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Marcion of Sinope may be the Most Intelligent Christian Theologist to Ever Exist. He was Blackballed by Orthodox Christians

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Marcion of Sinope was a Christian scholar from Ancient Greece (approx. 100AD) He published his own canon compilation of the Christian scriptures, this included:

Ten Epistles of Pauline - Galatians, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Romans, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, Laodiceans, Colossians, Philemon, Philippians​
The Gospel of Marcion – It has been theorized this particular gospel predates the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Basically the Gospel of Marcion might have been the first Gospel that was ever written, and that the other four canonical gospels are derived from Marcion's Gospel

However, Marcion of Sinope was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church in 144AD, and other Christian scholars from Ancient Greece & Rome labelled Marcion as “heretic” and “anti-christ”. I am not a follower of any denomination of the Christian Church, and I do not believe in the narratives of Christian doctrine. But there is a reason why I consider Marcion of Sinope to have been one of the most intelligent Christian theologians of all time

Marcion tried to “reform” the Christian doctrine in his own way. Essentially, he tried to separate “the God of the Old Testament” (aka the Demiurge) from “the God of the Gospel”, where the Demiurge is the vengeful, wrathful deity belonging strictly to the Jews, and the “God of the Gospel” is the loving, forgiving deity that belongs to all people including Gentiles

An extract from the Wikipedia article on Marcionism (the teachings of Marcion):
The premise of Marcionism is that many of the teachings of Christ are incompatible with the actions of the God of the Old Testament. Focusing on the Pauline traditions of the Gospel, Marcion felt that all other conceptions of the Gospel, and especially any association with the Old Testament religion, was opposed to, and a backsliding from, the truth. He further regarded the arguments of Paul regarding law and gospel, wrath and grace, works and faith, flesh and spirit, sin and righteousness, death and life, as the essence of religious truth. He ascribed these aspects and characteristics as two principles, the righteous and wrathful God of the Old Testament, who is at the same time identical with the creator of the world, and a second God of the Gospel who is only love and mercy

Personally I think there are few issues with the consistency of the Epistles of Pauline. But I understand why Marcion wanted to focus more on the writings of St. Paul instead of the other apostles. Marcion wanted to formalize the binary concepts that were preached by St. Paul (e.g., flesh and spirit, law and gospel). It was an attempt by Marcion to canonize Christianity in a way that was straightforward and less open to multiple conflicting interpretations, unlike Orthodox Christianity

Marcionism also rejects the idea of Jesus having to be sacrificed to save the souls of goyim, since the Marcionite perspective supposes that the human form of Jesus Christ was merely an illusion, which means Jesus Christ as a human was never born, never died and thus never resurrected.
But the Orthodox Church managed to dominate the Marcionism in the battle for supremacy over Christian followship. This resulted in the propagation of less intelligent Christians who otherwise wouldn’t have been as low IQ as they are today, if Marcionism had instead dominated Orthodox Christianity in the battle for supremacy over Christian followship

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The Marcion Hypothesis suggests that the Gospel of Marcion was the first gospel that was ever written, and that the other four canonical gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were to some extent, if not entirely, inspired by the contents of the Gospel of Marcion

As I've already said, I am not a Jew worshipper. But I think Orthodox Christianity (the precedent for Catholicism and Protestantism) is more incoherent than Marcionism. I assure you that if there are any surviving Marcionite Christians in the world, they have an average higher IQ than Catholic & Protestant Christians

They say Marcion scored, or “seduced” some virgin female after he was excommunicated from Rome. The leaders of the Catholic Church found out and tried to villainize him, by portraying Marcion as “the heretic who seduces and defiles the virginity of the Church”. But as you already know, many Catholic Church leaders turned out to be pedophilic faggots who like to play with the cocks and vaginas of little prepubescent boys and girls. So who’s truly the seducer and defiler of the "virginity" of the Church?

A link to the Gospel of Marcion: http://gnosis.org/library/marcion.htm
 
Only Gnosticism makes sense to me, I always found the whole 3 in 1 thing to be very fishy. Why should a God be killed by his own creations?
 
Why should a God be killed by his own creations?
Kike worshippers think his "sacrifice" in human form would somehow create intercession for "sinners" and Gentles

Because in their low IQ brains, "God dying as a mortal man" somehow established a connection between the entire humankind to "God", in a way that now makes it possible for all NPC humans to be made "spiritually clean" and be "saved from eternal hell" JFL
 
He published his own canon compilation of the Christian scriptures, this included:
This was actually the first canon
Marcion tried to “reform” the Christian doctrine in his own way.
According to the modern church of marcion he was not actually reforming anything but rather bringing it's church back to the old ways. They claim the original church, or the church of Paul, was the largest Christian denomination before and possibly during the council of nicea but that the Romans destroyed it and artificially forced judeo Christianity on Europe.
he tried to separate “the God of the Old Testament” (aka the Demiurge) from “the God of the Gospel”, where the Demiurge is the vengeful, wrathful deity belonging strictly to the Jews, and the “God of the Gospel” is the loving, forgiving deity that belongs to all people including Gentiles
Also according to the church of marcion, there is no actual evidence he believed in two separate gods like gnostics did (demiurge vs Christ) but rather he believed Jews were an entirely false religion and that Christ and his testamentum was the only truth that existed, they said the Catholics painted him as believing in two gods to discredit his ideas and label him a gbostic
I am not a Jew worshipper
Marcionism completely separates itself from Judaism because according to the testimuntum of Christ (the first/marcion canon) Jews are not special, they are not the chosen people, the Torah is false, exc. The modern church of marcion claims the only connection between Christianity and Judaism that isn't artificial was that many Jews converted to Christianity for Jesus because they were majority of the population where he arrived
 
Marcionism completely separates itself from Judaism because according to the testimuntum of Christ (the first/marcion canon) Jews are not special, they are not the chosen people, the Torah is false, exc. The modern church of marcion claims the only connection between Christianity and Judaism that isn't artificial was that many Jews converted to Christianity for Jesus because they were majority of the population where he arrived
This unironically sounds more preferable than modern Christianity (Catholicism, Protestantism). I think you're right. Marcion wanted to entirely separate his Christian framework from the forerunner Jewish stuff (the Talmud, Dead Sea Scrolls, Seputagint etc)

From the Marcionite framework, Jesus Christ couldn't even be an Israelite since he wasn't even mortal in the first place

Marcionism was probably the best framework for Christianity. He could have re-directed the course of world history in common era if he conquered the Judeo-Christcuck Church (aka Catholics) for superiority over Christian followship, but the odds were already against him. The Catholic Church had the force of the Roman Empire to support them. Marcion was merely excommunicado lone wolf who had nothing
 
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