News Jeremy Vine sparks outrage as guest sensationally claims 'incels aren't the problem, women are' - and insists female behaviour 'gets worse and worse'

[Oneitiscel]

Jeremy Vine row as guest claims 'incels aren't the problem, women are'

During the recent instalment of the daily Channel 5 programme, Jeremy, Reem Ibrahim and Matthew Torbitt had a conversation with Adam, from Devon, who phoned in.

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Jeremy Vine's show sparked outrage after a guest claimed 'incels aren't the problem, women are' and insisted female behaviour 'gets worse and worse as time goes on'.

'What do you know of incels Adam?' Jeremy asked.

The guest replied: 'Most of the time I think it's just men trying to express themselves and being labelled misogynist because of programmes such as the one now.'

He went on to add that he believes 'if you want to address the issue of incels, if there is such an issue of incels and it's not just a label which has been given to a certain group of men, then you need to look at the larger social structures that are causing it'.

Jeremy asked: 'Would you describe yourself as an incel?'

Adam clarified that he 'wouldn't describe' himself as an incel 'because in the past I've not been celibate and I'm bisexual. So no, I wouldn't'.

When Matthew asked what he feels people are trying to stop him from expressing, Adam shared his thoughts.

'Expressing their feelings, expressing how they feel about women and expressing their experiences and why their experiences have turned them off women,' Adam explained.

But when Matthew challenged if he felt that type of thinking 'leans into misogyny' the guest responded: 'I think you need to look at misandry instead and the fact that women constantly want bad boys and it becomes like a competition as to who can behave the baddest...'

While Andrew Thomas, author of an 'incel study', shared his view and argued, 'The one thing I would say in Adam's favour is that a lot of men feel like when they have frustrations around women that they're not allowed to talk about it and that's why they retreat to some of these online spaces and that's really where the misogynistic views fester.'

He went on to claim: 'We live in a certain society that requires men to behave in a certain way in love, via the behaviour of women and the behaviour of women gets worse and worse as time goes on quite frankly and in the home, they're expected to be very masculine.'

When Reem asked who requires him to act in that way, he responded: 'Women require me to act in that way, women require men to be extremely bloke-y, the more bad boy the more attractive.'

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5ZZaR2FNk

 

[PersonalityChad]

 

[Grodd]

Based as fuck the more people that call normies out on their shit the better.

 

[Grodd]

Just watching the video now, the foid and all the cucks are insufferable cunts who lacks basic intellect.

 

[BricABrac]

What's most amazing to me is just how reasonable and measured this take is.

It's reasonable, and it's expressed in a clear and unharmful way. But he will still be hated for it.

Women are sacred! To say anything bad about them or their behavior is BLASPHEMY.

 

[reveries]

Nooo! There's no deeper reason for incel problems, they just hate, and they do it because they are bad, no reason to look deeper! Also misandry doesn't exist! They should fit women's expectations better if they want a chance, while women are already fine as they are! Also there's no such thing as gynocracy!

 

[reveries]

What's most amazing to me is just how reasonable and measured this take is.

It's reasonable, and it's expressed in a clear and unharmful way. But he will still be hated for it.

Women are sacred! To say anything bad about them or their behavior is BLASPHEMY.

They have these sacred cows that can NEVER be questioned. If something is "misogyny" (meaning, criticizing foids in any way), it's badbadbadbad and all the other information you have gets blocked out and they chimp out at you and treat you like a serial killer. It's like religious fanatics or cult members, if you attack their god/idol.

Ironically, normies are cult members (a cult of worshipping and pleasing vagina, even if it means losing civilization because of it), not us. They are just blind followers lead by their shallow emotions, they're not capable of rationality and they don't care about justice or truth.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I only disagree about women wanting bad boys, especially because that feeds into their "nice guy" bullshit. Women want physically attractive men, good or bad. Often no matter how bad, they will stay with the attractive man, and I understand it's easy to feel frustrated because of this, but it's giving women too much credit. Pussy tingles, simple as.

But, yes, women are not allowed to be questioned on anything today.

 

[fightercel]

In the end the woman guest and the host said that they couldn't even understand what Adam's point was. I mean, you shouldn't expect a lot from 'TV experts' but his point was clear enough. The online professor, however, seems decently reasonable.

I've checked his studies and although his is undoubtedly anti-incel, his studies seem to have a lot of interesting insights, for instance, in a preprint named 'Seeing Through the Black-Pill: Incels Are Wrong About What People Think of Them' he finds out that being a feminist is a huge factor in hate against incels. While people overall at least say that they want us to succeed and be happy, feminists tend to say the opposite with a straight face. The other finding from that paper is that, unexpectedly, non-incels see us as a threat to society and don't see structural problems in our society regarding incels.

 

[Nakolas]

Let the dumb normies seethe like babies

 

[Antorian]

He went against the ovarian cult, of course he will be hated for it

 

[T1Dcel]

100% based. He has escaped the blue/redpill cucks.

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

they hated him because he told the truth

 

[Sonicfancel]

He went against the ovarian cult, of course he will be hated for it

 

[Manlet_cel]

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[Manlet_cel]

Based as fuck the more people that call normies out on their shit the better.

 

[Megatronsquared]

Of course it’s this cunt and it’s coming from the daily mail, the UK is incel hell

 

[AdExpress]

crazy how even nazism and antisemitism got normalised in spaces before being able to suggest a woman might do anything bad. Right wing left wing liberals conversatives boomers gen z the religious and atheist all hate u for it it's insane

 

[TooSomething]

Based as fuck the more people that call normies out on their shit the better.

And don't forget that this was a bisexual who spoke these "based" words.

 

[fukurou]

it's a fake guest, aimed to label incels as closet homos.
classic feminist media tactics.