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Blackpill LDAR Culture Should Be Banned From Incel Forums, It's What Society & The Government Wants (LDAR Is A Psyop To Keep Men Disenfranchised)

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If someone doesn't want to have children he can do a vasectomy.
I really don't trust that shit lol. Lets say I fuck 3 whores in one day, isn't just some kind of concern for "clogging". My testicles and the small tubes that rapidly send sperm out to be released will be under a lot of pressure if I cum too many times per day because it will be "backed up" as there's no where for the sperm to go, before the sperm cells die and get reabsorbed into my body.

EDIT - Ok I feel fucking stupid, just googled and it looks like the tubes where your semen is sent out is separate from the tubes where your sperm is sent out. So after a vasectomy you still ejaculate semen, the semen just doesn't contain any sperm.

I literally thought this entire time that men with vasectomies didn't even ejaculate anything :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:.

Ok, I'm definitely getting one at some point, this is like some kind of cheat code. I don't like pain, but it's a one and done, and I'll never be getting the surgery undone anyways, I'll never want any children (I know myself).
 
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I really don't trust that shit lol. Lets say I fuck 3 whores in one day, isn't just some kind of concern for "clogging". My testicles and the small tubes that rapidly send sperm out to be released will be under a lot of pressure if I cum too many times per day because it will be "backed up" as there's no where for the sperm to go, before the sperm cells die and get reabsorbed into my body.

EDIT - Ok I feel fucking stupid, just googled and it looks like the tubes where your semen is sent out is separate from the tubes where your sperm is sent out. So after a vasectomy you still ejaculate semen, the semen just doesn't contain any sperm.

I literally thought this entire time that men with vasectomies didn't even ejaculate anything :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:.

Ok, I'm definitely getting one at some point, this is like some kind of cheat code. I don't like pain, but it's a one and done, and I'll never be getting the surgery undone anyways, I'll never want any children (I know myself).
I knew that after vasectomy man ejaculate semen, but no spermatozoids.
Noteless I still dont trust it, because this spermatozoids still want to escape their place and they cant, so... do it really have no health consequences? Who the hell knows.
In 80% of cases its even reversable - you just don't know if its reversable until you try to reverse it.
 
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Noteless I still dont trust it, because this spermatozoids still want to escape their place and they cant
If women aren't worried about sperm in their ass and mouth, I don't think we have to be worried about our sperm "going berserk" when they are in their home environment lol.

If they aren't fucking shit up to escape whilst surrounded by fecal matter I'm pretty sure were safe :feelskek:.

so... do it really have no health consequences? Who the hell knows.
Based on what I've read it seems pretty safe. Of course you better not cheap out when it comes to this and end up fucking up your dick. I will make sure and go to the best of the best with the highest success rate, regardless of the cost. I'm cheap as fuck but I won't play games with this.

In 80% of cases its even reversable - you just don't know if its reversable until you try to reverse it.
I never said it's not reversable, I said I would never reverse it and that's why I don't mind the pain factor (because I'll only have to do it once).
 
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Being a NEET is a privilege. Not every incel can afford being a NEET. Most incels will eventually have to get a job, unfortunately.
I wish I were a rentier.
100% correct.
 
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There are multiple filters that explain the tendency of incel-adjacent communities to lean toward LDAR lifestyle as well as the unlikeliness of getting fellow incels into positions of power and changing the status quo:
-inferior genes - by default, being an incel means it's unlikely that you come from a lineage of successful people. A lower percentage of this community is capable of achieving greatness.
-low drive - a simple result of a life filled with failure and social isolation. Incels don't feel invested in society and tend not to work hard as a result.
-workplace disadvantage - lower chance of achieving high positions compared to attractive, neuro nondivergent normie peers.
-normiefication - a lot of former incels native to this forum turn their back on the blackpill as soon as they get their dick wet. What are the odds that someone who spends years of their life grinding and actually achieves the success that you speak of will not at any point become a betabux and abandon their beliefs?

I strongly reject the idea that the society wants incels to LDAR and be a drag on the welfare system. As I see it, the ideal place for us in their eyes would be working in some socially necessary blue collar job and taking care of a barren foid + Chad's unwanted children.
 
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I strongly reject the idea that the society wants incels to LDAR and be a drag on the welfare system.
This is the cope LDAR retards have, there's not enough of them to make a dent. If all the women on welfare isn't a "drag" what the hell do you think a few more thousand guys will be.

They get their benefit on the "back end" by keeping these men neutered and unable to invoke change in the world.
 
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They get their benefit on the "back end" by keeping these men neutered and unable to invoke change in the world.
Being an incel means you're in a neutered state by default. As soon as women became independent and equal by law to men, a certain % of males being incels is pretty much inevitable. LDAR is not necessary to achieve that. Someone who works hard to change his situation and "make it" out of inceldom will basically tear down another man, creating another incel. The sex market in its current state is a zero-sum game for men, the only way to get out of it really is to enslave women, which isn't gonna happen even if a significant portion of us gets to positions of power.
LDAR being a psyop just doesn't make sense logically. Why wouldn't they want the bottom tier men to keep working and having families? Why wouldn't they want incels to pass on inferior genes for their slave class? Why would we see LDAR pop up in many different cultures, many of which are openly fighting against it (hikkis in Japan, lying flat in China etc.)? What's so unbelievable about men with no stake in society wanting to check out?
From what I can see, you feel disdain towards LDAR and people who partake in it. You dislike it and think the mentality is pathetic, therefore psyop. There's no real logic or evidence behind it.
 
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Being an incel means you're in a neutered state by default.
No it doesn't, this LDAr retarded mindset needs to stop, what you're saying is meme bullshit, it has nothing to do with real life. You being ugly has nothing to do with you starting an online business and making yourself wealthy, or you getting into real estate and making yourself wealthy, etc.

You idiots want to pass everything off on your looks so oy have the excuse to do nothing. I've seen enough ugly guys with money that have hot bitches on their arm (IRL) for me to know that what you're saying is bullshit.
 
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No it doesn't, this LDAr retarded mindset needs to stop, what you're saying is meme bullshit, it has nothing to do with real life. You being ugly has nothing to do with you starting an online business and making yourself wealthy, or you getting into real estate and making yourself wealthy, etc.

You idiots want to pass everything off on your looks so oy have the excuse to do nothing. I've seen enough ugly guys with money that have hot bitches on their arm (IRL) for me to know that what you're saying is bullshit.
there are many ugly curry millionaires in tech. far uglier than vast majority of users here. And they often started in worst situations too. Yet still money maxxed in end. Most users don't have the energy to push thru. They don't have a vision nor a dream.
 
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there are many ugly curry millionaires in tech. far uglier than vast majority of users here. And they often started in worst situations too. Yet still money maxxed in end. Most users don't have the energy to push thru. They don't have a vision nor a dream.
That's the funny thing, there are guys who were literally born in slums and crawled their way to the top lol. The fact that we have guys living in 1st world countries making these ridiculous excuses is what's so funny.
 
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No it doesn't, this LDAr retarded mindset needs to stop, what you're saying is meme bullshit, it has nothing to do with real life. You being ugly has nothing to do with you starting an online business and making yourself wealthy, or you getting into real estate and making yourself wealthy, etc.
I was talking about being neutered in a more literal sense, as in being unable to create offspring.
I never argued that you can't wealthmaxx, in fact I'm trying to do that myself with limited success so far.
You idiots want to pass everything off on your looks so oy have the excuse to do nothing. I've seen enough ugly guys with money that have hot bitches on their arm (IRL) for me to know that what you're saying is bullshit.
What's the problem with doing nothing though? If someone is satisfied with a bare minimum life on dole, good for them. Nowadays all you need is a PC with an internet connection to have access to virtually unlimited free entertainment.
 
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there are many ugly curry millionaires in tech. far uglier than vast majority of users here. And they often started in worst situations too. Yet still money maxxed in end. Most users don't have the energy to push thru. They don't have a vision nor a dream.
That’s useless pipe dream
There is a finite good jobs out there

System is flawed not everyone is supposed to live comfortably
 
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I've been actually discussing about this subject to a fellowcel just recently and it occured to me what would happen if incels fraternitymaxxed like kikes do irl and start taking globohomo down from ground zero by attaining wealth and positions of power to spread their influence in the west

Unfortunately, just like all these comments above have said ad nauseam, we both came to the conclusion that making such drastic [UWSL]infrastructural[/UWSL] changes is as unlikely as it gets especially short term wise, because of many reasons:

1. Incels as a whole are a deorganized bunch and they don't even agree with each other most of the time on this forum, let alone irl when most are very distrustful and paranoid of people in general

2. Wealth unless attained by birth, requires both extreme hard work and mental capacity to achieve. These are two things most truecels certainly lack of including myself, since even though I used to be pretty bright/above average at school now I'm as close to a failure as you can get. Failed two consecutive semesters from different careers as a freshman due to lack of drive and motivation which in turn caused IQ rot. You'd be hard pressed to find any non-depressed person who suffered from social isolation their whole life.

3. Being ugly by default puts you at a disadvantage, even if you manage to overcome all of these issues you'd have to deal with NPCs trying to sabotage your progress so you would have to work many times as hard as the average person to [UWSL]millionairemaxx[/UWSL] unless you're naturally gifted. All those ugly curries/rice you see at tech and esports are the exception, not the norm.
 
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only retards live and promote that lifestyle. they are good for nothing. They paint exact picture of men that dont have sex that media government and normies want.
 
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1. Who said anything about a job?

2. There's only a finite amount of incels.

Jobs = statusmaxx

Inceldom is actually growing, demographic will be the biggest in few years
 
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Jobs = statusmaxx

Inceldom is actually growing, demographic will be the biggest in few years
Who gives a fuck about status?, it's money that's important.

Would you rather be broke and famous, or rich and unknown?
 
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Yes, it would be really good if we had a forum with the correct people in it, who focus on what we can do instead of what we can't and how because we can't change some aspects of our life we better give up.

Money making, escorts, etc. We could share and do so many things. While in reality the only thing we supposedly do is to ldar and cry about our circumstances.

I feel like there's a lot of young people here, if we were more old on avg maybe this thing wouldnt happen. Most people don't understand the reality of their situation until they're old enough
 
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I’m currently attempting to money maxxx and go from there. It’s all I can do at the moment, really.
 
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Yes, it would be really good if we had a forum with the correct people in it, who focus on what we can do instead of what we can't and how because we can't change some aspects of our life we better give up.

Money making, escorts, etc. We could share and do so many things. While in reality the only thing we supposedly do is to ldar and cry about our circumstances.

This would be the best thing to do. Unfortunatly, most incels are young and unable to properly money max.
Most of them would not participate much to this forum, and only a handful would actually give good advices, with nothing in return.
 
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Who gives a fuck about status?, it's money that's important.

Would you rather be broke and famous, or rich and unknown?
Well for women status is just as, if not more, important.
 
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neets are scums
 
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Well for women status is just as, if not more, important.
These same women can be bought to spread open their legs, every woman has a price, so I don't believe they care that much about "status" at all. It's just them trying to get as much as possible. If you are constantly "fielding offers" why wouldn't you try to get the best deal possible?

Also, women only value status because of it's connection to wealth. If there was a high status man that was living in poverty, there wouldn't be very many women flocking to him. In fact a poor high status man doesn't even sound possible, and that's exactly my point.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

If women had any dignity there'd be no such thing as prostitution. Every woman who is poor can literally do what every man who is poor does. Get a crappy job, work hard, and slave away to survive, slowly pulling yourself up over the years to a halfway decent life. But do they do that?, no, they instead opt to take the easy way out and take payment to get their holes ravaged.

The funny thing is, after throwing away their dignity like that, they don't even spend and invest their money properly. They spend money frivolously and waste it.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

This is exactly why women are 80% of the consumer base and women own two thirds of all student debt (which currently stands at around 900+ Billion). To make it even worse they don't even make their career choices logically, it all comes down to emotion, and that's why they usually get crappy degrees in low paying fields (only to then complain about the "pay gap").

Realistically there really shouldn't even be such a thing as "prostitution", the fact that it exists is a testament to female nature.

Women value resources and survival over everything else, dignity is not in their vocabulary. All the talk they give about status is simply them doing what every woman does (hypergamy). It's just them aiming for the stars and hoping to fall and land on a cloud.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

50+% of marriages end in divorce (the #1 stated reason is finances)
The chances of divorce increase by 33% if a woman out earns her husband
Women initiate 70% of all divorces
If you filter that stat to college educated women, women initiate 90% of all divorces
Etc, etc, etc

Women only value status because they are never satisfied and they will always try to get as much as possible, that's just how hypergamy works.

But their ACTIONS show that they value resources (money) more than status. A woman will divorce a high status man and lose the prestige of being his "wife", because she values the divorce payout she gets more than the status of being that man's wife.

A woman being married is a well known status symbol in society, always has been. If women value status so much, why did they start divorcing like crazy as soon as no fault divorce laws came into effect?

Why are they initiating 70% to 90% of divorces, with the #1 stated reason being finances?

Why does the chances of divorce go up if a woman out earns her husband and isn't dependent on his money if women value status so much?

All you have to do is look at the stats, peoples words don't matter. Women also say that personality matters to them, are we going to believe that too?
 
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These same women can be bought to spread open their legs, every woman has a price, so I don't believe they care that much about "status" at all. It's just them trying to get as much as possible. If you are constantly "fielding offers" why wouldn't you try to get the best deal possible?

Also, women only value status because of it's connection to wealth. If there was a high status man that was living in poverty, there wouldn't be very many women flocking to him. In fact a poor high status man doesn't even sound possible, and that's exactly my point.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

If women had any dignity there'd be no such thing as prostitution. Every woman who is poor can literally do what every man who is poor does. Get a crappy job, work hard, and slave away to survive, slowly pulling yourself up over the years to a halfway decent life. But do they do that?, no, they instead opt to take the easy way out and take payment to get their holes ravaged.

The funny thing is, after throwing away their dignity like that, they don't even spend and invest their money properly. They spend money frivolously and waste it.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

This is exactly why women are 80% of the consumer base and women own two thirds of all student debt (which currently stands at around 900+ Billion). To make it even worse they don't even make their career choices logically, it all comes down to emotion, and that's why they usually get crappy degrees in low paying fields (only to then complain about the "pay gap").

Realistically there really shouldn't even be such a thing as "prostitution", the fact that it exists is a testament to female nature.

Women value resources and survival over everything else, dignity is not in their vocabulary. All the talk they give about status is simply them doing what every woman does (hypergamy). It's just them aiming for the stars and hoping to fall and land on a cloud.

Don't listen to women's words, look at their actions.

50+% of marriages end in divorce (the #1 stated reason is finances)
The chances of divorce increase by 33% if a woman out earns her husband
Women initiate 70% of all divorces
If you filter that stat to college educated women, women initiate 90% of all divorces
Etc, etc, etc

Women only value status because they are never satisfied and they will always try to get as much as possible, that's just how hypergamy works.

But their ACTIONS show that they value resources (money) more than status. A woman will divorce a high status man and lose the prestige of being his "wife", because she values the divorce payout she gets more than the status of being that man's wife.

A woman being married is a well known status symbol in society, always has been. If women value status so much, why did they start divorcing like crazy as soon as no fault divorce laws came into effect?

Why are they initiating 70% to 90% of divorces, with the #1 stated reason being finances?

Why does the chances of divorce go up if a woman out earns her husband and isn't dependent on his money if women value status so much?

All you have to do is look at the stats, peoples words don't matter. Women also say that personality matters to them, are we going to believe that too?

Could not have said it any better.

Although I understand why some women may resort to whoring for money. The rate of pay is like +10 times higher than normal wageslave jobs, it requires much less effort to do than wageslave jobs, and its always in high demand. If I was born a female and became high-tier by adulthood, I think I would actually consider becoming an escort / e-whore, just because of the amount of money I would be able to make from it compared to normal wageslave jobs.
 
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These same women can be bought to spread open their legs, every woman has a price, so I don't believe they care that much about "status" at all....
What about poor artists? People at the top of their field in niche fields. Women interested in these things will invest these people with high status. Status is relative, and subjective.

An alpha chef at a restaurant will have high status, and will be somewhat admired, by all his subordinates there, even if he draws a relatively low wage.

I don't think marriage has the same social status these days, so it's barely a question of choosing money over status.

Some women will not prostitute themselves, unless pushed to a scenario when they have no alternative. The fact that some do it readily can't reasonably be used to extrapolate things about the whole gender.
 
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Unless you just want hookers, of course some status is needed; she's got to look good in front of her friends. Being a reclusive autistic millionaire who just does their own eccentric thing all day probably isn't going to cut it.
 
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I don't think marriage has the same social status these days, so it's barely a question of choosing money over status.
That's ironically because we gave women rights and set up the laws so that marriage no longer has the same value it did lol.
 
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this is one of the few moments that I'm disagreeing with u, blkpillprs. LDAR is more like a natural response, a symptom of a society when men don't see a future.

These cultures where 'face' is very important but have millions of LDARers - mainly Japan, China, have a huge stigma n disdain towards people who LDAR but yet LDAR persists.

LDAR being a psyop just doesn't make sense logically. Why wouldn't they want the bottom tier men to keep working and having families? Why wouldn't they want incels to pass on inferior genes for their slave class? Why would we see LDAR pop up in many different cultures, many of which are openly fighting against it (hikkis in Japan, lying flat in China etc.)? What's so unbelievable about men with no stake in society wanting to check out?
 
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Imagine if there were 500 incel millionaires from around the world, all socializing together, sharing information, pushing their own initiatives, lobbying for the laws that we want passed, involving ourselves in politics behind the scenes, investing in the things that would benefit the male collective, etc.
Secret incel society, masonic order style :feelsLSD::feelsLSD:
 
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I take issue with the idea that incels are low IQ or lazy. The problem is there is no real goal or objective. You take a 22 or 23 year old incel. Maybe he has some bachelors degree and makes his $55k a year starting. What motivates him to move up? Personal success? At the end of the day, we need a concrete goal to give these men. Create a special fund (like I said a long time ago) for shit like sexbot R&D that any male can donate to. Make it so that the government can't take it down, and offer that fund to companies that specialize in AI and sexdoll design who can meet a criteria we set fourth. Like a government contract. Preferably, we can draw on our partners from other parts of the manosphere (like MGTOWs) to get talent together so that WE can begin building this shit for ourselves without outside contractors.
 
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All I wanna do is ldar as an oldcel
 
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Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this just seems all too convenient to me. This forum started off pretty normal and then out of nowhere LDAR started popping up like crazy. I really do think some kind of "psyop" is being run on the forum to demotivate incels in order to keep the status quo going.

I think the one thing the government fears more than mass shootings, is for disenfranchised men with more expendable income and free time than their counterparts (normies), to band together and focus on networking, building wealth, investing in our interests, and spreading our influence.

It is to the benefit of society that we LDAR and do nothing with our lives, it's keeps us right where they want us. Ironically if you wanted to take the ER route being a broke LDAR incel would keep you from buying the guns, body armor, etc required to even carry out your attack.

LDAR culture is about neutering the incel population, and keeping us docile and complacent.

Imagine if there were 500 incel millionaires from around the world, all socializing together, sharing information, pushing their own initiatives, lobbying for the laws that we want passed, involving ourselves in politics behind the scenes, investing in the things that would benefit the male collective, etc.

That's much worse than a mass shooting as far as the government or society is concerned.


Their main concern is to stop the spread of civil unrest among men, and more importantly, keep men disenfranchised so they can't do anything to go against the status quo.

Imagine if a large collective of wealthy men were investing in things like sex dolls, sex robot technology, lobbying for the legalization of prostitution, pushing for changes in the court system, making paternity tests mandatory for all children, etc.

Imagine if propaganda was being pushed that lowered the marriage rates to be 25% lower than they are now?

Imagine if a disruptive technology like a male "birth control" pill with little to no side effects was released on the market. Imagine how much that shit would affect the income of the family court system, as less and less men get random woman pregnant and end up on child support.

Etc, etc, etc.

It wouldn't even take more than a few million in research to create a viable "male birth control pill", I'm sure of it, I'm sure it's already been discovered.

But it will never be let on the market, do you know why?

It's because no company would release it because they stand to make more money by keeping it off of the market. But as incels we won't be doing it for the money, we'll be doing it to fuck with society (and of course we'd still make a profit).

Society survives by extracting resources from men and distributing it to everyone else (especially women). Pretty much all of these systems revolve around the monopoly that women have over sexual resources, and how they leverage that against men:

The child support system is only thriving because women have a one sided control over whether a pregnancy happens or not. There are many women lying and saying that they are on birth control, or a condom breaks during sex, etc. Then after she gets pregnant, the man is completely at her mercy, and the government will gladly extract and transfer his resources to the woman (after taking it's cut).

A male birth control pill makes that harder to do, it would put the control in men's hands, because a woman wouldn't get pregnant even if she lied or even if the condom broke. It would 100% be in the man's control, it would drastically shift the power dynamic in dating.

Pharmaceutical companies stand to make more money by keeping the power of reproduction in the hands of women rather than in the hands of men, and that's exactly why they haven't released a viable male birth control pill despite likely having a working product formula.

I'm seeing some videos sying that one exists and "may be available soon" (dated months ago) but I doubt it. That shit will get shut down or released with some bad side effects to deter men.
How do you stop incels from backstabbing each other like normies?
 
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How do you stop incels from backstabbing each other like normies?
Most incels are just failed normies, that's the sad part.

The black pill is separate from inceldom.

A lot of incels like to say they are black pilled but they really aren't.

They are just bandwagonists that have been forced to take a side, they are just biding their time on forums like this. It's like that clice red pill saying - "The average man is one blowjob away from running back to the plantation".

For the average incel it's worse, they are one "hug" or "warm smile" away from doing the same lol.

This is why you keep seeing retards posting threads about "needing some more black pills" as if they need something to remind them of reality.

You are either black pilled or you aren't. You've either accepted the truth completely or you haven't.

Most incels simply haven't, and they never will. They are only here "for a time" and they can't be trusted.
 
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You see @BlkPillPres?

Now it’s THIS kind of shit why I and the rest of the staff I’m sure keeps and has kept you around.

This is a genius thread, perhaps your best ever. :feelshehe:

That said however while this is a more than worthy argument to put forward it seems just as likely ZOG would be against LDAR because with tons of men dropping out of their system’s work force the logic then goes that theoretically it should be far harder for the ruling Jews and their oligarch toadies to keep Clown World running.

However counter to that goes that Jews want LDAR because they want America to first eventually collapse, then fall into its second civil war then WWIII, then they get their ultimate checkmate if all goes well of global communist government ruled by them out of their new seat of power in China.

Anyway though forget just incels but if the total men’s rights movement or rather manosphere collective of all races could get to that level of financial greatness and simply implement your idea with it we’d have the Jews/Bolsheviks/Commies/SJW’s/Antifa/Leftist soys by their itty bitty balls.
 
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Most incels are just failed normies, that's the sad part.

The black pill is separate from inceldom.

A lot of incels like to say they are black pilled but they really aren't.

They are just bandwagonists that have been forced to take a side, they are just biding their time on forums like this. It's like that clice red pill saying - "The average man is one blowjob away from running back to the plantation".

For the average incel it's worse, they are one "hug" or "warm smile" away from doing the same lol.

This is why you keep seeing retards posting threads about "needing some more black pills" as if they need something to remind them of reality.

You are either black pilled or you aren't. You've either accepted the truth completely or you haven't.

Most incels simply haven't, and they never will. They are only here "for a time" and they can't be trusted.
We'll literally need a cult leader like the Prophet Muhammed or something to keep failed Normie's in line
 
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