Blackpill JFL if you think 13 year old foids are innocent

[Meus]

Yes I even said 13 and not 17.

I fucking remember 13 year old foids from school, they actually had far dirtier minds than me. For once they bullied me and called me nasty shit, but also they were perverted as fuck and allowed Chad to grab their ass and tits (yes they had tits) and they talked about sex related shit constantly and were obsessed with adult shows like 'Sex and the City'. They couldn't fucking wait to get plowed by Chads. They were interested in anything dark and evil: Drugs, sex, bullying, satanism... JFL at the cucks who say these things are children.

These are just my 2 cents to the great debate from the last few days. That neko guy and these guys who were banned represent 2 opposite ends of a spectrum: For once the retarded cuck who thinks 17 years is a fucking child and also the edgy dudes who think 8 year old foids are sexy. (For me they aren't). 13 is when they start puberty and start having tits and ass (and some can even give birth) so....

 

[PPEcel]

As I've said with regards to their bans, it doesn't matter where one stands on paedophilia, fabricating evidence in order to censor another user is absolutely unacceptable.

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[Negroid Berber]

I remember one, she was 12/13 too.
That whore masturbated while recording it on camera and sent the video to some fat bully that showed the video to everyone

These are just my 2 cents to the great debate from the last few days. That neko guy and these guys who were banned represent 2 opposite ends of a spectrum: For once the retarded cuck who thinks 17 years is a fucking child and also the edgy dudes who think 8 year old foids are sexy. (For me they aren't). 13 is when they start puberty so....

based, 12+ is not wrong in my book

 

[calimero]

Maybe not innocent but not fully matured. If a child wants unlimited amounts of candy that means we should protect them from their impulses. The same goes for thirsty teen girls wanting chad cock at the cost of getting gang raped in all holes by chads and losing their ability to pairbond.

 

[Meus]

that means we should protect them from their impulses

Did society ever protect ME? Yeah I tought so.

I don't give a damn who protects whom, I'm just saying when girls are starting to have objectively attractive features.

Also if hardly matters when they will get gang raped, with 14, 16, 18 or 20. The end result is the same. Maybe we should teach these girls that casual sex is bad, instead of trying to stall the inevitable?

 

[calimero]

Did society ever protect ME? Yeah I tought so.

I don't give a damn who protects whom, I'm just saying when girls are starting to have objectively attractive features.

Also if hardly matters when they will get gang raped, with 14, 16, 18 or 20. The end result is the same. Maybe we should teach these girls that casual sex is bad, instead of trying to stall the inevitable?

Well at that age they probably don't take advice from anyone, but when they are in their twenties it's already too late because they will either be schizophrenic, bpd, hysteric, dissociative or narcissistic and have lost the ability to process shame and guilt

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

As I've said with regards to their bans, it doesn't matter where one stands on paedophilia, fabricating evidence in order to censor another user is absolutely unacceptable.

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But your thoughts on this topic?

 

[PPEcel]

But your thoughts on this topic?

Of course, 13-year-olds aren't innocent. That doesn't necessarily mean the age of consent should be lowered to 13.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Of course, 13-year-olds aren't innocent. That doesn't necessarily mean the age of consent should be lowered to 13.

How about 16 and 17 yo foids?

 

[PPEcel]

How about 16 and 17 yo foids?

What about them?

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

What about them?

Do you think foids that are almost 18 should be able to consent?

 

[BrazilianLiveMatter]

I remember one, she was 12/13 too.
That whore masturbated while recording it on camera and sent the video to some fat bully that showed the video to everyone

I've seen something similar at my school, she was about 12 and she recorded her pussy

 

[PPEcel]

Do you think foids that are almost 18 should be able to consent?

Yes.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Yes.

Do you think guys 15-18 should be able to escortcel at those ages?

 

[PPEcel]

Do you think guys 15-18 should be able to escortcel at those ages?

18 and up

 

[BrazilianLiveMatter]

this shit doesn't matter, foids always get older guys, there's a difference in some foids, at 13 they can already have big breasts but some don't, there was a girl in my classroom who had giant breasts and I didn't even have hair on my balls yet , I wouldn't blame a 17-18 year old guy who wants to fuck her and she wouldn't care either, if her body is already mature she already feels sexual desire

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

18 and up

Why? If they are old enough to work and escortcel with their own money?

 

[PPEcel]

Why? If they are old enough to work and escortcel with their own money?

I'm tired of these autistic questions, there's no reason why commercial sex needs to be available for minors. It's not a decision anyone should take lightly.

I highly doubt anyone 15-17 can "work and escortcel with their own money", in any case.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

I'm tired of these autistic questions, there's no reason why commercial sex needs to be available for minors. It's not a decision anyone should take lightly.

But then it's okay for 16 and 17 year old foids to sleep with much older men.

I highly doubt anyone 15-17 can "work and escortcel with their own money", in any case.

15-17 are old enough to legally work and make their own money. Should they be considered adults once they have their own income?

 

[PPEcel]

But then it's okay for 16 and 17 year old foids to sleep with much older men.

15-17 are old enough to legally work and make their own money. Should they be considered adults once they have their own income?

There's a heightened level of risk and danger (robbery, scams, STDs) applicable to commercial sex that isn't applicable to normalfag relationships. It is reasonable to deter minors from seeking out commercial sex.

Where did I specifically mention 16- and 17-year-old foids with older men? The law should be applied gender-neutrally.

If an 8-year-old gets paid $15 for mowing his neighbor's lawn, is he an adult? Stupid fucking question.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

There's a heightened level of risk and danger (robbery, scams, STDs) applicable to commercial sex that isn't applicable to normalfag relationships. It is reasonable to deter minors from seeking out commercial sex.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean that a 18 year old isn't vulnerable or that a 16-17 year old can't handle those issues.

Where did I specifically mention 16- and 17-year-old foids with older men? The law should be applied gender-neutrally.

So if it's just free sex. Okay.

If an 8-year-old gets paid $15 for mowing his neighbor's lawn, is he an adult? Stupid fucking question.

No, but I mean if you are old enough to legally make money on your own, take care of your own finances independently, and thus able to buy and own your own property from your own labor, then if you are financially independent that should be enough to be considered an adult.

 

[Paranoidcel]

I see girls those ages dressing like sluts all the time, they aren't innocent at all and most of them start doing blowjobs or even sex at that age.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

That is the minimum age in which I would accept to fuck a foid .

 

[PPEcel]

Yeah, but it doesn't mean that a 18 year old isn't vulnerable or that a 16-17 year old can't handle those issues.

Holy shit how many times do I have to point this out, it is infinitely more practical and reasonable to implement a rigid age cutoff than to...actually, you don't even have anything valuable to contribute to this discussion, what exactly are you even arguing?

Just because a rigid age cutoff is imperfect and imprecise doesn't mean it is unreasonable, and vice versa.

No, but I mean if you are old enough to legally make money on your own, take care of your own finances independently, and thus able to buy and own your own property from your own labor, then if you are financially independent that should be enough to be considered an adult.

So if someone who's 23 isn't legally making money on their own, isn't taking care of their own finances independently, can't afford any property from their labor, does that mean they should be denied adulthood?

I want to see a 15-year-old who fits that description JFL. Hint: there is none.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Holy shit how many times do I have to point this out, it is infinitely more practical and reasonable to implement a rigid age cutoff than to...actually, you don't even have anything valuable to contribute to this discussion, what exactly are you even arguing?

Just because a rigid age cutoff is imperfect and imprecise doesn't mean it is unreasonable, and vice versa.

There should be if they're really young and don't know what they're getting themselves into. But IMO, if a 16-17 year old guy wants to have sex and he has money, I don't see why he can't see a brothel. Even at that age, I wish I could escortcel before I turned 18.

So if someone who's 23 isn't legally making money on their own, isn't taking care of their own finances independently, can't afford any property from their labor, does that mean they should be denied adulthood?

Technically they're manchildren, but they can still get a job on their own. Children under a certain age legally can't.

I want to see a 15-year-old who fits that description JFL. Hint: there is none.

I know not all teens work and still live with parents. But by 16-17 you can work adult jobs.

 

[PPEcel]

There should be if they're really young and don't know what they're getting themselves into. But IMO, if a 16-17 year old guy wants to have sex and he has money, I don't see why he can't see a brothel. Even at that age, I wish I could escortcel before I turned 18.

Technically they're manchildren, but they can still get a job on their own. Children under a certain age legally can't.

I know not all teens work and still live with parents. But by 16-17 you can work adult jobs.

1) What makes you think most 17-year-olds "know what they're getting themselves into" when it comes to commercial sex? No one that young should have fully and entirely given up anyway.

2) What if they are disabled and struggle to find employment? Do they also lose adult privileges such as voting or serving on juries?

3) In your previous comments you suggested that they should be considered adults should they "take care of their finances independently" and "buy and own their own property from their own labor", which just isn't happening, JFL.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

1) What makes you think most 17-year-olds "know what they're getting themselves into" when it comes to commercial sex? No one that young should have fully and entirely given up anyway.

What about those 18-21? Should the cuttoff for buying sex be raised to 21?

2) What if they are disabled and struggle to find employment? Do they also lose adult privileges such as voting or serving on juries?

Technically they might still be dependent on someone to make decisions for them.

3) In your previous comments you suggested that they should be considered adults should they "take care of their finances independently" and "buy and own their own property from their own labor", which just isn't happening, JFL.

I guess, but you can still work when you're under 18.

 

[PPEcel]

What about those 18-21? Should the cuttoff for buying sex be raised to 21?

Technically they might still be dependent on someone to make decisions for them.

I guess, but you can still work when you're under 18.

no

the hypotheticals aren't necessary

moot

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

no

Why do you think 18-21 are mature enough instead of leaving it at over 21?

 

[PPEcel]

Why do you think 18-21 are mature enough instead of leaving it at over 21?

It's reasonable to have one straightforward cutoff in line with other restrictions -- being allowed to operate heavy machinery, launch a civil proceeding, join the military, vote, perform jury service, et cetera.

It's also because growth plates should already be closed in most individuals when someone is 18. 18 is just the right age for someone to tell with a very high degree of certainty where they are, SMV wise, so there is no reason why they should be forced to prolong their virginity for 3 additional years

 

[Fat Link]

When my Chad childhood friend turned 13 he was basically fucking legions of 13 year old girls along with probably some 14 and 15 year olds thrown into the mix.

Virtue signallers, ninnies, concern trolls, soy boys, pedo hunter types and white knights, cucks and simps can spout all the bullshit they want about supposed female purity, innocence, rape and consent but at the end of the day the 13 year old girl knows exactly what she’s doing when she spreads her legs for Chad.

 

[Meus]

When my Chad childhood friend turned 13 he was basically fucking legions of 13 year old girls along with probably some 14 and 15 year olds thrown into the mix.

Virtue signallers, ninnies, concern trolls, soy boys, pedo hunter types and white knights, cucks and simps can spout all the bullshit they want about supposed female purity, innocence, rape and consent but at the end of the day the 13 year old girl knows exactly what she’s doing when she spreads her legs for Chad.

Yeah the argument they aren't mentally developed is fucking bullshit. Girls mature MENTALLY a lot faster than boys, at least 3 years.

So a 10 year old foid is as mature as a 13 year old boy. A 13 year old foid is as mature as a 16 year old boy etc... with 16 they stop tough and stay that age forever while men continue maturing until like 25 or 30. I played fucking Pokemon when I was 12 and foids already were interested in adult shit and wore make-up and talked about Sex and the City jfl.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

It's reasonable to have one straightforward cutoff in line with other restrictions -- being allowed to operate heavy machinery, launch a civil proceeding, join the military, vote, perform jury service, et cetera.

It's also because growth plates should already be closed in most individuals when someone is 18. 18 is just the right age for someone to tell with a very high degree of certainty where they are, SMV wise, so there is no reason why they should be forced to prolong their virginity for 3 additional years

So you're still saying that someone under 18 still has a chance of slaying. You can still work and join the military when you're under 18.

So, a 21 year old is going to be more mature than 18. 18-19 are still considered teenagers. They say that your mind finishes development at 27 and you can't drink or smoke until you're 21. So why not restrict sex until your 21?

 

[PPEcel]

So you're still saying that someone under 18 still has a chance of slaying. You can still work and join the military when you're under 18.

So, a 21 year old is going to be more mature than 18. 18-19 are still considered teenagers. They say that your mind finishes development at 27 and you can't drink or smoke until you're 21. So why not restrict sex until your 21?

Yes someone under 18 still has a chance of slaying.

I know you're from the U.S. -- in any case, yes 17-year-olds can join the U.S. military with parental consent, but it is rare because of the extra paperwork involved and because 17-year-olds aren't allowed in combat positions and because enlistment requires a high school diploma. In practice you have to be 18 to join the military, which it should be.

It doesn't matter when the mind finishes development, it only matters the extent to which the mind has developed.

There's also no reason to place the drinking or smoking age at 21, it's stupid and it's not as if it's been effective at deterring under-21s from drinking or smoking.

Elaborate on "So why not restrict sex until your 21?"

You really need to get into a habit of speaking clearly and delineating your position as opposed to asking ping-pong questions with no clear objective in mind.

 

[remincel]

There are no innocent foids.

These creatures are born degenerate and should be treated as such. If you look at any country where equal rights exist, you will notice that all foids do is dress like absolute whores and post their nudes all over social media. I've seen girls as young as 12 do provocative dances on TikTok and other video-sharing apps, talking about their fetishes and favorite sex positions. They later act like they were forced into it, when being a chad-chasing whore is literally ingrained into their biology.

They don't deserve equal rights, none of them do. They should be stripped of all of their rights and kept under lock and key until they reach an age when they're eligible to be married off. They've proven time and time again that they can't handle being given equal rights.

 

[Meus]

There are no innocent foids.

These creatures are born degenerate and should be treated as such. If you look at any country where equal rights exist, you will notice that all foids do is dress like absolute whores and post their nudes all over social media. I've seen girls as young as 12 do provocative dances on TikTok and other video-sharing apps, talking about their fetishes and favorite sex positions. They later act like they were forced into it, when being a chad-chasing whore is literally ingrained into their biology.

They don't deserve equal rights, none of them do. They should be stripped of all of their rights and kept under lock and key until they reach an age when they're eligible to be married off. They've proven time and time again that they can't handle being given equal rights.

Based and black pilled.

 

[TheIncredibleIncel]

Yes I even said 13 and not 17.

I fucking remember 13 year old foids from school, they actually had far dirtier minds than me. For once they bullied me and called me nasty shit, but also they were perverted as fuck and allowed Chad to grab their ass and tits (yes they had tits) and they talked about sex related shit constantly and were obsessed with adult shows like 'Sex and the City'. They couldn't fucking wait to get plowed by Chads. They were interested in anything dark and evil: Drugs, sex, bullying, satanism... JFL at the cucks who say these things are children.

These are just my 2 cents to the great debate from the last few days. That neko guy and these guys who were banned represent 2 opposite ends of a spectrum: For once the retarded cuck who thinks 17 years is a fucking child and also the edgy dudes who think 8 year old foids are sexy. (For me they aren't). 13 is when they start puberty and start having tits and ass (and some can even give birth) so....

How long ago was this? What year are we talking?