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That advice is shitty. You're not being honest with yourself and about your goals, you're wasting people's time including your own and you're creating breeding ground for frustration and sadness once you get rejected by a girl you already grew closer to.
"Indirect game" (not telling the woman straight away you're interested, or at least making it clear through jokes, teasing, flirting, etc) in all of its variants is bullshit. Physical attraction is a prerequisite to romance and sex. If you don't meet the person's attraction threshold, it's over and there's nothing you can do about it. There's no such thing as "I found him ugly at first but then I progressively started to like him when I got to know his personality". When girls say that, they're using the word "ugly" as in "some 6/10 normie who's somewhat attractive to me but not quite a Chad", and such guy would have gotten her anyway if he approached directly in a favorable time. Of course some other things can help you, but those are just multipliers. "Oh, that attractive guy is also nice/likes X/whatever" - this is like a "x 1.1" multiplier; if the initial number (physical attraction) is 0, anything times 0 is 0 as well.
If a girl doesn't respond positively to at least some flirting from the very beginning, you shouldn't invest any time into her anymore. You'll just grow more and more attached to her until a tidal wave of negative feelings comes your way once you finally work up the courage to make a move and get rejected or find out she's dating/fucking some other guy. Waiting is always the worst decision when it comes to women.
As for the "have fun" part, no one spends 24/7 lying in their bed crying because they can't get a gf, or approaching and trying nonstop, or even a mix of the two. Of course people have fun and distract themselves with other things and have other activities, that's a given. But when you go out to a social place like a bar or club, or go on Tinder, or go to some venue to approach, of course your goal is to get with a woman. If you wanted to just have fun, you probably had a shitload of better options. Putting yourself on the line for potential rejection isn't fun. Of course sulking and acting like a retard will jeopardize your chances, but if you have bare minimum social intelligence you won't do it while approaching. You don't need to lie to yourself about your desires and goals in order not to do it.
You're just lying to yourself and shooting yourself on the foot if you follow that shitty advice.
"Indirect game" (not telling the woman straight away you're interested, or at least making it clear through jokes, teasing, flirting, etc) in all of its variants is bullshit. Physical attraction is a prerequisite to romance and sex. If you don't meet the person's attraction threshold, it's over and there's nothing you can do about it. There's no such thing as "I found him ugly at first but then I progressively started to like him when I got to know his personality". When girls say that, they're using the word "ugly" as in "some 6/10 normie who's somewhat attractive to me but not quite a Chad", and such guy would have gotten her anyway if he approached directly in a favorable time. Of course some other things can help you, but those are just multipliers. "Oh, that attractive guy is also nice/likes X/whatever" - this is like a "x 1.1" multiplier; if the initial number (physical attraction) is 0, anything times 0 is 0 as well.
If a girl doesn't respond positively to at least some flirting from the very beginning, you shouldn't invest any time into her anymore. You'll just grow more and more attached to her until a tidal wave of negative feelings comes your way once you finally work up the courage to make a move and get rejected or find out she's dating/fucking some other guy. Waiting is always the worst decision when it comes to women.
As for the "have fun" part, no one spends 24/7 lying in their bed crying because they can't get a gf, or approaching and trying nonstop, or even a mix of the two. Of course people have fun and distract themselves with other things and have other activities, that's a given. But when you go out to a social place like a bar or club, or go on Tinder, or go to some venue to approach, of course your goal is to get with a woman. If you wanted to just have fun, you probably had a shitload of better options. Putting yourself on the line for potential rejection isn't fun. Of course sulking and acting like a retard will jeopardize your chances, but if you have bare minimum social intelligence you won't do it while approaching. You don't need to lie to yourself about your desires and goals in order not to do it.
You're just lying to yourself and shooting yourself on the foot if you follow that shitty advice.
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