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This “alienation” (to use a term which will be comprehensible to the philosophers) can, of course, only be abolished given two practical premises. For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,” and produced, at the same time, the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development. And, on the other hand, this development of productive forces (which itself implies the actual empirical existence of men in their world-historical, instead of local, being) is an absolutely necessary practical premise because without it want is merely made general, and with destitution the struggle for necessities and all the old filthy business would necessarily be reproduced; and furthermore, because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition), makes each nation dependent on the revolutions of the others, and finally has put world-historical, empirically universal individuals in place of local ones. Without this, (1) communism could only exist as a local event; (2) the forces of intercourse themselves could not have developed as universal, hence intolerable powers: they would have remained home-bred conditions surrounded by superstition; and (3) each extension of intercourse would abolish local communism. Empirically, communism is only possible as the act of the dominant peoples “all at once” and simultaneously, which presupposes the universal development of productive forces and the world intercourse bound up with communism. Moreover, the mass of propertyless workers – the utterly precarious position of labour – power on a mass scale cut off from capital or from even a limited satisfaction and, therefore, no longer merely temporarily deprived of work itself as a secure source of life – presupposes the world market through competition. The proletariat can thus only exist world-historically, just as communism, its activity, can only have a “world-historical” existence. World-historical existence of individuals means existence of individuals which is directly linked up with world history.

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

- Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1844

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Most of the users here are probably reactionary politically, and certainly opposed to what they call Cultural Marxism., which they assume is intended to user in Marxist Communism or something.

Marx himself completely discounts this possibility.

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas; hence of the relationships which make the one class the ruling one, therefore, the ideas of its dominance. The individuals composing the ruling class possess among other things consciousness, and therefore think. Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch. For instance, in an age and in a country where royal power, aristocracy, and bourgeoisie are contending for mastery and where, therefore, mastery is shared, the doctrine of the separation of powers proves to be the dominant idea and is expressed as an “eternal law.”

The division of labour, which we already saw above as one of the chief forces of history up till now, manifests itself also in the ruling class as the division of mental and material labour, so that inside this class one part appears as the thinkers of the class (its active, conceptive ideologists, who make the perfecting of the illusion of the class about itself their chief source of livelihood), while the others’ attitude to these ideas and illusions is more passive and receptive, because they are in reality the active members of this class and have less time to make up illusions and ideas about themselves. Within this class this cleavage can even develop into a certain opposition and hostility between the two parts, which, however, in the case of a practical collision, in which the class itself is endangered, automatically comes to nothing, in which case there also vanishes the semblance that the ruling ideas were not the ideas of the ruling class and had a power distinct from the power of this class. The existence of revolutionary ideas in a particular period presupposes the existence of a revolutionary class; about the premises for the latter sufficient has already been said above.

If now in considering the course of history we detach the ideas of the ruling class from the ruling class itself and attribute to them an independent existence, if we confine ourselves to saying that these or those ideas were dominant at a given time, without bothering ourselves about the conditions of production and the producers of these ideas, if we thus ignore the individuals and world conditions which are the source of the ideas, we can say, for instance, that during the time that the aristocracy was dominant, the concepts honour, loyalty, etc. were dominant, during the dominance of the bourgeoisie the concepts freedom, equality, etc. The ruling class itself on the whole imagines this to be so. This conception of history, which is common to all historians, particularly since the eighteenth century, will necessarily come up against the phenomenon that increasingly abstract ideas hold sway, i.e. ideas which increasingly take on the form of universality. For each new class which puts itself in the place of one ruling before it, is compelled, merely in order to carry through its aim, to represent its interest as the common interest of all the members of society, that is, expressed in ideal form: it has to give its ideas the form of universality, and represent them as the only rational, universally valid ones. The class making a revolution appears from the very start, if only because it is opposed to a class, not as a class but as the representative of the whole of society; it appears as the whole mass of society confronting the one ruling class. —

This us the nature of wokeism etc. - a tool to split the working class and prove the "fairness" of the bourgeois system of production, and to prevent any anti-capitalist outbursts among the oppressed by ameliorating hem with identity politics.
 
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Communism is judaism.


 
gaycel what's your point?
I won't read that tldr post

My point is that Marx predicts something called immiseration, or the stripping away of property from the working class by the capitalists. Again:

For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,” and produced, at the same time, the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development.


This the Great Reset. It is not Communism but it is a necessary precondition for it. It is driven by the tendency of the rate of profit to fall (the rate of profit =/= actual overall profits, which are obscured by inflation).

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The current state of modern "leftism" is quite pathetic; degenerates, foids becoming socialists purely for the aesthetic appeal, mentally ill crossdressers, homosexuals, bluepilled orbiters, etc.... :feelswhat:

Though I don't put myself anywhere on the traditional political "spectrum", due to subhumans naturally having a wide range of opinions on different topics, I wouldn't be opposed to shutting down the shekel-hoarding, hypergamy-promoting elites controlling the modern world. :feelshehe:

@Indracel
 
My point is that Marx predicts something called immiseration, or the stripping away of property from the working class by the capitalists. Again:



Thi s the Great Reset. It is not Communism but it is a necessary precondition for it.
Yes it makes sense, I see....
 
The current state of modern "leftism" is quite pathetic; degenerates, foids becoming socialists purely for the aesthetic appeal, mentally ill crossdressers, homosexuals, bluepilled orbiters, etc.... :feelswhat:

Though I don't put myself anywhere on the traditional political "spectrum", due to subhumans naturally having a wide range of opinions on different topics, I wouldn't be opposed to shutting down the shekel-hoarding, hypergamy-promoting elites controlling the modern world. :feelshehe:

@Indracel

The thing is, what actually controls the modern world is a social abstraction. It's Capital. Capital is a pseudosentient organism, a man-made God.

May I recommend r/stupidpol?

 
Marxism/Socialisms forces everyone to work. I just want a SocDem that brings in social safety nets so I can NEET in peace. Fuck communism.
 
The current state of modern "leftism" is quite pathetic; degenerates, foids becoming socialists purely for the aesthetic appeal, mentally ill crossdressers, homosexuals, bluepilled orbiters, etc.... :feelswhat:

I wouldn't be opposed to shutting down the shekel-hoarding, hypergamy-promoting elites controlling the modern world. :feelshehe:

@Indracel
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- Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1844

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Most of the users here are probably reactionary politically, and certainly opposed to what they call Cultural Marxism., which they assume is intended to user in Marxist Communism or something.

Marx himself completely discounts this possibility.



This us the nature of wokeism etc. - a tool to split the working class and prove the "fairness" of the bourgeois system of production, and to prevent any anti-capitalist outbursts among the oppressed by ameliorating hem with identity politics.
Ok GrAY
 
Marxism/Socialisms forces everyone to work. .

In all the previous revolutions the mode of activity always remained unchanged and it was only a question of a different distribution of this activity, a new distribution of labour to other persons, whilst the communist revolution is directed against the hitherto existing mode of activity, does away with labour.


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The German Ideology

While the fleeing serfs only wished to freely develop and fully realise the conditions of existence, which were already at sight, and hence, in the end, only arrived at free labour, the proletarians, if they are to fulfill themselves as individuals, must abolish the very condition of their existence hitherto, which has also been the condition of existence of all society up to the present, that is, they must abolish labour.
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The German Ideolgy

Labour is free in all civilized countries [that is, it has become wage labour — labour that can be freely sold by its owner]; [in the communist society] it is not a matter of freeing labour but rather of abolishing it.


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The German Ideology
 
incels are the vanguard of the communist movement :feelsautistic:
 
Marxism is a fucking joke. A person I teach english in China to says that everyone hates having to take the mandatory marxism class
 
Marxism is a fucking joke. A person I teach english in China to says that everyone hates having to take the mandatory marxism class
China is of course capitalist as shit. It is all very confusing, but


 
Woulda just wipe the floor with ya "politicians" if not was so subpar in amerikanskii language
 
- Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1844

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Most of the users here are probably reactionary politically, and certainly opposed to what they call Cultural Marxism., which they assume is intended to user in Marxist Communism or something.

Marx himself completely discounts this possibility.



This us the nature of wokeism etc. - a tool to split the working class and prove the "fairness" of the bourgeois system of production, and to prevent any anti-capitalist outbursts among the oppressed by ameliorating hem with identity politics.
Perhaps we should collaborate on something. I'm currently fusing Blackpill science with Marxist Political Economy to create something I call "Bloodpilled". Would be interested to hear your feedback, comrade.
 
Perhaps we should collaborate on something. I'm currently fusing Blackpill science with Marxist Political Economy to create something I call "Bloodpilled". Would be interested to hear your feedback, comrade.

Incels are simply a product of capitalist alienation. Alienation doesn't just mean, I dunno, being socially rejected though. It has a more cold determined meaning - you are alienated because you don't control the fruits of your own labor.
 
Incels are simply a product of capitalist alienation. Alienation doesn't just mean, I dunno, being socially rejected though. It has a more cold determined meaning - you are alienated because you don't control the fruits of your own labor.
I am well aware. What I am thinking is that real class-alienation (in the Marxian sense) driven by individualistic commodity culture drives a different form of social alienation, I.E. the condition of Inceldom, as the economic base of capitalist production directly effects the hypergamous superstructure. It's simple dialectics really.
 
I am well aware. What I am thinking is that real class-alienation (in the Marxian sense) driven by individualistic commodity culture drives a different form of social alienation, I.E. the condition of Inceldom, as the economic base of capitalist production directly effects the hypergamous superstructure. It's simple dialectics really.

Possibly. My guess is that as Capital continues to strip productive property from the proletariat and denies then the possibility of advancement in any sense, you will see a proto-communalisn sprout up as the natural and normal state if affairs for workers, which will probably entail polygamous relations at its base. Modern hypergamy is likely an antecedent to this.
 
I am well aware. What I am thinking is that real class-alienation (in the Marxian sense) driven by individualistic commodity culture drives a different form of social alienation, I.E. the condition of Inceldom, as the economic base of capitalist production directly effects the hypergamous superstructure. It's simple dialectics really.
Moreover, I seperate 'Modes of Production' (Social form of organizing production in a given stage of society) From what I call 'Modes of Reproduction' (Socio-Sexual relations pertaining to things like the family unit under feudalism, it's eroding and dismantlement via capitalist relations which have been heightened by commoditarian trends such as internet culture and online dating phenomena). I'm still writing on this theory
 
Possibly. My guess is that as Capital continues to strip productive property from the proletariat and denies then the possibility of advancement in any sense, you will see a proto-communalisn sprout up as the natural and normal state if affairs for workers, which will probably entail polygamous relations at its base. Modern hypergamy is likely an antecedent to this.
I would agree there. Unfortunately hypergamy is the natural result of the free market, as is alienation the result of capitalist production, and indeed I would say socialised production would necessarily entail socialised reproduction. I envision it as a form of re-imagined collective family unit, although it would fundamentally differ from antiquated family units in some form.
 
The current state of modern "leftism" is quite pathetic; degenerates, foids becoming socialists purely for the aesthetic appeal, mentally ill crossdressers, homosexuals, bluepilled orbiters, etc.... :feelswhat:
Which is why it is by no measure unreasonable to suggest separation of Scientific-Socialism from the Liberal-Bourgeois counterculture that has infiltrated worker's movements and trivialised revolutionary politics with identitarian trends. Hence the Old/New Left divide, as the New Left is entirely a product of the Central Intellegence Agency bastardizing the old and more rational.
Juche Korea may not be the most orthodox in it's adherence to traditional Leninist doctrine but it fuses Socialism with Anti-Degeneracy in a successful manner. Nato has degeneracy with it's supposedly superior system, yet Juche Korea preserves cultural sanity with Juche. The math here is strikingly clear.
 
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Everything is historically necessary, though. The Owl of Minerva flies at dusk - upon revolution it will become apparent why history's played out as it has.
The Old Left, for example, produced gems like this:

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Everything is historically necessary, though. The Owl of Minerva flies at dusk - upon revolution it will become apparent why history's played out as it has.
Naturally.
 
My interpretation of Marxism is that Marx had an overly materialistic philosophy of human socio-economic evolution.

My understanding of human nature and evolution is that biology and quantum physics controls history and is responsible for the direction and evolution of human history.

Marx's understanding was that the evolution of human societies was governed by economics and exploitation. That was his inevitable way of viewing things because that was the generation that he grew up in and viewed everything through his generation's lense.

All in all the Jews of Europe were the original ethnicels imo, thus they conjured up communism to be able to have access to white pussy. It worked in the Soviet Union, later in Europe and to a lesser extent, America.
 
My interpretation of Marxism is that Marx had an overly materialistic philosophy of human socio-economic evolution.

My understanding of human nature and evolution is that biology and quantum physics controls history and is responsible for the direction and evolution of human history.
Among humans, economics determines biology.

Also, Marx will be shown to have gotten the economics of it entirely right.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8rAiTDQ-NVY

For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,” and produced, at the same time, the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development.

The Great Reset is Marx's immiseration thesis wrapped up in the slogans of what Marx called bourgeois socialism:

A part of the bourgeoisie is desirous of redressing social grievances in order to secure the continued existence of bourgeois society.

To this section belong economists, philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind. This form of socialism has, moreover, been worked out into complete systems.

We may cite Proudhon’s Philosophie de la Misère as an example of this form.

The Socialistic bourgeois want all the advantages of modern social conditions without the struggles and dangers necessarily resulting therefrom. They desire the existing state of society, minus its revolutionary and disintegrating elements. They wish for a bourgeoisie without a proletariat. The bourgeoisie naturally conceives the world in which it is supreme to be the best; and bourgeois Socialism develops this comfortable conception into various more or less complete systems. In requiring the proletariat to carry out such a system, and thereby to march straightway into the social New Jerusalem, it but requires in reality, that the proletariat should remain within the bounds of existing society, but should cast away all its hateful ideas concerning the bourgeoisie.

A second, and more practical, but less systematic, form of this Socialism sought to depreciate every revolutionary movement in the eyes of the working class by showing that no mere political reform, but only a change in the material conditions of existence, in economical relations, could be of any advantage to them. By changes in the material conditions of existence, this form of Socialism, however, by no means understands abolition of the bourgeois relations of production, an abolition that can be affected only by a revolution, but administrative reforms, based on the continued existence of these relations; reforms, therefore, that in no respect affect the relations between capital and labour, but, at the best, lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative work, of bourgeois government.

Bourgeois Socialism attains adequate expression when, and only when, it becomes a mere figure of speech.

Free trade: for the benefit of the working class. Protective duties: for the benefit of the working class. Prison Reform: for the benefit of the working class. This is the last word and the only seriously meant word of bourgeois socialism.

It is summed up in the phrase: the bourgeois is a bourgeois — for the benefit of the working class.
 
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My interpretation of Marxism is that Marx had an overly materialistic philosophy of human socio-economic evolution.

My understanding of human nature and evolution is that biology and quantum physics controls history and is responsible for the direction and evolution of human history.

Marx's understanding was that the evolution of human societies was governed by economics and exploitation. That was his inevitable way of viewing things because that was the generation that he grew up in and viewed everything through his generation's lense.

All in all the Jews of Europe were the original ethnicels imo, thus they conjured up communism to be able to have access to white pussy. It worked in the Soviet Union, later in Europe and to a lesser extent, America.
Not quite. Marx explicitly denounced what he called "Vulgar Materialism" which basically says that material conditions alone are entirely deterministic of human social conditions. He explicitly rejected this idea in favor of Dialectical Materialism, which instead states that material conditions influence human activity, which in turn influences material conditions in a mutal, dialectical relationship to one another.

Just because he focused on studying material conditions does not by any means imply that he was a determinist; no more than being a psychologist implies a belief in psychological determinism, all other things being rejected.

Moreover, he also explicitly recognized that this was also not deterministic. He recognized that human societies are also effected by things like nature etc. He also recognized that human labor was not the sole source of value in commodities, merely the primary component, and nevertheless his economic predictions pertaining to capitalism remain to this day proven correct and true.
 
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Not quite. Marx explicitly denounced what he called "Vulgar Materialism" which basically says that material conditions alone are entirely deterministic of human social conditions. He explicitly rejected this idea in favor of Dialectical Materialism, which instead states that material conditions influence human activity, which in turn influences material conditions in a mutal, dialectical relationship to one another.

Just because he focused on studying material conditions does not by any means imply that he was a determinist; no more than being a psychologist implies a belief in psychological determinism, all other things being rejected.

Moreover, he also explicitly recognized that this was also not deterministic. He recognized that human societies are also effected by things like nature etc. He also recognized that human labor was not the sole source of value in commodities, and nevertheless his economic predictions pertaining to capitalism remain to this day proven correct and true.
Marxism was an atheistic materialist view of history. His entire books went on and on about materialism, economics, and class. I did not have time or care to read about materialism or economics. I simply don't find it interesting.

Marxism is prevalent today in most of western society. Especially cultural marxism. Everything is a commodity. Labor is a commodity and devalued. Hence, everyone's a damn slave. Speculation and gambling in housing and the stock market is the law of the economy. The only way for prices in the stock market to rise is for there to be an expansion of the money supply aka more printing.

It made sense for Marx to have an overly materialistic economic view of history. Money hides or lessens the ugly side of human nature. Which is cruel, unfair, and brutal. He had a Jewish identity and wanted to rally the working class non jews against the upper class non jews . That is why he had an overly materialistic economic view of history and just ignored the fact that individual nations are tied by history, culture, blood, and religion (which overrides any silly and shallow economic struggle between the classes within those nations).
 
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Marxism is prevalent today in most of western society. Especially cultural marxism. Everything is a commodity. Labor is a commodity and devalued. Hence, everyone's a damn slave.
It's like you see capitalism and say "see? That's Marxism!"

Marx absolutely understood that economics was paramount in human society, and he was right to do so.

Cultural Marxism does not exist in the way you think it does, which is to say in a plot-to-undermine-muh-white-males sense. The OG "Cultural Marxists" like Horkheimer were concerned with cultural degeneration under capitalism.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X98uzqpQ3JM

Marxism doesn't even work this way.

It is not a question of what this or that proletarian, or even the whole proletariat, at the moment regards as its aim. It is a question of what the proletariat is, and what, in accordance with this being, it will historically be compelled to do. Its aim and historical action is visibly and irrevocably foreshadowed in its own life situation as well as in the whole organization of bourgeois society today.

- The Holy Family, Marx, 1845
individual nations are tied by history, culture, blood, and religion

So naïve. Families tear themselves apart over money. Do you think nations do not do the same?
 
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Marxism was an atheistic materialist view of history. His entire books went on and on about materialism, economics, and class. I did not have time or care to read about materialism or economics. I simply don't find it interesting.
If you can't bother to read, don't bother to write. And don't expect to be taken seriously as a consequence, simple as.
 
The means of sex production (aka FOIDS) should be seized by the state and redistributed to people in the need (aka INCELS).
Marxism is the only way to get state-mandated girlfriends.
 
The means of sex production (aka FOIDS) should be seized by the state and redistributed to people in the need (aka INCELS).
Marxism is the only way to get state-mandated girlfriends.
Amen. The means of reproduction must be collectivized, and a new kind of 1:1 social family unit be instated via Kulturkammer so as to end hypergamy. Hypergamy is inherently unstable and unsustainable, and, like capitalism, has outlived it's historical purpose and must therefore be replaced with a new system. :feelsstudy:
 
Amen. The means of reproduction must be collectivized, and a new kind of 1:1 social family unit be instated via Kulturkammer so as to end hypergamy. Hypergamy is inherently unstable and unsustainable, and, like capitalism, has outlived it's historical purpose and must therefore be replaced with a new system. :feelsstudy:
Hope this will happen bro :feelsYall:
 
Communism is the brainwashing for the goyim

Marx didn't believe in converting people ideologically at all.
It is not a question of what this or that proletarian, or even the whole proletariat, at the moment regards as its aim.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/03/fictitious-splits.htm

The first phase of the proletariat’s struggle against the bourgeoisie is marked by a sectarian movement. That is logical at a time when the proletariat has not yet developed sufficiently to act as a class. Certain thinkers criticize social antagonisms and suggest fantastic solutions thereof, which the mass of workers is left to accept, preach, and put into practice. The sects formed by these initiators are abstentionist by their very nature — i.e., alien to all real action, politics, strikes, coalitions, or, in a word, to any united movement. The mass of the proletariat always remains indifferent or even hostile to their propaganda. The Paris and Lyon workers did not want the St.-Simonists, the Fourierists, the Icarians, any more than the Chartists and the English trade unionists wanted the Owenites. These sects act as levers of the movement in the beginning, but become an obstruction as soon as the movement outgrows them; after which they became reactionary
 
This. Karl Marx was a jew, Rosa Luxemburg was jewish, Trotzky was jewish, Yemelyan Yaroslavsky (leader of the League of Militant Atheists) was jewish

And so on
Friedrich Engels was not Jewish, Joseph Dietzgen was not Jewish, Vladimir Lenin was not Jewish, Joseph Stalin was not Jewish, Ho Chi Minh was not Jewish, Fidel Castro was not Jewish, Mao Zedong was not Jewish, Josip Tito was not Jewish, Amadeo Bordiga was not Jewish, Ernst Thalmann was not Jewish, Louis Althusser was not Jewish, Franz Fanon was not Jewish, . etc. You people are literally fucking retarded.
 
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If you can't bother to read, don't bother to write. And don't expect to be taken seriously as a consequence, simple as.
You can try to feel smart or think you're smart talking about Marxism all you want. People have their differing interpretations of it whether you like it or not.
 
You can try to feel smart or think you're smart talking about Marxism all you want. People have their differing interpretations of it whether you like it or not.
Dumbshit, uninformed ones.
 
You can try to feel smart or think you're smart talking about Marxism all you want. People have their differing interpretations of it whether you like it or not.
Arrogant, infantile mis-interpretations structured by cognitive dissonance and supreme autistic retardation. Dnr tbh
 
- Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1844

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Most of the users here are probably reactionary politically, and certainly opposed to what they call Cultural Marxism., which they assume is intended to user in Marxist Communism or something.

Marx himself completely discounts this possibility.



This us the nature of wokeism etc. - a tool to split the working class and prove the "fairness" of the bourgeois system of production, and to prevent any anti-capitalist outbursts among the oppressed by ameliorating hem with identity politics.
First of all, its nice to see the use of marxism for Incel goals. There really shouldn't be any instrument we musn't use for some reason (and in most cases that reason adheres to some bs abstract concept)

I would also like to ask, as I am not the brightest, and lack knowledge and ability to firmly grasp ideas:

What does it mean to not be alienated from the fruits of my labour? I feel like this can be easily a very hard thing to safeguard since it begs many questions.
 
First of all, its nice to see the use of marxism for Incel goals. There really shouldn't be any instrument we musn't use for some reason (and in most cases that reason adheres to some bs abstract concept)

I would also like to ask, as I am not the brightest, and lack knowledge and ability to firmly grasp ideas:

What does it mean to not be alienated from the fruits of my labour? I feel like this can be easily a very hard thing to safeguard since it begs many questions.
Alienation for Marx is a very real phenomenon baked into the literal physics structure of capitalist society, and not merely a psychological state. You are physically alienated from the sources of production by property rights; you are prevented from access to the things you require by the whole edifice of capitalist production - Communism is direct production for social need, and not exchange (part of the reason that the Soviet Union was never Communist - Lenin called it State capitalist).
 
Alienation for Marx is a very real phenomenon baked into the literal physics structure of capitalist society, and not merely a psychological state. You are physically alienated from the sources of production by property rights; you are prevented from access to the things you require by the whole edifice of capitalist production - Communism is direct production for social need, and not exchange (part of the reason that the Soviet Union was never Communist - Lenin called it State capitalist).
Ok.
 

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