Mark Rippetoe (Starting strength creator) has created a fuckton of incels.

[ReturnOfSaddam]

I'm not sure if it's still the case but when I started lifting about 8-9 years ago, the go-to routine was starting strength. Part of this routine is often drinking a gallon of milk, which contains about 2500 calories. Unless you are Auschwitz tier, that is INSANELY fucking stupid. The average guy with a a bit of love handles should just go to the gym a little bit, increase his protein intake but his main focus should be LOSING weight, unless you want to end up looking like Jason Blaha.

I truly believe that the average person has absolute garbage genetics for building muscle. Bulking is a meme tbh, most people are just going to get fat.

@Gymcelled

 

[Subhuman Currycel]

Keep crying for my favourite uberChad Blaha

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

There is no 'bulking' for natural bodybuilders

Bulking and cutting were terms popularized by professional bodybuilders in the golden era because they actually had the ability to gain rapid amounts of muscle (Bulking) and lose huge amounts of fat (cutting) in a short span of time (because of anabolic steroids)

A natural can at best expect to gain 2-3 lbs of lean muscle every month, and that number rapidly decreases after every year of lifting

 

[FrothySolutions]

GOMAD isn't what's wrong with Starting Strength, there are /fit/izens who've actually LOST weight on 2500 calories. Because they didn't realize they were also supposed to eat food in addition to that gallon of milk a day.

Starting Strength fails because it's too lower body heavy. You get "T-Rex mode" from Starting Strength.

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

Keep crying for my favourite uberChad Blaha
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JFL I legit can't believe he looks that bad. Guy's been training for decades and blasting gear just as long. Looks legit terible.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

He is the biggest meme out there. Just eat more bro, just drink gallons of milk bro, you gotta eat bro, squats and deadlifts bro.

Jfl I watch his youtube videos for shits and giggles. He is based and stupid at the same time.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

It's really quite simple how much muscle you can add natty...

Average genetics

Small frame: 25-30lbs
Medium frame: 30-35lbs
Large frame: 35-45lbs

70% of your muscle will be added in the first 18 months.

Even with great genetics 50lbs+ is practically impossible without gear. Arnold Schwarzenegger only added 55lbs to his frame (peak 245lbs bodyweight at 6ft1). At his peak weight at 23 he'd already been training 9 years. He was on gear of course.

Jean Claude Van damme only added 37 pounds and maxed out 187lbs 5'9.

Stallone was 194lbs peak at 5'9.

 

[Subhuman Currycel]

There is no 'bulking' for natural bodybuilders

Bulking and cutting were terms popularized by professional bodybuilders in the golden era because they actually had the ability to gain rapid amounts of muscle (Bulking) and lose huge amounts of fat (cutting) in a short span of time (because of anabolic steroids)

A natural can at best expect to gain 2-3 lbs of lean muscle every month, and that number rapidly decreases after every year of lifting

Unless you're emaciated and need to bulk ASAP or a fatass that needs to cut leanbulking on a 250-300 calorie surplus for most of the time as a natural is the way to go.
Heavy bulking doesn't work as a natty because you aren't firing up your androgens with roids to create such a caloric demand for anabolism you just end up getting fat.
Heaby/dirty bulking as a natty is a retard meme.

 

[horseshoe]

 

[Gymcelled]

lol Ripp is a massive retard. Unless you want to powershit and cope that way his advice is terrible

Never forget that Ripp went out of his way to proudly show to the world that the pic of Zach on the right was some top tier progress. Never forget that he thinks this is well proportioned, attractive and strong looking. Never forget that he's gone on podcasts (like mike matthews' podcast) and said that "if anything SS is too upper body focused" when he was asked if SS was too lower body focused jfl

Never forget that he will always argue that chin ups are enough for your bi's, bench press is enough for your triceps, deadlift is enough for your forearms etc. Dude is dogmatic af

@Grothendieck

 

[Irredeemable]

Dude GOMAD is for skinny teenagers not for grown ass adults, it's people's fault for being stupid.

 

[Gymcelled]

Offtopic, but what's your program?

lol why do you ask

I do full body except i tend to not train legs much these days so my full body work out are often just upper body focused

I focus on dips, chins, rows, ohp. I sometimes do assistance exercises like pullover or upright rows (with dumbbells and no higher than the nipple line otherwise it's dangerous). I do rear delt work every session. I do arms pretty much every session after compounds these days.

I do forearms at home once per week usually

Tbh if you want good reads you should check: Science and Practice of Strength Training, Supertraining and lastly maybe some of the books of Frederic Delavier

 

[Gymcelled]

I was just asking

You can always pm me if you wanna talk about lifting i'm autistic enough to enjoy the subject

That being said i think that so long as you're eating right, sleeping right, hitting the compounds and not missing out on some key isolation everything else almost doesn't matter at all. It's all memes and fine tuning beyond that.

 

[Hate_my_life]

You can always pm me if you wanna talk about lifting i'm autistic enough to enjoy the subject

That being said i think that so long as you're eating right, sleeping right, hitting the compounds and not missing out on some key isolation everything else almost doesn't matter at all. It's all memes and fine tuning beyond that.

This.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

You can always pm me if you wanna talk about lifting i'm autistic enough to enjoy the subject

That being said i think that so long as you're eating right, sleeping right, hitting the compounds and not missing out on some key isolation everything else almost doesn't matter at all. It's all memes and fine tuning beyond that.

Have you heard of the website 'natty or not'

 

[Gymcelled]

Have you heard of the website 'natty or not'

Yes I used to read it jfl. I have mixed feeling about it

 

[dirtykombatcel]

JFL at all those gymcelling threads, you're staying here no matter how much you lift faggots

 

[Studiocel]

JFL at all those gymcelling threads, you're staying here no matter how much you lift faggots

Lifting aint gonna help us but its a good healthy cope.

 

[starcrapoo]

Shit genetics will screw you over in any sport.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

Yes I used to read it jfl. I have mixed feeling about it

Its pretty blackpilled, not only about bodybuilding but even dating/the matrix etc

 

[Gymcelled]

Its pretty blackpilled, not only about bodybuilding but even dating/the matrix etc

iirc he's retarded on certain things, like he thinks the majority of exercises are dangerous

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

iirc he's retarded on certain things, like he thinks the majority of exercises are dangerous

Haha yeah he is a little paranoid about exercise selection

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

JFL at all those gymcelling threads, you're staying here no matter how much you lift faggots

I think we all know that JFL. If it wasn't obvious enough already you learn that girls don't give a fuck about musculature like 2 months into gymcelling.

Plenty of people on this forum have been gymcelling for ages, the only compliments you're going to get on it are gonna be from other men.

 

[LooksAreLife]

SS+GOMAD is a meme unless you want to get into powerlifting, but if your goal is aesthetics/bodybuilding then doing SS+GOMAD is retarded as fuck.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Plenty of people on this forum have been gymcelling for ages, the only compliments you're going to get on it are gonna be from other men.

Relatable, literally 0 women have ever complimented me on my looks back when I was almost ripped, meanwhile most men even the Chads told me I'm way different.

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

Relatable, literally 0 women have ever complimented me on my looks back when I was almost ripped, meanwhile most men even the Chads told me I'm way different.

Lol yes same here man. Nobody gives a fuck.

Every time I see gymcels I just hold my head and ask "whyyyy". FFS. NOBODY is asking for it. Look at the audience of a Mr Olympia event. How many females do you see JFL. 0.

Even the typically "hot" muscular look which takes a few months of lifting to get to seems to be dying out. Look at TikTok and shit, the guys there aren't shredded, not even close. They're just tall and lean.

 

[your personality]

Shit genetics will screw you over in any sport.

 

[RoastieBeef]

GOMAD isn't what's wrong with Starting Strength, there are /fit/izens who've actually LOST weight on 2500 calories. Because they didn't realize they were also supposed to eat food in addition to that gallon of milk a day.

Starting Strength fails because it's too lower body heavy. You get "T-Rex mode" from Starting Strength.

The problem with starting strength is that it is based on non-aesthetic workouts. Women generally don't care how strong your thighs And back are. That's all this crap works out

Chad's are doing curls and dumbells all day everyday

 

[Ellsworth]

There is no 'bulking' for natural bodybuilders

Bulking and cutting were terms popularized by professional bodybuilders in the golden era because they actually had the ability to gain rapid amounts of muscle (Bulking) and lose huge amounts of fat (cutting) in a short span of time (because of anabolic steroids)

A natural can at best expect to gain 2-3 lbs of lean muscle every month, and that number rapidly decreases after every year of lifting

I assume you miss typed. A natural can’t gain 2-3 lbs of muscle a month. Fat sure but not muscle. 2-3 a year would be good for a natural. Especially one staring out. Lol @ training without steroids.