Luck and looks.

[nice_try]

Have you ever noticed how nobody can ever give you a detailed step-by-step guide on how to become rich? Or successful? Or find a girlfriend?

Whenever you ask a rich/successful person "How does someone become rich/successful like you?" they will always answer in vague platitudes like "Take risks", "Be out there", "Follow your passion", "Trust your gut", etc.
It's almost as if these people don't even know what to do to get rich. It's like they got rich on accident and they wouldn't be able to do it again if they'd lost all their wealth.

Whenever you ask a guy who is successful with girls "How does someone become successful with girls?" he will always answer in vague platitudes like "Just put yourself out there", "Just smile", "Be open and don't seem needy", etc.
It's almost as if these guys don't even know what to do to attract girls. It's like they are getting girls on accident without even knowing how exactly.


Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks.

These rich and successful people will come up with the most retarded platitudes and nonsense about how to get rich instead of just accepting the fact that the only reason why they're rich is because they were lucky.
The guys who are successful with women will come up with the biggest bullshit about why girls are attracted to them, because they can't acknowledge the fact that they're only popular with girls because of their looks, nothing else.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

many retards have recently gotten rich from crypto though, it's romance that has no solution (almost no one who has to try hard there will succeed)

 

[xkcdCleftcel]

Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks.

Exactly. For most people, dating comes naturally, they don't need a guide because it is just natural. If you need a step by step guide, it is over for you, looks should have been your guide.

 

[AsakangaHalo]

It's all down to luck.
You are lucky if you are born attractive.
You are lucky if you find a girlfriend with low standards or has some sort of fetish.

 

[PersonalityChad]

It's all down to luck.
You are lucky if you are born attractive.
You are lucky if you find a girlfriend with low standards or has some sort of fetish.

This, the luckpill destroyed me

View: https://youtu.be/MM0ycay0crg

 

[lemon21]

Even if they knew how it's not like they're gonna tell You lmao

 

[Med Anime]

i still believe that hard work can help a bit. just trying to stay a bit hopeful but i agree that pretty much everything in life is just about being lucky or unlucky. your fate is sealed the moment you were born.

 

[Mecoja]

You're right, guys like komesarj and some others that ascended later in life, they luckied out and won't find another gf ever again.

For getting girls just be social (any kind of interaction with people) is enough if you have the looks for one thing to lead to another, if you don't then not even God can help you.

 

[Mortis]

The universe is indifferent and cold. You either are born into wealth/looks, and if you have neither then you will have to rely on luck for the rest of your life.

Hope you win the lottery.

Hope that girls sees something in you.

Hope you're business venture will kick-start.

Rich/attractive people have certainty. The poor and the ugly don't.

 

[Mortis]

i still believe that hard work can help a bit.

It only prevents you from starving to death in the street. Most people never see the fruits of their labour grow into fruition.

 

[Celius]

It’s all RNG.

 

[incelerated]

Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks.

Jesus fucking Christ how is this not written with gold and put in every fucking classroom in the world.

Holy fucking shit this is such a high IQ quote.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks.

I dont agree with this quote

Just cause theres no step-by-step guide to achieve something, doesnt mean its only luck

its more about static vs dynamic situations

for example a game of chess

Theres no step-by-step guide to win a game chess, the game is dynamic , each move your opponent does changes the situation, so a static approach like a step-by-step guide to win wont work since the guide would have to assume the situation is the same as yours, which it wouldnt . However knowing the principles and strategies of chess can still help you win if you apply them to your situation correctly.

Similarly, there is also no step-to-step guide to get rich, for instance if you want to get rich by taking the business route (like most people) , its more about actively seeking for gaps in the market, spotting an oppurtinity and then acting on it. "Take risks", "Be out there" , similarly , are just short strategies which you could apply to your situation to help your chances of getting rich. Yes luck is a factor but i still dont agree with the quote, most of the time things dont have step-by-step guides simply because a static approach cant be applied to a dynamic situation

 

[nice_try]

for example a game of chess

Theres no step-by-step guide to win a game chess, the game is dynamic , each move your opponent does changes the situation, so a static approach like a step-by-step guide to win wont work since the guide would have to assume the situation is the same as yours, which it wouldnt . However knowing the principles and strategies of chess can still help you win if you apply them to your situation correctly.

I disagree.
Winning a game of chess is a step-by-step process. Chess books actually give you the steps. For each play your opponent makes there's a counterplay written somewhere in a chess book. So it's just a matter of doing the correct next step in a given situation.
That's also the reason why anybody can become good at chess, while not anybody can become rich or successful with the ladies.

Similarly, there is also no step-to-step guide to get rich, for instance if you want to get rich by taking the business route (like most people) , its more about actively seeking for gaps in the market, spotting an oppurtinity and then acting on it. "Take risks", "Be out there" , similarly , are just short strategies which you could apply to your situation to help your chances of getting rich. Yes luck is a factor but i still dont agree with the quote, most of the time things dont have step-by-step guides simply because a static approach cant be applied to a dynamic situation

What is "a gap in the market", what is "spotting an opportunity" and what is "acting on it"? ... you're giving the same vague platitudes I'm talking about in my original post.
You're also proving my point by saying "you could apply these to your situation to HELP YOUR CHANCES of getting rich. So you admit that it comes down to LUCK.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

I disagree.
Winning a game of chess is a step-by-step process. Chess books actually give you the steps. For each play your opponent makes there's a counterplay

Thats not what chess books are for , It doesnt only depend on the play that the opponent does, you're narrowing the situation , the counterplay has to be specific to every previous play you and the opponent done ( the current position of each piece in the board matters ) , so unless theres a million+ step-by-step guides which tell you the correct counterplay to do according to where every piece in the chess board currently is, chess can be considered a dynamic game.

Similarly, theres also no step-by-step guide that exists that tell you every possible gap in the market which could exist, and how you can act on it to get rich , its too situational.

What is "a gap in the market", what is "spotting an opportunity" and what is "acting on it"?

there'll always be gaps in the market, whether you're actively looking for one isnt all about luck.

You're also proving my point by saying "you could apply these to your situation to HELP YOUR CHANCES of getting rich. So you admit that it comes down to LUCK.

When i say "help your chances" , i mean increase the probablity of it happening, you cant increase the chances if it was all luck, since luck is completely random.

And im not proving your point, i just disagreed with your quote i quoted earlier, since you said things that dont have step-to-step guides are achieved through luck , i already said getting rich has a luck factor.

 

[nice_try]

Thats not what chess books are for , It doesnt only depend on the play that the opponent does, you're narrowing the situation , the counterplay has to be specific to every previous play you and the opponent done ( the current position of each piece in the board matters ) , so unless theres a million+ step-by-step guides which tell you the correct counterplay to do according to where every piece in the chess board currently is, chess can be considered a dynamic game.

You're beating around the bush. Chess is about pattern recognition and making the right moves.
It can be learned.
It can be trained.
Anybody can become good at chess.
Not anybody can become rich or good with the girls.

Similarly, theres also no step-by-step guide that exists that tell you every possible gap in the market which could exist, and how you can act on it to get rich , its too situational.

You didn't answer my question. What IS "a gap in the market"? See ... you can't even answer that simple question, only give platitudes, proving my point.

there'll always be gaps in the market, whether you're actively looking for one isnt all about luck.

How am I supposed to look for a "gap in the market" if you can't even define what that is ?????

When i say "help your chances" , i mean increase the probablity of it happening, you cant increase the chances if it was all luck, since luck is completely random.

If there's chance involved, it's luck.
You can work hard to achieve a 99,9% chance of winning and still lose.
It all comes down to luck when chances are involved. Always.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

You're beating around the bush. Chess is about pattern recognition and making the right moves.
It can be learned.
It can be trained.
Anybody can become good at chess.
Not anybody can become rich or good with the girls.

And i dont disagree.

but the fact that chess doenst have a step-to-step guide but isnt about luck (which you just admitted) contradicts your quote "Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks." It's simply because is dynamic, not because its about luck.

You didn't answer my question. What IS "a gap in the market"? See ... you can't even answer that simple question, only give platitudes, proving my point.

I thought it was rhetorical. And a quick google search will give you the definition of what it is. You dont have to ask around

If there's chance involved, it's luck.
You can work hard to achieve a 99,9% chance of winning and still lose.
It all comes down to luck when chances are involved. Always.

i clearly said "all luck", and i already said twice that luck is a factor when getting rich. You're fixating on something which we both agree on

 

[nice_try]

but the fact that chess doenst have a step-to-step guide but isnt about luck (which you just admitted) contradicts your quote "Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks." It's simply because is dynamic, not because its about luck.

As I said, chess is a step-by-step game.
It's literally played in moves.
One move at a time, one step at a time.
If you do the right steps (which can be learned) you'll win, if you do the wrong steps, you lose.

I thought it was rhetorical. And a quick google search will give you the definition of what it is. You dont have to ask around

Well, you still didn't answer the question .....

What IS a gap in the market?

Name me a gap in the market so I can fill it to become rich.

You cant? Oh ..... my point exactly.

i clearly said "all luck", and i already said twice that luck is a factor when getting rich. You're fixating on something which we both agree on

luck, a bit of luck, all luck ...... useless word play.
If chances are involved, you need luck to win, which is what I've been saying.

 

[Shrek]

luck and/or looks.

Looks =luck

So everything is a predeterminated game with the exceptions of in-game luck(Winning lottery,inheritance,or getting money with luck etc)

 

[lifelongkhhv]

As I said, chess is a step-by-step game.
It's literally played in moves.
One move at a time, one step at a time.
If you do the right steps (which can be learned) you'll win, if you do the wrong steps, you lose.

Yeah , no shit , but as i said 2 posts ago , theres no step-to-step guide available which tells you the correct counterplay to do according to where every piece in the chess board currently is , theres simply too many possibilities. Which contradicts your quote

Well, you still didn't answer the question .....

What IS a gap in the market?

What Is A Gap In The Market

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'What is a gap in the market' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

luck, a bit of luck, all luck ...... useless word play.
If chances are involved, you need luck to win, which is what I've been saying.

if it all relies on luck, then you cant increase/decrease your chance of winning

 

[El Diablo]

Even if they knew how it's not like they're gonna tell You lmao

This. Let's say I had a high IQ multi-million business start up idea. I am not going to reveal it to strangers on the internet who might steal it from me and become my competitors.

The only advice you are gonna get from people is vague "water is wet" advice. Stuff so obvious you could have came up with it by yourself.

 

[Profligate]

There's plenty of ugly fucks who got rich because they had the right personality which is genetic. They're very greedy money driven people. Their whole existence revolves around acquiring more and more shekels. That's the only thing they care about and naturally most of the time they end up being rich. Of course there's a lot of luck involved but if you are that type of person sooner or later you're gonna strike gold

Most people aren't like that. I mean they like having money but getting rich isn't on their mind 24/7

 

[nice_try]

Yeah , no shit , but as i said 2 posts ago , theres no step-to-step guide available which tells you the correct counterplay to do according to where every piece in the chess board currently is , theres simply too many possibilities. Which contradicts your quote

There aren't as many possibilities as you'd think .... because you want to win, you can't just make any move, you have to make moves that have a chance of winning the game and those are often quite predictable.

What Is A Gap In The Market

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'What is a gap in the market' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

You don't understand the question.
Ok, google says "A gap in the market is an opportunity to make and sell something that is not available yet."
But what IS something to make and sell that is not available yet?
What IS a gap in the market right now?
NAME IT.
Name one gap in the market right now, it should be easy if gaps in the market are so obvious and easiely identified.
.....
Oh ... you can't?
....
Yeah, exactly my point.
You would have to be lucky to find a gap in the market, because you can't identify them just like that.

if it all relies on luck, then you cant increase/decrease your chance of winning

as I said, useless wordplay.
as long as there is chance involved, there is luck involved.

 

[Darkday]

I've always said so, they are God's favorites. Life was made for them, we're just part of it in order to make their lives perfect.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

There aren't as many possibilities as you'd think .... because you want to win, you can't just make any move, you have to make moves that have a chance of winning the game and those are often quite predictable.

I dont know what you consider "many" ... and what i said earlier said still contradicts your quote. You're deviating from my point

as long as there is chance involved, there is luck involved.

Never said luck wasnt involved , what im arguing is the degree of luck that is involved

You don't understand the question.
Ok, google says "A gap in the market is an opportunity to make and sell something that is not available yet."
But what IS something to make and sell that is not available yet?
What IS a gap in the market right now?
NAME IT.
.....
Oh ... you can't?
....
Yeah, exactly my point.

Yes i cant, so? You're asking me all these questions to prove that luck comes into play when getting rich, when i already said luck is a factor in the first post.

 

[nice_try]

Yes i cant, so? You're asking me all these questions to prove that luck comes into play when getting rich, when i already said luck is a factor in the first post.

What are we argueing about then if you agree with my original post claiming that you need luck to get rich ...

 

[lifelongkhhv]

What are we argueing about then if you agree with my original post claiming that you need luck to get rich ...

Whenever there is no detailed step-by-step guide to achieving something, be assured that it's only achievable through luck and/or looks.

I already said it in the first post, i dont agree with this quote because it isnt correct , not everything that doesnt have a step-by-step guide is only achievable through luck/looks , and i gave chess as an example

 

[nice_try]

I already said it in the first post, i dont agree with this quote, because it isnt correct , not everything that doesnt have a step-by-step guide is only achievable through luck/looks , and i gave chess as an example

I already explained that chess is a step-by-step game. It's literally played in moves.
You could easiely write a step-by-step guide if you knew your enemies moves beforehand.
You could even write a step-by-step guide if you didn't know your enemies moves beforehand, it would just get pretty lenghty because you'd have to cover every possibilty.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

I already explained that chess is a step-by-step game. It's literally played in moves

yes , its step-to-step , in the context that its one move at a time.

but as i said , theres no step-to-step guide to win a game of chess, theres variations in steps and the correct counterplay to be made as it depends on the situation which is dynamic , if a step-to-step guide existed to win a game of chess it will defeat the whole purpose the game.

 

[nice_try]

yes , its step-to-step , in the context that its one move at a time.

but as i said , theres no step-to-step guide to win a game of chess, theres variations in steps and the correct counterplay to be made as it depends on the situation which is dynamic , if a step-to-step guide existed to win a game of chess it will defeat the whole purpose the game.

There's no step-by-step guide because it would be ridiculously much work to write a guide for every possible scenario, but it would be very well possible.

How the fuck do you think Chess Bots work?
The only reason why you can play Chess versus a Bot is that there is an underlying logic by which you can calculate what the correct next step is.
A Chess bot is literally writing a step-by-step guide everytime it beats you.
It knows which situation requires which next move.

Chess is NOT dynamic.
Chess is static events in a queue.
That's why bots can play it.

You can programm a bot to play chess, but you can't programm a bot to make you rich or attract females.

 

[lemon21]

This. Let's say I had a high IQ multi-million business start up idea. I am not going to reveal it to strangers on the internet who might steal it from me and become my competitors.

The only advice you are gonna get from people is vague "water is wet" advice. Stuff so obvious you could have came up with it by yourself.

People expect life to be handed to them "muh it's just luck" Like dude, sure luck is a fucking factor. Now if a lot of people that share the same characteristics get rich, then it's not luck.

Without luck you won't get rich, but it's easier to get lucky if you try hard as fuck

 

[lifelongkhhv]

You could easiely write a step-by-step guide if you knew your enemies moves beforehand.

"if" , your quote said something, which implies any situation that is not exactly known or stated

You could even write a step-by-step guide if you didn't know your enemies moves beforehand, it would just get pretty lenghty because you'd have to

but it doesnt exist, theres no step-to-step guide. Because theres so many different possiblities , no one ever would write such a lengthy guide

How the fuck do you think Chess Bots work?
The only reason why you can play Chess versus a Bot is that there is an underlying logic by which you can calculate what the correct next step is.
A Chess bot is literally writing a step-by-step guide everytime it beats you.
It knows which situation requires which next move.

Chess is NOT dynamic.
Chess is static events in a queue.
That's why bots can play it.

A bot isnt a step-to-step guide, and at the lowest-level, everything can be considered "static" by your logic, since luck scientifically doesnt really exist.

a game of chess is still dynamic since each move changes the situation and the possibilities for both sides. (It depends in which context you look at it )

Also a quick google search even agrees with me that chess is considered dynamic.

 

[nice_try]

"if" , your quote said something, which implies any situation that is not exactly known or stated

but it doesnt exist, theres no step-to-step guide. Because theres so many different possiblities , no one ever would write such a lengthy guide

A bot isnt a step-to-step guide, and at the lowest-level, everything can be considered "static" by your logic, since luck scientifically doesnt really exist.

a game of chess is still dynamic since each move changes the situation and the possibilities for both sides. (It depends in which context you look at it )

Also a quick google search even agrees with me that chess is considered dynamic.

This is going nowhere and is only word play.

I think I made my point clear enough.
There are step-by-step guides for chess out there. Just look into chess books, they will give you step by step openings, strategies and counterplays. Chess Bots can follow an underlying step-by-step logic to determine the best move to make. Anybody can become good at chess by memorizing plays (steps). So I've proven my point sufficiently enough, I think.

My point was already proven by you not being able to name a gap in the market anyways, showing that it takes luck to find one, not skill.

 

[lifelongkhhv]

I think I made my point clear enough.
There are step-by-step guides for chess out there. Just look into chess books, they will give you step by step openings, strategies and counterplays. Chess Bots can follow an underlying step-by-step logic to determine the best move to make. Anybody can become good at chess by memorizing plays (steps). So I've proven my point sufficiently enough, I think.

Theres also step-to-step guides to become rich, but reading it wont guarantee that you will actually become rich.

i think we just have different definitions of "step-by-step guides" , i think most peoples definition of step-by-step guides are guides where you can follow each step and directly apply it without much thinking , and following it will guarantee 100% success rate , for example, a guide to cook a particular food. I thought this definition was already implied by your first post

However, reading a step-by-step guide on chess wont guarantee you to win every chess game , since it only gives you strategies, counterplays ( like you said) , because you still have to know when , how and if you can apply the strategy/counterplay depending on the situation .

My point was already proven by you not being able to name a gap in the market anyways, showing that it takes luck to find one, not skill.

I never disagreed with that point, i just disagreed with your quote. I thought this was clear in my first post when i said becoming rich has a luck factor