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AtheistCel

AtheistCel

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They don't understand we want validation.:feelsbadman::feelsbadman:
 
Escorts are legal here in australia, we have lots of korean and japanese escorts here that look like your favorite anime characters, and theres still incels here, im one of them

Even still, my clinical psychologist advises against using them for some reason.
 
Hookers wont fix shit
 
Hookers are legal in Poland and i refuse to pay them for sex since that shit won't give me emotional needs which i've been missing for over a decade, only physical and it still be much weaker than you would get by doing it with gf especially since you can't kiss or hug a hooker, and most of whores lie about their age, weight and how they look i won't pay $ for nasty whores.

So Rogan is low iq as always when he talk about incels, he should keep doing his show about drugs, aliens, nootropics and fasting/diets/weight loss/muscle building.
 
Give us loyal companionship not meaningless degenerate sexD
 
Hookers are legal in Poland and i refuse to pay them for sex since that shit won't give me emotional needs, only physical and it still be much weaker than you would get by doing it with gf especially since you can't kiss or hug a hooker, and most of whores lie about their age, weight and how they look i won't pay $ for nasty whores.

So Rogan is low iq as always when he talk about incels, he should keep doing his show about drugs, aliens, nootropics and fasting/diets/weight loss/muscle building.
Exactly
Hookers wont fix shit
 
Jfl nothing worse than giving money for sex imho. You know you're such a failure geneticwise that you're not good enough for women to fuck you so you use money to get them. Sexual betabuxxing
 
I can't listen to this guy anymore (unless it's with Eddie Bravo, love this guy), he's so out of touch.
 
Wow first time Rogan had a conversation about Incels that wasn't all bad, it was actually good. Nice, not as ignorant about the topic as I thought or he is evolving regarding it, seemed like a cool guest too
 
Wow first time Rogan had a conversation about Incels that wasn't all bad, it was actually good. Nice, not as ignorant about the topic as I thought or he is evolving regarding it,
I agree 100%, his view isn't perfect but it's leagues above Joe "incels should just become MEN, bro" Rogan from a few months ago. It definitely seems like he's swallowed some parts of the blackpill.
 
Normies will just shame us for escortceling
 
hookers dont fix shit

most of the time ur paying the pimp behind her , so ur giving ur money and effort to some dark triad alpha who gets it for free while u pay the whore who will look stare into the abyss and lie like a fish asking "are u done yet"?
 
But prostitution is legal in most Western countries, it's brothels and street prostitution that is illegal.
 
I agree 100%, his view isn't perfect but it's leagues above Joe "incels should just become MEN, bro" Rogan from a few months ago. It definitely seems like he's swallowed some parts of the blackpill.

Time wins over all.

Normies will just shame us for escortceling

Agreed.

On another note. It goes some way with dealing with inceldom & relieving our dire situation however it's not the end. Just a stepping stone so to speak.
 
But prostitution is legal in most Western countries, it's brothels and street prostitution that is illegal.

prostitution doesnt fix much, u still deal with a woman's instintcs
 
Even still, my clinical psychologist advises against using them for some reason.

Because they are prostitutes too and want all of your shekels to themselves..hookers while not a solution to inceldom are much more useful than these parasites..
 
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Because they are prostitutes too and want all of your shekels to themselves..hookers while not a solution to inceldom are much more valuable than these parasites..
if u give hookers that much power and accept them, they will become like normal women


in germany they already are picky with clients in some countries they require photo beforehand already
 
Escorting would make inceldom less painful
But it will never help with the need to be loved
 
Although it won't completely solve the issue, there still should be government issued brothels across the states. Maybe if we're lucky, it'll as least kill off twitch/patreon/Snapchat thots.
 
it won't solve anything, it's just a cope
 
They don't understand we want validation.:feelsbadman::feelsbadman:

Nah just egotistical idiots want validation, guys like you are InLon (Involuntarily Lonely), an InCel is Involuntarily Celibate, idiots need to stop making addendum to the definition to expand the degree of criteria so that they can latch onto the label

If I can gain cheap affordable access to sex, then that would help a lot

You guys are making my threads relevant, why does this BS have to keep being addressed, if your focus is being lonely, then you aren't really incel, because you don't care much for sex, InCELdom is about CELibacy, stop trying to twist the defintion to fit your egotistical "I DESERVE more" bullshit

FEMALE VALIDATION:
A lot of incels hold on to multiple concepts that contradict eachother.

They believe things about women related to evolution psychology that devalue their existence (they are genetically hardwired to be hypergamous, inherently selfish, etc), while at the same time they value their validation and what they think of them, those are two contradictory concepts, if women are as bad as the black pill tells us, and we truly believe it, then there is no reason to value anything they think.

I've been saying this for a while, nobody really wants female validation, we've just been indoctrinated over years as children and basically socialized to value and chase after it, that's because female validation is the prerequisite to what we really want, sex. Well its the prerequisite to attaining sex the "usual way" (courtship), you can just pay for it.

Its completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of you. They are basically like an AI running lines of code, would you care if an AI, something that has no true concept of reality and merely does what its "code" dictates, cares about you? (I doubt it).

Of what value is its evaluation of you, when it has no true sense of self. How can you devalue women as an existence, while at the same time claiming that their evaluation of you is something that matters (do you see the obvious contradiction yet?).

That would be like me saying I have a broken mirror, yet I trust its ability to give me an accurate reflection. One should only value the evaluation given by someone relative to how much they value the logical integrity of said person, in other words, if you truly believe everything the black pill says, then by valuing female validation, aren't you putting stake in the competency of a group of individuals, you yourself deem as incompetent?

Female validation is just the usual prerequisite to attaining sex, it is not the goal it is the prerequisite to achieving the goal, and only a foolish egoist chases after validation, as black pillers were supposed to be introspective, the "deep thinkers", to cling and chase after female validation is illogical, especially for an incel, you already know what it is you really want, sex, so chase after that, and when you simply see things in such a manner a whole slew of options open up to you, things you did not even consider because your ego was blinding you from it.


What is this ailment might you ask, look here:

A lot of these guys here haven't truly accepted they are incel, they are still very blue pilled, they are playing around with the black pill in their mouth, tasting it but never willing to swallow, how the hell can you be black pilled and still expect to be "desired" as if you are chad. They still seek out validation as though it means more to them than the sex itself.

I'd like to coin this Vestigial Bluepill Syndrome, just like how a "vestigial tail" is said to be a "left over" from our evolutionary process, some black pillers find themselves still retaining the vestigial remnants of their blue pilled mindset. Think I'll make a thread about this.

The best example I've seen of this are the copers that don't want to escortcel, BECAUSE IT DENIES THEM FEMALE VALIDATION and the escort only wants them FOR THEIR MONEY. A true black piller would think - "good, this is logical, its a simple trade off, both parties benefit, no strings attached". But a black piller suffering with the dreaded VBS will complain about not feeling desired or validated or loved, ironically like a blue pilled normie.

Your thoughts
 
Typical sex-haver boomers who don't truly understand inceldom. Most of us can go to prostitutes or escorts but we want validation and a gf who truly loves us
Hookers wont fix shit
 
Nah just egotistical idiots want validation, guys like you are InLon (Involuntarily Lonely), an InCel is Involuntarily Celibate, idiots need to stop making addendum to the definition to expand the degree of criteria so that they can latch onto the label

Sex for the sake of sex can be gotten. There's crusty-ass 90 year olds in Florida who fuck for sport and will take anybody who won't literally kill them. It's definitely gotta be more than sex.

But this from Joe Rogan is actually kinda surprising. I don't support prostitution, but to hear anything aside from "Incels are just faking it" from him is good to hear.
 
joe had a good face when he was younger but he's a manlet, like 5'5 at this point i think after decades of BJJ have fucked his neck/back up, he should be thankful he's a gen x'er otherwise he'd have an account on this website most likely
 
Sex for the sake of sex can be gotten. There's crusty-ass 90 year olds in Florida who fuck for sport and will take anybody who won't literally kill them. It's definitely gotta be more than sex.

Atheistcel: "Starvation is suffering and/or death caused by lack of food that isn't cooked for you by a personal chef"

BlkPillPres: "No starvation is suffering and/or death caused by lack of food period, stop adding shit to the definition so that you can include your egotistical normie desires into it"

FrothySolutions: "Nutrition for the sake of nutrition can be gotten, there are large dumpsters all over filled with rancid and partially edible food and nobody is stopping you from getting it, starvation has definitely more to it than just sustenance"

Nice try, your statement has literally nothing to do with the arguments made, and is nothing but a ridiculous DISINGENUOUS pile of nonsense. You are basically asserting - "well you can get sex if you aim really really low, so you aren't really sexually starved"

That's not how that works, why stop the buck there, why not assert - "there are gay men willing to fuck you SO WHY NOT JUST TRY AND BE GAY, YOU'D GET SEX THEN. Its definitely gotta be more than sex"

Please stop with the disingenuous BS

The first step to lowering female SMV, is making prostitution legal, that should be priority #1 on the incel collective goals list, the more sex becomes available, and the more culturally normalized it becomes for men to purchase it, the less of a monopoly women as a collective have over sex, so the less leverage women have in society and the less localized leverage they have over the men around them

This is common sense, no incel should be against legalized prostitution, even if you don't want to pay for sex, the effect that it will have on the sexual market will be a strike against the power women hold today, every incel should be in favor of that

An incel being against legalized prostitution, is like an incel being against a male contraceptive pill because it will help other men get laid - "I don't want men to regain power over when births take place duuuuh, I'd prefer women retain that power"

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Atheistcel: "Starvation is suffering and/or death caused by lack of food that isn't cooked for you by a personal chef"

BlkPillPres: "No starvation is suffering and/or death caused by lack of food period, stop adding shit to the definition so that you can include your egotistical normie desires into it"

FrothySolutions: "Nutrition for the sake of nutrition can be gotten, there are large dumpsters all over filled with rancid and partially edible food and nobody is stopping you from getting it, starvation has definitely more to it than just sustenance"

Freeganing is a thing, yes. But it's not a reliable thing, not like crusty-ass 90 year old women. And it's not the same as having sex with a man either. Being heterosexual but having sex with a man is like being hungry but eating clay food. I think you're being disingenuous.
 
Freeganing is a thing, yes.

So is "gay for pay", so is "sexual experimentation", you have no point here

But it's not a reliable thing, not like crusty-ass 90 year old women.

1. Those women still are not reliable, you can still be rejected

2. Reliability has nothing to do with the issue, sexual satisfaction does, men crave sex because they want to be sexually satisfied, you aren't going to be sexually satisfied having sex with someone you consider disgusting, you are going ot be forcing yourself to reach orgasm (and that's if you even can make it there), thus defeating the purpose of having sex

What you are attempting to do, is to disingenuously stretch the criteria for "volceldom" to "if you won't fuck extremely old chicks, THEN YOU ARE VOLCEL"

All I did was stretch it further to show you how disingenuous and ridiculous your line of argumentation is

I think you're being disingenuous.

That that was the very point of the comparison JFL, that's why I said you might as well make the same argument for gay sex, you took a concept to a disingenuous extreme, I just pushed it a bit further, and we could keep going further and further down (why don't you just FUCK YOUR DOG MAAAAAN)

By your logic, if a man could get a hot GF, but he had to be a literal cuck to keep her, watch her fuck other men everyday and maybe he gets some star fish sex every now and then, if he refused that deal, he's volcel

How far are you willing to take your disingenuous arguments, that's my point, because there's no reason to just stop at the line you arbitrarily drew at old women, we can keep going further and further, if you won't be a cuck you are volcel, if you won't let a 10/10 woman fuck you with a strapon to be her boyfriend you are volcel, etc, etc
 
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I agree 100%, his view isn't perfect but it's leagues above Joe "incels should just become MEN, bro" Rogan from a few months ago. It definitely seems like he's swallowed some parts of the blackpill.
I thought the same, Joe prob knows because he's a manlet.
 
So is "gay for pay", so is "sexual experimentation", you have no point here



1. Those women still are not reliable, you can still be rejected

2. Reliability has nothing to do with the issue, sexual satisfaction does, men crave sex because they want to be sexually satisfied, you aren't going to be sexually satisfied having sex with someone you consider disgusting, you are going ot be forcing yourself to reach orgasm (and that's if you even can make it there), thus defeating the purpose of having sex

What you are attempting to do, is to disingenuously stretch the criteria for "volceldom" to "if you won't fuck extremely old chicks, THEN YOU ARE VOLCEL"

All I did was stretch it further to show you how disingenuous and ridiculous your line of argumentation is



That that was the very point of the comparison JFL, that's why I said you might as well make the same argument for gay sex, you took a concept to a disingenuous extreme, I just pushed it a bit further, and we could keep going further and further down (why don't you just FUCK YOUR DOG MAAAAAN)

By your logic, if a man could get a hot GF, but he had to be a literal cuck to keep her, watch her fuck other men everyday and maybe he gets some star fish sex every now and then, if he refused that deal, he's volcel

How far are you willing to take your disingenuous arguments, that's my point, because there's no reason to just stop at the line you arbitrarily drew at old women, we can keep going further and further, if you won't be a cuck you are volcel, if you won't let a 10/10 woman fuck you with a strapon to be her boyfriend you are volcel, etc, etc

I'm saying you're being disingenuous by calling sex with an old woman a "comparable extreme" to gay sex. They're not the same. I'm not saying you have to like sex with an old woman, or like being literally cucked. In fact, that's why I'm saying it has to be more than sex for the sake of sex. Because sex for the sake of sex doesn't allow for things like "Well do you wanna not be cucked?" If all she has to be is female and willing to have sex with you, inceldom is incredibly rare. That's why there must be more we're seeking than sex with a willing woman.
 
I'll be honest I hate prostitutes. Women shouldn't be allowed to make money just for being women, all it does it inflates womens worth even further by setting the standard that men should have to pay money for the "privilege" of having sex with them, while the reverse will never happen.

Women's worth pertaining to sex, doesn't need to be inflated, its a biological fact of reality due to the differences in the male and female libido, so prostitution does the opposite of what you are saying, it doesn't inflate women's worth, it establishes and normalizes their worth, with any business comes competative pricing, with every cultural change comes the normalization of certain concepts, once prostitution becomes something that is normalized within a culture it lowers the SMV of women collectively and destroys the monopoly that a common woman has over sexual resources

You guys are looking at this all wrong, prostitution doesn't create privilege for women, women already have privilege by virtue of existing, males have always traded resources with females for access to their sexual resources, this is nothing new




The worth of sex is not artificial or propped up by society, IT IS INHERENT TO A BIOLOGICAL EXISTENCE.

The argument that prostitution inflates the value of sex is a false one, it actually normalizes the value of sex by make it an everyday commodity rather than this rare thing we all have to play mind games for and compete and struggle to get, prostitution turns sex into like buying food, I wish I could live in a world where sex is like food at a grocery.



I'm saying you're being disingenuous by calling sex with an old woman a "comparable extreme" to gay sex.

Can you not read?

What you are attempting to do, is to disingenuously stretch the criteria for "volceldom" to "if you won't fuck extremely old chicks, THEN YOU ARE VOLCEL"

All I did was stretch it further to show you how disingenuous and ridiculous your line of argumentation is

That that was the very point of the comparison JFL, that's why I said you might as well make the same argument for gay sex, you took a concept to a disingenuous extreme, I just pushed it a bit further

I literally said it isn't a comparable extreme, its MORE EXTREME, and that was my point, why stop at your level of "disingenuousity", why not push it further, who decided that your level is "just right" and going any further is now "too disingenuous", I say don't be disingenuous at all, you can't just arbitrarily decide that where you draw the line is "within reason"

In fact, that's why I'm saying it has to be more than sex for the sake of sex. Because sex for the sake of sex doesn't allow for things like "Well do you wanna not be cucked?"

She isn't your woman if its a prostituted, she has sex with you and other men for a living, being cucked bares no relevance here. Inceldom is just about sex, anything else is cake, but to act as if sex isn't the primary goal is ridiculous, and a perversion of what the definition of inceldom is, we literally have guys here saying they'd refuse to pay for sex UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, that's not inceldom, that's clearly being a volcel, because IRONICALLY THEY WOULD DATE A WOMAN, WHICH IS GAMBLING FOR SEX, BUT PAYING DIRECTLY FOR SEX IS A NO NO :feelskek: (they are still spending money for sex, the fucking idiots don't think)
 
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Normies will just shame us for escortceling
Like they do with us getting facial surgery.
Hookers wont fix shit
The reason they use Hookers as an argument is because it is a female dominated field. It's a toilet "expressing herself" and so she deserves to be validated every second of everyday.. sorry but Men deserve the exact same or Life is an uneven playing field supporting one gender and not the other which is obviously unsustainable. It's fucking garbage because the mardy faced whores only want your money and constantly complain and whine about their clients not being Chad, which they never say when there is a potential to make money to their clients face.
 
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Escorts are perfect for satisfying our perverted fetishes
 
I'm skeptical that having legal access to whores will fix inceldom.
It's not legal where I am, but there's the escort option --- expensive af. And that's part of the reason.

Any foid with halfway decent looks can become a whore for a short time and earn good money as an escort, where men are slaving away at bullshit jobs that will lay them off on a whim (I'm talking from a US perspective here). Men don't have the option of easy money by selling their ass (unless he's a fag).

I pay a whore. I get to know what sex feels like. It won't change shit. I still had to pay for sex.
 
Escorting won’t fix my problems
 
Escorts are legal here in australia, we have lots of korean and japanese escorts here that look like your favorite anime characters, and theres still incels here, im one of them

Even still, my clinical psychologist advises against using them for some reason.
Your psychologist is a feminist for sure.
Thanks for the info if I can have some money I know that I can go there :feelsokman:
 
No prostitution for your face
 
Fucking retard.

I don't want hookers. This isn't even about sex lol. Incels suffer in all spheres of life.
 

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