unfixable failos
 
Fuck that reddit fagh, I hate everyone fuck hoes I hate them so much why cant I get a gf?
 
Got chatting with this dude in private after talking with him on a dating sub reddit.

He sent me this.

"Look, you incels are right to a ppint. Women do prioritise physical traits above all else. They then play a bunch of mental gymnastics to pretend it's other traits that draw them to guys. Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.

Men are honest about it.

As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"

Thoughts?

It's decent enough advice for 5-7 tier guys.
 
Call me what you will but I want women to go extinct it might cost humanity but oh fucking well.
 
He's probably just a HTN who thought he was an incel
 
What a bunch of bullshit, just the point saying men and women are the same is absolutely braindead
 
Got chatting with this dude in private after talking with him on a dating sub reddit.

He sent me this.

"Look, you incels are right to a ppint. Women do prioritise physical traits above all else. They then play a bunch of mental gymnastics to pretend it's other traits that draw them to guys. Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.

As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"

Thoughts?
He contradicts himself. I stopped reading after "men are the same!"
 
He's probably just a HTN who thought he was an incel
some guys think they're incels for a drought they had, and just like they they go back and forth.
 
Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.
It's always the same lies. Or is he only referring to some Chads like foids do all the time?
Men are totally different and they make endless compromises for foids. They date toilets who are far from being their looksmatch. They simp for ugly and fat foids. On the other hand, which Foid is dating an “ugly” man (= her looksmatch) or even below?
Exactly, none.
 
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Got chatting with this dude in private after talking with him on a dating sub reddit.

He sent me this.

"Look, you incels are right to a ppint. Women do prioritise physical traits above all else. They then play a bunch of mental gymnastics to pretend it's other traits that draw them to guys. Problem is that men are the same! So it's hypocritical to complain about it and hate women for it.

As for escaping inceldom. The gym and grooming are your friends. A lot of incels will have no issue getting decent looking women if they really commit to working out and looksmaxing. It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s. Fact is that true incels are very rare"

Thoughts?
The problem with the last part is that if it were true someone like me wouldn't be here
 
It worked for me after a period of no attention in my mid-20s
Betabuxxing is no ascension.
You can't change your genetics.
I guess he's some normie/high tier normie at least. For guys like him it might work (looksmaxxing). But I doubt that he gets what Chad had for free in his teens and early 20s..
 
Men find most women attractive while women only find the top elite men attractive, so comparing mens standard of attraction to women's is stupid. Also he's straight up wrong, almost anyone here would happily date a good 3/10 woman, issue is those women are chad only like all the rest.

Looksmaxxing is bullshit, you are either born with the right skull shape and good strength genes or you are not. Gym will only really help you if you already have good enough genes to become attractive, most people here do not. Too short, bad skull/jaw, bad hair, exc cannot be fixed by a gym.
Very true :yes: :yes: :bigbrain:
 
I sent him a link to this thread. He just replied.

"Okay, so I only stated that men and women are similarly focused on physical traits when it comes to dating. I don't disagree that women receive more attention, tend to date up, etc. However, they also face more harassment, and the interpersonal violence they experience through dating is more harmful than men experience.

I also did not deny that some men are a lost cause. But they are very few. Most men underestimate how attractive they are or how attractive they could become with extra grooming"
 
I agree with him that all humans are lookist. Beyond that, no. He likely found women willing to use him after running through Chads in their college years, which is the case for many normies.
 
After I started taking regular showers and attending therapy. I went from a 5'2" balding Indian janitor to a tall good looking white jock.
 
I wonder what his opinion are on the ones like me who’ve gymaxxed, gotten bigger and cleaned myself up from the self destructive shit like alcohol only to end up in the same place i was prior.
 

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