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From the good cuck project
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/3-big-reasons-why-men-should-get-married-chwm/

1. Better Diet.

For some reason, I stopped eating beef, pork, and lamb the evening I met my wife. Knowing that she was a vegetarian, I stopped myself from ordering a bloody cheeseburger on our first casual date. And I have never looked back. Recently, I stopped eating poultry, too.

Thankfully, my wife never asked me to change my carnivorous habits. But she noticed my mealtime choices, and on her own met me halfway by shifting to a diet that now includes fish. I know that she would prefer that we both existed on veggies and various forms of non-animal protein, but she is a very wise and giving person and it is working out nicely. I feel great.

Hey, I did the whole bachelor thing—you probably know a guy whose staples are ketchup, toilet paper, beer, and ESPN. I pigged out at business dinners and worked out enough to maintain my fitness, but it took a woman’s touch to gently guide me to healthier dietary choices.

The bonus is that my energy level is way up and I do not miss the meat or the bacon. That’s just me, but I attribute it to my wife’s quiet leadership by example. She has the metabolism of a hummingbird. She loves to eat and she’s an amazing cook so there is always great-tasting food in our home. Bonus points.

JFL
He needed a FOID to become vegetarian!

2. Better Friendship. Better Sex.

If you are a married guy and your wife is not your best friend, to me that’s a red flag. Healthy couples like to spend time together. I’ve been in a few ongoing relationships where we spent most of the time rumpling the sheets. No complaints, but eventually we had to get up and go out, and that’s when the issues surfaced.

It’s entirely possible to have great sexual chemistry and not much else in common. Maybe that’s ironic, but I took it for what it was, went back for more, and I did not look back. Thankfully, my marriage is robust in this area too, which brings us to this: Another blogger asked your Guy’s Guy to write something about what men want. Brilliant topic. But, the answer is short. In fact, it is only one word: More. Yep, that’s what men want. More.


For me, and I am sure for other guys (see Mick Jagger), “more” meant a variety of partners. I get it. That said, I always recalled reading a quote by a handsome, professional football star who said that he had learned that you can go deeper with the right woman than you can by sharing your swimmers with a half-dozen ladies. It stuck in my mind and I finally realized that he was right. Of course, I took my time to find out. In fact, I took as much time as possible to find out.

JFL
He needed a FOID to have sex and have a friend!

3. Better Health.

I’m sure you have all read about the studies that claim married guys outlive their single counterparts. Men are lonely, solitary hunters. That’s what we do. And most of us do not eat that well, we do not get enough sleep, and we spend too much time watching sports, drinking beer, and chasing women.

That’s after spending ten hours a day competing in our jobs and dealing with the stress that comes from urban living, high-pressure careers, and a troublesome economy. Of course, married guys (if they are with the right woman) live longer.

I can go on and on, and I am not trying to score brownie points with you or my wife. I’m just doing what Guy’s Guys do. We call them as we see them and we learn from our mistakes. So next time you hear one of the guys (especially if he is over forty) crowing about how great it is to be single and prowling the bars in the city, ask him a few questions about all of the above. You may get an interesting response.

He needed a FOID to sleep (I kinda agree), and to serve him, but hey lets look at it from what a married woman says.

Even a feminist tells men to stop cucking themselves https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bl...ns-no-man-should-marry-and-1-reason-he-might/

1. You’ll lose the respect of the world
Once upon a time, getting married and settling down and having kids and taking on a mortgage was the very definition of manhood. All those things made you an adult, worthy of respect and admiration. In 2015, those things make you a chump. Father knows best has been replaced with the image of fathers as bumbling, slovenly idiots who would be sleeping in a dumpster if it were not for the controlling, condescending shrew he married.

2. Your sex life will die
According to Dr. Helen Smith, who wrote Men On Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood and the American Dream, married men have more sex, on average, than single men, but the men having the most sex, and the most satisfying sex are men cohabiting, but not married to their partners. Unmarried women know that sex is part of the deal, and refusing regularly jeopardizes the whole relationship. Married women understand they can use sex as a weapon, because the costs of divorce are so high.

3. You will lose your space
In most marriages, women treat the house and all the rooms in it as theirs. You might get a mancave or a closet to keep your things in, but you can be sure whatever space you have is not going to be in the main section of the house. Gone are the offices, the dens, the rec rooms, the billiards rooms with a wetbar. Spaces designed for the comfort of men have been torn out of family homes, reflecting a new social reality in which men are not considered central to the family.

4. Divorce will financially ruin you
Getting legally married is like betting half your stuff she won’t cheat on you. No matter what she contributed, or did not contribute to the marriage, half of your stuff is hers. It works in reverse too, if she happens to be wealthier than you, but in general, men earn more money than women, so the reality is she’ll be taking your stuff. If you are not married, she has no claim on your assets, nor you on hers. That fact alone makes rejecting marriage the smartest financial move a man can make.

5. You’ll lose your family
If you have kids, she’ll be taking those, too. Women get custody of children 80% of the time, and you will be lucky to see your children a few weekends a month. You will have to pay her for the privilege of seeing your own children, too, but you have no legal right to make certain that money is being spent caring for your children. If she spends the money at the hair salon, that’s her business. If you refuse to pay her, you’ll go to jail. Oh, the children don’t even have to be yours. You can and will be made to support children she fathered with another man.

So why the hell would any man marry? It only applies to men who want children. If you do not legally marry the mother of your children, those children legally belong to her. You have no legal right to be a presumed parent to your children, and it is virtually impossible for an unmarried father to gain access to his children if the mother does not agree.

All things considered, marriage is a shit deal for men. When I got married, I had no idea I was asking my husband to take these risks. He didn’t know either. We do have children, so I’m glad we married, but it’s completely depressing to know the main function of my marriage is to keep me from being a complete monster to him by running away with his children. Obviously, I would never do that, but reality is reality. Gloria Steinem once said that “women’s total instinct for gambling is satisfied by marriage,” but the truth is that it is men who have the most to lose when they legally wed.

Men should think very carefully before saying “I do.” It can easily turn into “I’m fucked.”

From the womans perspective https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bl...oman-should-marry-and-1-reason-she-might-not/

1. He’ll be considered your personal property

Once upon a time, getting married and settling down and having kids and taking on a mortgage was the definition of manhood. All those things made him an adult, worthy of respect and admiration. In 2015, those things make him a chump, and women can capitalize on that! Father knows best has been replaced with the image of fathers as bumbling, slovenly idiots who would be sleeping in a dumpster if it were not for the intelligent, capable, multi-tasking heroine he married. You will always be considered the captain of your ship, with your man the blundering first officer, and that can translate into some cold, hard cash, if you play your cards right. Never miss a moment to reinforce your ability and his ignorance.

2. You can control him via sex

Men are animals and will do anything for the big O, amirite? Want new boots? A new car? A new house? Starve him for a few weeks/months (here’s a helpful spreadsheet of plausible excuses) and then begrudgingly deliver a BJ or lie back and think of England. When in the throes of gratitude, he will promise you whatever you want. This can be used to great effect. Force him to beg you, make him feel his vulnerability. Don’t forget to remind him that if he seeks “fulfillment” anywhere else, his money, house and kids are yours. Weaponize your sexuality, ladies.

3. Take away his space

A house decorated strictly in florals, pastels and eyelet lace will remind your man that he is merely a visitor in your home, at your discretion. Avoid plaids, animal prints, solid colors or stripes, which are gender neutral and inviting to both sexes. Under no circumstances, allow your man a portion of the home to customize for his own needs, unless it is in the basement, attic or garage. No one gives a shit about those spaces anyways. Berate him loudly and endlessly for setting out a table runner that does not match the linen napkins. That jerk should know better, and more importantly, he should know that if home is where the heart is, the heart is all yours.

4. Divorce will set you up financially

Shacking up with your man can be fun and you’ll get to use his stuff pretty freely (men are so gorgeously generous that way, aren’t they?), but if you piss him off, say, by fucking his best friend, and he shows you the gate, it will be a hard slog to grab some of his stuff for yourself. It’s not impossible, by any means, and you can keep some of his goodies, but the easier way to grab all that stuff is by making it legal. Let’s face it ladies, the law is on our side, and a low cut blouse, some artfully placed makeup, a few tears and cha-ching! That shit is ours! But only if you’re legally married. Don’t worry about pre-nups. Sign away. Bash your arms against a cabinet the day you sign, photograph the bruises, email them to yourself with a date stamp and that pre-nup is about as valuable as roll of Charmin. Aim for a man who has some stuff you want, duh. Cars, houses, pensions, stocks – be smart and the world is your oyster. Or rather, his oyster is your oyster. Same dif.

5. You’ll keep your family

Don’t believe any of the “he’ll get your kids” hype. It’s total bullshit. A few domestic violence allegations (make them early in the proceedings, ladies), a casual sex abuse of the children accusation and those kids are yours. Sure, you’ll have to give them up one or two weekends a month, but that’s just an opportunity to use some of the child support to tour a vineyard with your besties! Silver linings! And hot oenophiles at the shiraz tasting, too!


Win!


So why the hell would any woman not marry? It only applies to women who want total control of children. Married fathers will get a tiny amount of access to children. Unmarried fathers will not. Those kids are yours, 100%, if you didn’t promise til death do us part. You can make him pay to support those kids, but if it ain’t legal, he sees them never. It’s your call. Super smart women will get married and then make sure the kids have different fathers, because that opens the door to double-dipping! You can sue your husband (the schmuck) for child support and the natural father of the child. It’s winning all around!


All things considered, marriage is a sweet deal for women. A grown adult woman can never work a day in her life if she knows how to use her uterus, and the law, to her advantage. Get a man to marry you. His shit is yours. Have kids with another man and grab both for support.


70% of young American men are unmarried? Gee, I wonder why? Even she is blackpilled
 
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Great post OP.
21th century marriage is suicide
 
Great post OP.
21th century marriage is suicide
I was legit looking for reasons to marry since I know its a bad idea, but JFL when all the answers are cucked and even this popped up. Surprised this woman is so blackpilled
 
21:st century marriage = perpetually cold bedroom in less than one month. If there is sex at all it's all starfish.
 
Not gonna read all that tbh.

I have plenty of good role models when it comes to marriages. One divorced cousin (who got back together 2 years later), but four others going strong, When it comes to family get togethers I used to see them all arrive with their kids and happy families and wish it was me.

I might be an Incel, but I have my self-respect. As far as I'm concerned if you get into a marriage and let those things happen it's because you are weak.
 
I might be an Incel, but I have my self-respect. As far as I'm concerned if you get into a marriage and let those things happen it's because you are weak.
Holy fuck you are dumb. She has you by the fucking balls in a marriage, you can’t do anything to manipulate her to stay besides being more Chad than any other man she has access too.

Since you are on a incels forum, you will be lucky to betabux and get divorced in a few years.
 
Holy fuck you are dumb. She has you by the fucking balls in a marriage, you can’t do anything to manipulate her to stay besides being more Chad than any other man she has access too.

Since you are on a incels forum, you will be lucky to betabux and get divorced in a few years.

In what way does the woman have you by the balls unless you let her?

If you don't like the marriage, get divorced.

"B....b...but divorce rape you c-c-cuck!!!"

Who is getting divorce raped? If you're not earning sufficiently more (which most men don't these days) and you have a pre-nup (which whilst it may not be legally binding, but statistically are upheld by judges) then what do you have to fear? Shit marriage then get divorced.

"B..b...but alimony!!"

So don't have kids then.

I'm only saying that in a marriage it's important that the man doesn't let himself be walked over and treated like shit. But apparently I'm dumb for thinking that's possible?
 
In what way does the woman have you by the balls unless you let her?

If you don't like the marriage, get divorced.

"B....b...but divorce rape you c-c-cuck!!!"

Who is getting divorce raped? If you're not earning sufficiently more (which most men don't these days) and you have a pre-nup (which whilst it may not be legally binding, but statistically are upheld by judges) then what do you have to fear? Shit marriage then get divorced.

"B..b...but alimony!!"

So don't have kids then.

I'm only saying that in a marriage it's important that the man doesn't let himself be walked over and treated like shit. But apparently I'm dumb for thinking that's possible?
You will never get married unless you betabux aka make more money than your wife. They base alimony off your future potential income, so if you have a degree or a past work record, they will make you pay even if you are unemployed at the time.
 
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You will never get married unless you betabux aka make more money than your wife. They base alimony off your future potential income, so if you have a degree or a past work record, they will make you pay even if you are unemployed at the time.

Look I'm not arguing maintenance payments arent complete cancer. I'm just saying realistically you only need to worry about them if you earn sufficiently more.

And you don't need to keep attacking me. I'm well aware I won't get married.
 
Wow you're postamaxxing hard. Just a few days ago you had two times less posts than you have know. Keep it up. :feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:
What do you mean? I had like 1100 posts a few days ago?
 
I might be an Incel, but I have my self-respect. As far as I'm concerned if you get into a marriage and let those things happen it's because you are weak.
yeah except the laws has you on grab. its like someone pointing a gun at u and u tied up with ur hands at rear

u can only manipulate her so long as that
eventually u fail or it becomes not enough
 

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