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All of our problems in society have been caused by a rejection of proper sexual morality as it has been defined by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church teaches that the main purpose of sex/marriage is procreation, and that people should be monogamous (as that's the most stable environment for children to be raised in). Under this model, everyone would have a wife and there would be no incels.

Meanwhile, the current sexual hypergamous culture says sex is only for pleasure, meaning all the chads and the stacies get all the sex and the incels are left with nothing.

Therefore, it's only logical for all incels to convert to Catholicism and do everything possible to spread its doctrine. We need to have another Crusade where we spread the faith and its doctrine... a Reconquista of the West, to spread Catholic doctrine throughout society and end hypergamy.
 
Idiot post. Christianity and the mentality that comes with it is the root of all the current problems of today :feelsclown:
 
Incels should convert to Islam
 
Atleast it's better than Hinduism
 
Idiot post. Christianity and the mentality that comes with it is the root of all the current problems of today :feelsclown:
Shut the fuck up you degenerate low IQ atheist. I just explained why Catholicism is the optimal religion for incels. Find a real rebuttal or shut the hell up you fakecel cuck.
 
Shut the fuck up you degenerate low IQ atheist. I just explained why Catholicism is the optimal religion for incels. Find a real rebuttal or shut the hell up you fakecel cuck.
I’m not an atheist idiot.

Jews created this pathetic ripoff of pagan religions originally to subvert the Roman Empire, it worked so well that eventually all of Europe fell hostage to this curse against us and made us WEAK and under their control.

That’s all xianity is. WEAKNESS. The opposite of nature and natural law. The thought that all humans are equal under some shitty kike prophet. Christianity is the main school of thought that communism and other degenerate ideologies that destroyed the world come from. :feelsclown::feelsclown:
 
I’m not an atheist idiot.

Jews created this pathetic ripoff of pagan religions originally to subvert the Roman Empire, it worked so well that eventually all of Europe fell hostage to this curse against us and made us WEAK and under their control.

That’s all xianity is. WEAKNESS. The opposite of nature and natural law. The thought that all humans are equal under some shitty kike prophet. Christianity is the main school of thought that communism and other degenerate ideologies that destroyed the world come from. :feelsclown::feelsclown:
The idea that Jews are attempting to infiltrate and destroy Western societies is an anti-semitic myth. There's zero evidence that Christianity was proliferated by the Jews. Christianity was largely pushed by white Roman women who attempted to virtue signal to their Chad Roman General counterparts.

Catholicism is not weakness, it created one of the largest empires in existence, converting over a billion believers though both force and logical reason.... from hypergamy/polygamy to monogamy.
 
Incels should convert to Islam
Not that because that would be chaddam worship
Muhammad was red hair light skin chaddam 6ft so vast majority of their disciples mogged on sight by him. Enough the mogs man
 
Only protestants are still insisting on chastity and sexual morality,but not all of them.Catholic church became weak in that regard.
 
The idea that Jews are attempting to infiltrate and destroy Western societies is an anti-semitic myth.
:soy: :feelsclown: :feelskek:Look at this bozo nigga @Fat Link @based_meme @Hoodedn1inja20 @Lycan @PointOfNoReturn @jerkjocky. I don’t ever want to see another reply from you again after seeing this, we have nothing to talk about. You are an NPC bt definition. But I will make one final point for the onlookers of this post.

@TorturedSoul and everything that he has every posted on this forum is the embodiment of xianity. Everything that he says consist of.

1. Jew worship

He loves Jewish billionaires and thinks
that anyone can “work hard” and have as much money as they do :feelsclown: and admits that he wants to be a high level societal parasite in the form of a lawyer.

He also demonstrates this in the post of by being a shabbos goy that cover for Jews, which is what the Bible demands.

2. Weakness

@TorturedSoul admits that he behaves like a foid and cries over the most trivial of things. He believes that we should have more “empathy” and tolerance of the weak, which is a main tenant of xianity.

And @TorturedSoul is such a xian idiot that he probably doesn’t realize that by engaging in debate with others he is breaking a major rule of the Bible, which is turning the other cheek and kissing the feet of those that attack you :feelsclown::feelskek::feelskek:
 
I agree with your premise but not your conclusion, gray. An incel converting to Catholicism isn’t going to change society at all. We’d just be plowing the sea. There’s larger underlying reasons why things are the way they are that would need to be addressed first
 
All of our problems in society have been caused by a rejection of proper sexual morality as it has been defined by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church teaches that the main purpose of sex/marriage is procreation, and that people should be monogamous (as that's the most stable environment for children to be raised in). Under this model, everyone would have a wife and there would be no incels.

Meanwhile, the current sexual hypergamous culture says sex is only for pleasure, meaning all the chads and the stacies get all the sex and the incels are left with nothing.

Therefore, it's only logical for all incels to convert to Catholicism and do everything possible to spread its doctrine. We need to have another Crusade where we spread the faith and its doctrine... a Reconquista of the West, to spread Catholic doctrine throughout society and end hypergamy.
I have a good opinion of Christianity. I think it is the best religion ever invented. Yet I don't believe in it, at least not in its current form.

Catholicism is the worst form of Christianity. In order to claim to be a Catholic today, you have to be either really ignorant or extremely hypocritical.

There is no way Christianity can help Incels (or anybody else) in any of its current traditional forms (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, etc.) The vocabulary it uses is just obsolete and barely carries a weakened shadow of its initial meaning. Unless you are ok with radical reform, there is no hope in Christianity.
 
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:soy: :feelsclown: :feelskek:Look at this bozo nigga @Fat Link @based_meme @Hoodedn1inja20 @Lycan @PointOfNoReturn @jerkjocky. I don’t ever want to see another reply from you again after seeing this, we have nothing to talk about. You are an NPC bt definition. But I will make one final point for the onlookers of this post.

@TorturedSoul and everything that he has every posted on this forum is the embodiment of xianity. Everything that he says consist of.

1. Jew worship

He loves Jewish billionaires and thinks
that anyone can “work hard” and have as much money as they do :feelsclown: and admits that he wants to be a high level societal parasite in the form of a lawyer.

He also demonstrates this in the post of by being a shabbos goy that cover for Jews, which is what the Bible demands.

2. Weakness

@TorturedSoul admits that he behaves like a foid and cries over the most trivial of things. He believes that we should have more “empathy” and tolerance of the weak, which is a main tenant of xianity.

And @TorturedSoul is such a xian idiot that he probably doesn’t realize that by engaging in debate with others he is breaking a major rule of the Bible, which is turning the other cheek and kissing the feet of those that attack you :feelsclown::feelskek::feelskek:
Jewish power and influence is undeniable. Here's a good website.

 
Only protestants are still insisting on chastity and sexual morality,but not all of them.Catholic church became weak in that regard.
It's the opposite, protestcucks are pro-concetreption which favors chads because of pleasure and is pro-divorce which promotes monkey-branching of foids
 
:soy: :feelsclown: :feelskek:Look at this bozo nigga @Fat Link @based_meme @Hoodedn1inja20 @Lycan @PointOfNoReturn @jerkjocky. I don’t ever want to see another reply from you again after seeing this, we have nothing to talk about. You are an NPC bt definition. But I will make one final point for the onlookers of this post.

@TorturedSoul and everything that he has every posted on this forum is the embodiment of xianity. Everything that he says consist of.

1. Jew worship

He loves Jewish billionaires and thinks
that anyone can “work hard” and have as much money as they do :feelsclown: and admits that he wants to be a high level societal parasite in the form of a lawyer.

He also demonstrates this in the post of by being a shabbos goy that cover for Jews, which is what the Bible demands.

2. Weakness

@TorturedSoul admits that he behaves like a foid and cries over the most trivial of things. He believes that we should have more “empathy” and tolerance of the weak, which is a main tenant of xianity.

And @TorturedSoul is such a xian idiot that he probably doesn’t realize that by engaging in debate with others he is breaking a major rule of the Bible, which is turning the other cheek and kissing the feet of those that attack you :feelsclown::feelskek::feelskek:
Incels should convert other incel in denials to Catholicism and it will spread like wildfire until it reaches the bottom 80%
 
I have a good opinion of Christianity. I think it is the best religion ever invented. Yet I don't believe in it, at least not in its current form.

Catholicism is the worst form of Christianity. In order to claim to be a Catholic today, you have to be either really ignorant or extremely hypocritical.

There is no way Christianity can help Incels (or anybody else) in any of its current traditional forms (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, etc.) The vocabulary it uses is just obsolete and barely carries a weakened shadow of its initial meaning. Unless you are ok with radical reform, there is no hope in Christianity.
For me to reply reasonably I'd need a more concrete and detailed answer on why Catholicism is wrong.
 
A brief history of this “religion” and why it is wrong.

The Jewish people, in the Roman empire, were exposed to the religious tenets and beliefs of the people of the region. Back then, the Ancient Greek Culture was basically the ruling culture, and it was widely accepted by people worldwide, from Alexander's conquests and onwards. Where it was not approved and fully accepted, it was respected deeply.

In the Ancient Greek language, the word "Christ" means simply "The Anoited One" or the "One partaking in the mysteries". That is an epithet that could go to any person or any initiate of the Ancient Mysteries. It was used along the lines for many people and was rather common. That is only a "title" however.

The real "Name" of "Jesus" in the jewish soap opera, is Moshiach Ben David [The messiah descended from David] and literally just "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua". The "Christ" was added later as a title, same as "Jesus Christ" that many idiots speak left and right today.

The "story" of jesus, is nothing but Alchemical stories and stolen legends of other civilizations, mashed up together by Jews, mixing Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek and Arabic elements, into one big soup, that they later on turned into a suicidal concoction that they promoted to the illiterate masses of the Roman empire, to make them brutes and turn them against the Roman state.

The goal of this, was to create a great cultural divide within the Roman Empire, which later on destroyed the Empire through cultural appropriation and cultural warfare. Christianity was created as an exclusively "Anti-Greek" and "Anti-Pagan" ideal, to "cast down the idols" and cultural norms of the Roman Empire.


[UWSL]As stupid as this might sound, this level of a very low IQ and intelligence, was rife in the Ancient world, and rife it is also today.[/UWSL]

The jews knew that when you break a civilization's internal values that founded it, the clock is ticking until the civilization collapses. Today, the United States experiences these in sieges against Free Speech, Gun Ownership, Constitutional removal, Racial warfare of people who all share the same rights under the same Nation [this collapses a Nation no matter of the respective opinions of those involved] and so on, so forth.

The jews, later on, stole terms like this and formulated a new "faith" based on literal misappropriations of the terms and ultimate hoaxes. As one can see, Christianity is a faith that was created with the most retarded and servile in mind, and it banishes science, knowledge, understanding, the Gods, and anything great and profound as "Evil".

Meanwhile, all it does is deify the jews, tell people to obey the jews, and so on. Since most of you here are smart, you were not fooled by these messages, but people who are simpler and very illiterate at the time, were greatly confused and conned into believing this rather simplistic "religion".


[UWSL]Jews laugh, because they know this was nothing but literal spiritual dung that they created, but the well shapely statue that they made out of dung, apparently got accepted by a lot of people on a similar level of consciousness.[/UWSL]

What is even worse, that as time went, people infected by this virus, created great and marvelous things while being infected from this virus that was working against their own interests, and they tried to purposefully ignore the jewish roots of the jewish religion of Christianity, and try to hog-wash it into something else.

This never fundamentally worked, but people try this even to this day, because they do not want to accept that they must return back to their primary origins, which are clear and pure, and waiting for them. Even in modern society, we see this everyday.

In the Roman times, as the mob kept getting ingrained with the virus, they started turning against their own native Roman religion, and great upset with clashes and civil warfare broke inside the Roman empire.

As one can see, most of the Gospels of Christianity, is the jewish cultural attack on the Roman people and brainwashing them, especially the gospel of "Paul". There, people are being threatened with eternal hellfire and manipulated to give up their Roman religion, because that would send them in perpetual roasting in the place of torment for worshiping the "Devil".

As crazy as this idea sounds to us, this was believed by some really low people in the Roman Empire, who had no clue in regards to the afterlife or didn't care to read. Fear acted as a very powerful motivator, and fear shuts down common sense.

Combined with political infiltration, bribes and other forms of manipulation, Jews finally instated "Christianity" as an acceptable religion in the Roman empire after a few centuries of this hoax taking ground. Tempted by the power of this population control hoax, many generations have passed where leaders had to endure it or tolerate it, and because it got very ingrained, many just wanted to rule without reforming any of it, just allowing the virus to go on like an illness one would have to deal with at a later date. Others, tried to make use of this illness, oftentimes with catastrophic outcomes for themselves and their Nations.
 
God hates ugly men
 
For me to reply reasonably I'd need a more concrete and detailed answer on why Catholicism is wrong.
For once, all the criticisms of Catholicism made during the reformation are valid. I am not talking about today's protestants but of people like Calvin, Luther, etc. Catholicism is not really Christianity. It is a conglomerate of all sorts of different things, including all kinds of pagan practices and a lot of mother goddess worship (the Virgin Mary). This was ok in the Middle Ages, when it was unrealistic to assume that real Christianity could be adopted by a large number of people. After the Reformation, it stopped being ok.

Since the reformation, educated Catholics know full well that the protestant reformers were correct, but they remained Catholics out of social convenience. This made hypocrisy an integral part of Catholicism. Of course, over time, this hypocrisy could only get worse. That is why today, the Roman Church is run by gay cliques (dixit Benedict XVI) and pedophilia is so rampant among priests.

That is my understanding about Catholicism. However, Catholic or not, Christianity is dying anyway because it is saddled with a completely obsolete set of metaphors that no one resonates to anymore. Also, Christian vocabulary has been deeply subverted. Here is an example, regarding the word "love":

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:soy: :feelsclown: :feelskek:Look at this bozo nigga @Fat Link @based_meme @Hoodedn1inja20 @Lycan @PointOfNoReturn @jerkjocky. I don’t ever want to see another reply from you again after seeing this, we have nothing to talk about. You are an NPC bt definition. But I will make one final point for the onlookers of this post.

@TorturedSoul and everything that he has every posted on this forum is the embodiment of xianity. Everything that he says consist of.

1. Jew worship

He loves Jewish billionaires and thinks
that anyone can “work hard” and have as much money as they do :feelsclown: and admits that he wants to be a high level societal parasite in the form of a lawyer.

He also demonstrates this in the post of by being a shabbos goy that cover for Jews, which is what the Bible demands.

2. Weakness

@TorturedSoul admits that he behaves like a foid and cries over the most trivial of things. He believes that we should have more “empathy” and tolerance of the weak, which is a main tenant of xianity.

And @TorturedSoul is such a xian idiot that he probably doesn’t realize that by engaging in debate with others he is breaking a major rule of the Bible, which is turning the other cheek and kissing the feet of those that attack you :feelsclown::feelskek::feelskek:
jfl hes probably a jew himself :feelshehe:
 
All of our problems in society have been caused by a rejection of proper sexual morality as it has been defined by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church teaches that the main purpose of sex/marriage is procreation, and that people should be monogamous (as that's the most stable environment for children to be raised in). Under this model, everyone would have a wife and there would be no incels.

Meanwhile, the current sexual hypergamous culture says sex is only for pleasure, meaning all the chads and the stacies get all the sex and the incels are left with nothing.

Therefore, it's only logical for all incels to convert to Catholicism and do everything possible to spread its doctrine. We need to have another Crusade where we spread the faith and its doctrine... a Reconquista of the West, to spread Catholic doctrine throughout society and end hypergamy.
i think you have a confused notion.it is true that we are supposed to be catholics and to live for christ,but incels would still exist with or without catholicism. there would be way way less incels(though you will have a much easier time taking down the technological world that we all live in,then turn everyone into a saint),but there would still remain a lot of issues.

the male to female ratio is horrible from around the ages of 15-40 at like 100 women to every 108 men(imagine asking millions of men to just live without sex whatsoever),so even if the entire world turned into a saint,you would still have millions of men being incel.now,if we were in a high birth rate society then maybe a 25 year old men would be able to wait and eventually marry a random young girl(15-22 let's say),and so the ratio problem would be less of an issue,but this is high tier cope because most people just have no interest in living a saintly life and so that young girl will just run away with some 16 year old chad instead of marrying a short half bald 25 year old.

also contraception is a sin,so even if you could have unlimited sex with your wife,she will still get pregrant and there will come a point where you can't afford more children because of your economics.Now there are stuff like like nfp,but i personally don't know what to think about it(i still have no clue if it's a sin or not),but even if it isn't a sin,you and your wife are bound to fuck it up,so you are just delaying pregrancies.would this delay be enough to not bankrupt you and your family?maybe.maybe not.depends on how poor you are.this also means that contraception would be banned in a catholic society.

also many "trad" catholics would gladly ban prostitituon(even though that's stupid),so they might fullfill their fantasy of living in a "trad" society even though society will always be rotten,so they will further fuck incels who can't get anything.Porn and the like might also be banned and though for now,those types of bans are easily bypassed,we don't know how it will work in the future. same for drugs.so if you are looking to smoke a joint or do some random drug,you head might be turned into smitherenes by a a random guy like it happens in the philiphines.


one should become catholic because one wants to get closer to god and not because we get easier acess to pussy,because at the end of the day many men will still be incels,and even if you are chad,economics might still fuck you over.
 
i think you have a confused notion.it is true that we are supposed to be catholics and to live for christ,but incels would still exist with or without catholicism. there would be way way less incels(though you will have a much easier time taking down the technological world that we all live in,then turn everyone into a saint),but there would still remain a lot of issues.

the male to female ratio is horrible from around the ages of 15-40 at like 100 women to every 108 men(imagine asking millions of men to just live without sex whatsoever),so even if the entire world turned into a saint,you would still have millions of men being incel.now,if we were in a high birth rate society then maybe a 25 year old men would be able to wait and eventually marry a random young girl(15-22 let's say),and so the ratio problem would be less of an issue,but this is high tier cope because most people just have no interest in living a saintly life and so that young girl will just run away with some 16 year old chad instead of marrying a short half bald 25 year old.

There's the concept of male-only volcel priests in Catholicism. If every 8 out of 108 men became priests voluntarily, this would solve the incel problem.

Also, if we institute better catechesis and teach people (from a logical, intellectual, and philosophical point of view, unlike modern Catholic schools) why Catholicism is true, and also why its sexual morality is correct, people will want to live saintly lives.

also contraception is a sin,so even if you could have unlimited sex with your wife,she will still get pregrant and there will come a point where you can't afford more children because of your economics.Now there are stuff like like nfp,but i personally don't know what to think about it(i still have no clue if it's a sin or not),but even if it isn't a sin,you and your wife are bound to fuck it up,so you are just delaying pregrancies.would this delay be enough to not bankrupt you and your family?maybe.maybe not.depends on how poor you are.this also means that contraception would be banned in a catholic society.

Contraception exists because people want to have sex mainly for pleasure alone, which encourages lookism as it encourages women to have sex with hot chads.

NFP is permitted and actually encouraged in Catholicism. Sure you might have one extra kid in your life from using NFP rather than contraception, but it's better than staying an incel.

also many "trad" catholics would gladly ban prostitituon(even though that's stupid),so they might fullfill their fantasy of living in a "trad" society even though society will always be rotten,so they will further fuck incels who can't get anything.Porn and the like might also be banned and though for now,those types of bans are easily bypassed,we don't know how it will work in the future. same for drugs.so if you are looking to smoke a joint or do some random drug,you head might be turned into smitherenes by a a random guy like it happens in the philiphines.

Prostitution is a tax on incels and a form of cope. While the chads get laid for free and experience tender, loving relationships, incels are appeased with a small amount of heartless sex, and charged exorbitant amounts of money for it. Same with porn.

Drugs are degenerate as well, they cause women to have sex with chads.

one should become catholic because one wants to get closer to god and not because we get easier acess to pussy,because at the end of the day many men will still be incels,and even if you are chad,economics might still fuck you over.
Catholics believe God is literally equivalent to good. If sexual morality is a form of good, then by converting to Catholicism for its sexual morality, you're still converting because you want to get closer to God.
 
Let's assume you're right, just for the sake of argument.

Italy is basically the home of Catholicism. It's also:

- The country with the lowest birth rate in Europe
- One of the major incel capitals of the world

So how would Catholicism solve anything if it couldn't even save its home nation? :feelskek:
Germany is the birthplace of communism with Marx, but communism still had far more influence in Russia than Germany.

Caroll Quigley spoke of how the peripheral of an empire often becomes stronger and more established than the core.
 
Let's assume you're right, just for the sake of argument.

Italy is basically the home of Catholicism. It's also:

- The country with the lowest birth rate in Europe
- One of the major incel capitals of the world

So how would Catholicism solve anything if it couldn't even save its home nation? :feelskek:
Look at Africa, very high birthrate and is very Catholic. African Catholics are for more true to the faith than Italian Catholics who have been liberalized.
 
For once, all the criticisms of Catholicism made during the reformation are valid. I am not talking about today's protestants but of people like Calvin, Luther, etc. Catholicism is not really Christianity. It is a conglomerate of all sorts of different things, including all kinds of pagan practices and a lot of mother goddess worship (the Virgin Mary). This was ok in the Middle Ages, when it was unrealistic to assume that real Christianity could be adopted by a large number of people. After the Reformation, it stopped being ok.

Since the reformation, educated Catholics know full well that the protestant reformers were correct, but they remained Catholics out of social convenience. This made hypocrisy an integral part of Catholicism. Of course, over time, this hypocrisy could only get worse. That is why today, the Roman Church is run by gay cliques (dixit Benedict XVI) and pedophilia is so rampant among priests.

That is my understanding about Catholicism. However, Catholic or not, Christianity is dying anyway because it is saddled with a completely obsolete set of metaphors that no one resonates to anymore. Also, Christian vocabulary has been deeply subverted. Here is an example, regarding the word "love":

@TorturedSoul Do you intend to answer this?
 
Look at Africa, very high birthrate and is very Catholic. African Catholics are for more true to the faith than Italian Catholics who have been liberalized.
JFL at thinking the high negro birthrate is due to religion and not the fact that they are low IQ people with no impulse control that can’t stop fucking!
 
A brief history of this “religion” and why it is wrong.

The Jewish people, in the Roman empire, were exposed to the religious tenets and beliefs of the people of the region. Back then, the Ancient Greek Culture was basically the ruling culture, and it was widely accepted by people worldwide, from Alexander's conquests and onwards. Where it was not approved and fully accepted, it was respected deeply.

In the Ancient Greek language, the word "Christ" means simply "The Anoited One" or the "One partaking in the mysteries". That is an epithet that could go to any person or any initiate of the Ancient Mysteries. It was used along the lines for many people and was rather common. That is only a "title" however.

The real "Name" of "Jesus" in the jewish soap opera, is Moshiach Ben David [The messiah descended from David] and literally just "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua". The "Christ" was added later as a title, same as "Jesus Christ" that many idiots speak left and right today.

The "story" of jesus, is nothing but Alchemical stories and stolen legends of other civilizations, mashed up together by Jews, mixing Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek and Arabic elements, into one big soup, that they later on turned into a suicidal concoction that they promoted to the illiterate masses of the Roman empire, to make them brutes and turn them against the Roman state.

The goal of this, was to create a great cultural divide within the Roman Empire, which later on destroyed the Empire through cultural appropriation and cultural warfare. Christianity was created as an exclusively "Anti-Greek" and "Anti-Pagan" ideal, to "cast down the idols" and cultural norms of the Roman Empire.


[UWSL]As stupid as this might sound, this level of a very low IQ and intelligence, was rife in the Ancient world, and rife it is also today.[/UWSL]

The jews knew that when you break a civilization's internal values that founded it, the clock is ticking until the civilization collapses. Today, the United States experiences these in sieges against Free Speech, Gun Ownership, Constitutional removal, Racial warfare of people who all share the same rights under the same Nation [this collapses a Nation no matter of the respective opinions of those involved] and so on, so forth.

The jews, later on, stole terms like this and formulated a new "faith" based on literal misappropriations of the terms and ultimate hoaxes. As one can see, Christianity is a faith that was created with the most retarded and servile in mind, and it banishes science, knowledge, understanding, the Gods, and anything great and profound as "Evil".

Meanwhile, all it does is deify the jews, tell people to obey the jews, and so on. Since most of you here are smart, you were not fooled by these messages, but people who are simpler and very illiterate at the time, were greatly confused and conned into believing this rather simplistic "religion".


[UWSL]Jews laugh, because they know this was nothing but literal spiritual dung that they created, but the well shapely statue that they made out of dung, apparently got accepted by a lot of people on a similar level of consciousness.[/UWSL]

What is even worse, that as time went, people infected by this virus, created great and marvelous things while being infected from this virus that was working against their own interests, and they tried to purposefully ignore the jewish roots of the jewish religion of Christianity, and try to hog-wash it into something else.

This never fundamentally worked, but people try this even to this day, because they do not want to accept that they must return back to their primary origins, which are clear and pure, and waiting for them. Even in modern society, we see this everyday.

In the Roman times, as the mob kept getting ingrained with the virus, they started turning against their own native Roman religion, and great upset with clashes and civil warfare broke inside the Roman empire.

As one can see, most of the Gospels of Christianity, is the jewish cultural attack on the Roman people and brainwashing them, especially the gospel of "Paul". There, people are being threatened with eternal hellfire and manipulated to give up their Roman religion, because that would send them in perpetual roasting in the place of torment for worshiping the "Devil".

As crazy as this idea sounds to us, this was believed by some really low people in the Roman Empire, who had no clue in regards to the afterlife or didn't care to read. Fear acted as a very powerful motivator, and fear shuts down common sense.

Combined with political infiltration, bribes and other forms of manipulation, Jews finally instated "Christianity" as an acceptable religion in the Roman empire after a few centuries of this hoax taking ground. Tempted by the power of this population control hoax, many generations have passed where leaders had to endure it or tolerate it, and because it got very ingrained, many just wanted to rule without reforming any of it, just allowing the virus to go on like an illness one would have to deal with at a later date. Others, tried to make use of this illness, oftentimes with catastrophic outcomes for themselves and their Nations.

Ancient Roman values are degenerate. If you've ever studied history of the ancient world, you'll know that Roman values were very liberal. They accepted different gods to promote religious diversity, did sodomy, did abortion, etc. Jewish values are indeed superior.
 
Ancient Roman values are degenerate. If you've ever studied history of the ancient world, you'll know that Roman values were very liberal. They accepted different gods to promote religious diversity, did sodomy, did abortion, etc. Jewish values are indeed superior.
Yes “Jewish values” such as ritual sacrifice, genital mutilation of infants and then sucking the blood, usury, just to name some are far superior to our natural values :feelskek::feelskek::feelsclown:.

This is projection of the highest order. Priests are the biggest degenerates and sodomizers in the world. Totally not Jewish abrahamic propaganda to say that ancient Roman values were “degenerate” and support sodomy.
 
Biblical Christianity is the best.

"Kill fags and Canaanites"; "Don't racemix"; "Don't drink blood"; "Don't sacrifice kids to Satan/Molech."; "Follow Ten Commandments."; "Believe in Jesus Christ."
"If you take the Mark of the Beast, you're gonna be ass-raped in hell."
 
For once, all the criticisms of Catholicism made during the reformation are valid. I am not talking about today's protestants but of people like Calvin, Luther, etc. Catholicism is not really Christianity. It is a conglomerate of all sorts of different things, including all kinds of pagan practices and a lot of mother goddess worship (the Virgin Mary). This was ok in the Middle Ages, when it was unrealistic to assume that real Christianity could be adopted by a large number of people. After the Reformation, it stopped being ok.
Protestants are cucks. Catholicism was the original Christianity, Prots came 1500 years later. Luther was pro-abortion, and Protestants are pro-contraception, which enables women to have sex ONLY for pleasure, meaning they can have sex with chads for pleasure alone, rather than incels who might make good fathers (keeping in mind the purpose of sex in Catholicism is procreation). And being a good parent or not is a choice, while looks aren't.

Catholics also don't worship Mary.
Since the reformation, educated Catholics know full well that the protestant reformers were correct, but they remained Catholics out of social convenience. This made hypocrisy an integral part of Catholicism. Of course, over time, this hypocrisy could only get worse. That is why today, the Roman Church is run by gay cliques (dixit Benedict XVI) and pedophilia is so rampant among priests.
Nope. St. Robert Bellarmine has written loads of intellectual works on Catholicism and Protestantism is wrong. Catholicism is more intellectually rigorous than Protestantism.

Sola Scriptura is irrational... why exactly should we follow the Bible alone? What reason is there to follow a random book that doesn't even claim to be authoritative? Whereas Catholicism has a rational basis in that its justification derives from the authority of a Church, which in turn gets its authority from the historical events of the gospels. The Bible is only a publication by the Catholic Church, not the foundation of the faith.
That is my understanding about Catholicism. However, Catholic or not, Christianity is dying anyway because it is saddled with a completely obsolete set of metaphors that no one resonates to anymore. Also, Christian vocabulary has been deeply subverted. Here is an example, regarding the word "love":

I agree, I do believe that Christian vocabulary should be updated. "Love" isn't a good word, it should perhaps be replaced by "charity".
 
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:soy: :feelsclown: :feelskek:Look at this bozo nigga @Fat Link @based_meme @Hoodedn1inja20 @Lycan @PointOfNoReturn @jerkjocky. I don’t ever want to see another reply from you again after seeing this, we have nothing to talk about. You are an NPC bt definition. But I will make one final point for the onlookers of this post.

@TorturedSoul and everything that he has every posted on this forum is the embodiment of xianity. Everything that he says consist of.

1. Jew worship

He loves Jewish billionaires and thinks
that anyone can “work hard” and have as much money as they do :feelsclown: and admits that he wants to be a high level societal parasite in the form of a lawyer.

He also demonstrates this in the post of by being a shabbos goy that cover for Jews, which is what the Bible demands.

2. Weakness

@TorturedSoul admits that he behaves like a foid and cries over the most trivial of things. He believes that we should have more “empathy” and tolerance of the weak, which is a main tenant of xianity.

And @TorturedSoul is such a xian idiot that he probably doesn’t realize that by engaging in debate with others he is breaking a major rule of the Bible, which is turning the other cheek and kissing the feet of those that attack you :feelsclown::feelskek::feelskek:
@Komesarj89 protects him
 
ROTFLOL sexual morality pffft !

didn't marry cuck joseph to raise another mans kid ?
than she cucked the 3 "wise men" to betabux him BDay presents
 
There's the concept of male-only volcel priests in Catholicism. If every 8 out of 108 men became priests voluntarily, this would solve the incel problem.

Also, if we institute better catechesis and teach people (from a logical, intellectual, and philosophical point of view, unlike modern Catholic schools) why Catholicism is true, and also why its sexual morality is correct, people will want to live saintly lives.



Contraception exists because people want to have sex mainly for pleasure alone, which encourages lookism as it encourages women to have sex with hot chads.

NFP is permitted and actually encouraged in Catholicism. Sure you might have one extra kid in your life from using NFP rather than contraception, but it's better than staying an incel.



Prostitution is a tax on incels and a form of cope. While the chads get laid for free and experience tender, loving relationships, incels are appeased with a small amount of heartless sex, and charged exorbitant amounts of money for it. Same with porn.

Drugs are degenerate as well, they cause women to have sex with chads.


Catholics believe God is literally equivalent to good. If sexual morality is a form of good, then by converting to Catholicism for its sexual morality, you're still converting because you want to get closer to God.
i said what i said, not because i agree with degeneracy and sin,but because there is no ultimate solution to inceldom.i doubt that those 8 men were all made for the priesthood or some other form of celibacy.maybe,but at the end of the day it doesn't matter,because most people want to live in sin.

nfp is encounraged by certain catholics,but as i said in that post,i don't know it's validity.all i was trying to say was that if your goal was to have as much sex as possible,then it would be harder to do so in catholicism since you have to wait 2 weeks or something close to it if i am not mistaken and you might not have the economics if a kid appears.

also i think you are coping on the catechism part.believe me we are doing an awful job(a lot of it because women are whores and choose scumbags to have kids with,and then wonder where everything went wrong.leaving women to educate their children is a mistake.at the end of the day it's the parents who are the teachers.one hour a week on sunday for catechism isn't enough.),but 100 years ago people used to receive some semi decent catechism and still people struggled heavily. the apostles had god himself with them and they still fucked it up.

btw all that i mentioned was not because i want our incel brothers to sin,but simply because one should come to the faith for good reasons,and because i feel weird to try to fool people to join something i believe in by fooling them into thinking that everyone will have a good girl and kids as long as they "work" hard and keep the "faith" up. i don't like to peddle fantasies,sorry.
 
i said what i said, not because i agree with degeneracy and sin,but because there is no ultimate solution to inceldom.i doubt that those 8 men were all made for the priesthood or some other form of celibacy.maybe,but at the end of the day it doesn't matter,because most people want to live in sin.

nfp is encounraged by certain catholics,but as i said in that post,i don't know it's validity.all i was trying to say was that if your goal was to have as much sex as possible,then it would be harder to do so in catholicism since you have to wait 2 weeks or something close to it if i am not mistaken and you might not have the economics if a kid appears.

also i think you are coping on the catechism part.believe me we are doing an awful job(a lot of it because women are whores and choose scumbags to have kids with,and then wonder where everything went wrong.leaving women to educate their children is a mistake.at the end of the day it's the parents who are the teachers.one hour a week on sunday for catechism isn't enough.),but 100 years ago people used to receive some semi decent catechism and still people struggled heavily. the apostles had god himself with them and they still fucked it up.

btw all that i mentioned was not because i want our incel brothers to sin,but simply because one should come to the faith for good reasons,and because i feel weird to try to fool people to join something i believe in by fooling them into thinking that everyone will have a good girl and kids as long as they "work" hard and keep the "faith" up. i don't like to peddle fantasies,sorry.
This was actually very well thought out and well argued. I don't even know how i would refute what you said.
 
This was actually very well thought out and well argued. I don't even know how i would refute what you said.
tortured i am still confused on one thing.are you catholic yourself,or do you simply see catholicism as a good "moral" force? just curious.
 
Shut the fuck up you degenerate low IQ atheist.
>degenerate
you went to a BLM rally and actually feel empathy towards niggers who get killed by cops. i bet you support faggots too

>low IQ atheist
theists are the ones who are low IQ. there is no proof whatsoever for any of your absurd fucking claims lol. you keep believing delusional shit that isnt grounded in reality at all like moses splitting the red sea. not only are you a libshit youre a christcuck
 
Let us start with what we agree on.
I agree, I do believe that Christian vocabulary should be updated. "Love" isn't a good word, it should perhaps be replaced by "charity".
"Charity" was the original word, yes (from "caritas" in the Vulgate). Problem is, this word is even more de-vitalized than "love"

Now, our differences:
Catholicism is more intellectually rigorous than Protestantism.
1 Cor 1:19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject. 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. [...] 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

This is why Protestants do not care about intellectual rigor. The Bible itself says that "intellectual rigor" (the "wisdom of the world") is foolishness. The very Trinity is logically inconsistent (A is B, B is C but A is not C) and yet it does not matter. The idea here is that human language is so beneath what would be required to express God's thoughts that it is inevitable that it sometimes fails to encompass it and therefore seems "unrigorous". Catholicism's attachment to intellectualism (Thomism, etc) is one more sign that it is not as faithful as it should be to the spirit of Christianity. The more you pursue "intellectual rigor", the more you risk falling back into Gnosticism, which is without a doubt the worst possible heresy.

Protestants are cucks.
Today, yes. In the 16th century, no.

Catholicism was the original Christianity,
The "original" Christianity was in Greek and its "Popes" had their sees in Alexandria and Antioch. Catholicism (the Roman Church) is very far from that. Before the year 1000, Rome played a negligible role in the shaping of Christianity. The bishop of Rome was not even present at Nicea, Ephesus or Chalcedon for the major councils.

Luther was pro-abortion,
What?

and Protestants are pro-contraception, which enables women to have sex ONLY for pleasure, meaning they can have sex with chads for pleasure alone
Modern protestants are degenerates but so are gay and pedophile priests. The Catholic church is in no position to lecture anyone.

Catholics also don't worship Mary.
In theory, no. But that is a Jesuit argument. In practice, the only places where you can find people praying in a Catholic church today, outside of Mass times, are the little side chapels dedicated to Mary. Mary worship is the reality of Catholic devotion, even if the theory says otherwise.

Sola Scriptura is irrational... why exactly should we follow the Bible alone?
Sola Scriptura is no more "irrational" than the Trinity or the resurrection, the miracles, etc. The point of the Reformation was to scrape off all the semi-pagan baggage that had accreted onto the Church during its first 1500 years of existence (the cult of saints, the pilgrimages, the "holy" water, and all the rest) . The "5 Solas" were just slogans to rally people behind this goal. They were successful at that.

Whereas Catholicism has a rational basis in that its justification derives from the authority of a Church, which in turn gets its authority from the historical events of the gospels.
Really? No one knows what happened during the first century of the Church. Did Peter go to Rome? Did he "found" the Roman see? There is no way to substantiate those claims because there are simply no reliable sources. If the curia did not shrink from forging the Donation of Constantine or the Pseudo-Isidorian decretals, what credibility does it have regarding apostolic succession?

The Bible is only a publication by the Catholic Church, not the foundation of the faith.
Whenever I discuss with educated catholics, I always have the same impression. They do not believe in God; they believe in the Church (like the Communists of old used to believe in the Party). Are you not supposed to worship the creator, rather than the creature?
 
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tortured i am still confused on one thing.are you catholic yourself,or do you simply see catholicism as a good "moral" force? just curious.
Like many educated Catholics I have met, @TorturedSoul 's faith in the existence of God seems to rest on shaky grounds. But he sure does believe in the Church and that is what he calls "being Catholic".
 
Let us start with what we agree on.

"Charity" was the original word, yes (from "caritas" in the Vulgate). Problem is, this word is even more de-vitalized than "love"

Now, our differences:

1 Cor 1:19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject. 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. [...] 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

This is why Protestants do not care about intellectual rigor. The Bible itself says that "intellectual rigor" (the "wisdom of the world") is foolishness. The very Trinity is logically inconsistent (A is B, B is C but A is not C) and yet it does not matter. The idea here is that human language is so beneath what would be required to express God's thoughts that it is inevitable that it sometimes fails to encompass it and therefore seems "unrigorous". Catholicism's attachment to intellectualism (Thomism, etc) is one more sign that it is not as faithful as it should be to the spirit of Christianity. The more you pursue "intellectual rigor", the more you risk falling back into Gnosticism, which is without a doubt the worst possible heresy.


Today, yes. In the 16th century, no.


The "original" Christianity was in Greek and its "Popes" had their sees in Alexandria and Antioch. Catholicism (the Roman Church) is very far from that. Before the year 1000, Rome played a negligible role in the shaping of Christianity. The bishop of Rome was not even present at Nicea, Ephesus or Chalcedon for the major councils.


What?


Modern protestants are degenerates but so are gay and pedophile priests. The Catholic church is in no position to lecture anyone.


In theory, no. But that is a Jesuit argument. In practice, the only places where you can find people praying in a Catholic church today, outside of Mass times, are the little side chapels dedicated to Mary. Mary worship is the reality of Catholic devotion, even if the theory says otherwise.


Sola Scriptura is no more "irrational" than the Trinity or the resurrection, the miracles, etc. The point was to scrape off all the semi-pagan baggage that had accreted onto the Church during its first 1500 years of existence (the cult of saints, the pilgrimages, the "holy" water, and all the rest) . The "5 Solas" were just slogans to rally people behind this goal. They were successful at that.


Really? No one knows what happened during the first century of the Church. Did Peter go to Rome? Did he "found" the Roman see? There is no way to substantiate those claims because there are simply no reliable sources. If the curia did not shrink from forging the Donation of Constantine or the Pseudo-Isidorian decretals, what credibility does it have regarding apostolic succession?


Whenever I discuss with educated catholics, I always have the same impression. They do not believe in God; they believe in the Church (like the Communists of old used to believe in the Party). Are you not supposed to worship the creator, rather than the creature?
I am actually going to rescind on this one. It's clear you know more than me and at this point i will embarass myself if i attempt to refute you further. I will say very well written and well argued.
 
All of our problems in society have been caused by a rejection of proper sexual morality as it has been defined by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church teaches that the main purpose of sex/marriage is procreation, and that people should be monogamous (as that's the most stable environment for children to be raised in). Under this model, everyone would have a wife and there would be no incels.

Meanwhile, the current sexual hypergamous culture says sex is only for pleasure, meaning all the chads and the stacies get all the sex and the incels are left with nothing.

Therefore, it's only logical for all incels to convert to Catholicism and do everything possible to spread its doctrine. We need to have another Crusade where we spread the faith and its doctrine... a Reconquista of the West, to spread Catholic doctrine throughout society and end hypergamy.
I’m atheist and proud:smonk:
 
im atheist but i like taking some influence from satanism and paganism because i hate christkikes
Why would you follow something that, when widely adopted, harms you?
 

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