"It's my fault. I need to go out more to meet women, but I'm too afraid."

[Fontaine]

You wouldn't be afraid if you didn't fear rejection, and if you fear rejection that means you know that you aren't attractive to most women. So there's a problem here to begin with.

If you aren't attractive to most women, you probably aren't attractive to women at all.

"B-b-but my therapist says this is black and white thinking!"

Okay then. If you're simply too afraid to cold approach women IRL, why don't you try internet dating and Tinder like every shy male? Surely you will find your "special someone" that way, over millions of potential mates!

"B-b-but..."

Yeah, you obviously never tried internet dating or Tinder because deep inside, you know your looks are the problem

 

[Curious0]

 

[AfrikanCel]

You wouldn't be afraid if you didn't fear rejection, and if you fear rejection that means you know that you aren't attractive to most women. So there's a problem here to begin with.

If you aren't attractive to most women, you probably aren't attractive to women at all.

"B-b-but my therapist says this is black and white thinking!"

Okay then. If you're simply too afraid to cold approach women IRL, why don't you try internet dating and Tinder like every shy male? Surely you will find your "special someone" that way, over millions of potential mates!

"B-b-but..."

Yeah, you obviously never tried internet dating or Tinder because deep inside, you know your looks are the problem

Therapy is for whitecels. It is over for ethnicels

 

[Fontaine]

The suicide fuel is more the victim-blaming of incels as cowards or irrational idiots, when they rightly fear a string of traumatizing rejections that may lead to clinical depression.

 

[WarriorSkull]

The suicide fuel is more the victim-blaming of incels as cowards or irrational idiots, when they rightly fear a string of traumatizing rejections that may lead to clinical depression.

That was one positive of the blackpill. Realizing I'm not "depressed", but demoralized and there is no pill for demoralization.

Edit: And if I hadn't made it clear how that is relevant to your thread, it is that "depression" is treated as this irrational condition where you simply cannot think the happy thoughts you should be thinking, whereas demoralization is perfectly rational when you acknowledge the reality of your situation.

 

[Robtical]

But in the west femoids have terrible attitudes and their standards are too high.

 

[Evildoer]

Logical and reasonable.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

You're right. "Approach anxiety" is your instincts warning you of danger

 

[mylifeistrash]

You wouldn't be afraid if you didn't fear rejection, and if you fear rejection that means you know that you aren't attractive to most women. So there's a problem here to begin with.

If you aren't attractive to most women, you probably aren't attractive to women at all.

"B-b-but my therapist says this is black and white thinking!"

Okay then. If you're simply too afraid to cold approach women IRL, why don't you try internet dating and Tinder like every shy male? Surely you will find your "special someone" that way, over millions of potential mates!

"B-b-but..."

Yeah, you obviously never tried internet dating or Tinder because deep inside, you know your looks are the problem

An 8/10 guy would never be afraid, lmao. He knows how it would go down.

 

[Weirdcel]

The thing is, women themselves engage in black and white thinking when it comes to male attractiveness. There are no shades of grey so to speak. They either see you as hot or ugly. Therapists never adress that.

 

[big nose bug eyes]

This isn't exactly true, most men aren't attractive to most women no matter their looks unless they're like Brad Pitt or some shit.

I'm afraid of rejection not because of my looks but because I'm a friendless unemployed loser. Although I'm not good looking either.

 

[TheCrusader0201]

Logical and reasonable.

Thats happens to me, the same thing

 

[TheRealChincel]

Being afraid of women is real but not of being rejected by one, it’s that they’ll ruin your life. (Pose as you and reject scholarship offers, get you involved in fights, etc.)

 

[Evildoer]

An 8/10 guy would never be afraid, lmao. He knows how it would go down.

He knows he can come up to her, say something with high nassal voice looking down and avoiding barely looking at her, yet her pussy will be wet anyway.

 

[caffeine455]

well put. I don't understand how people can delude themselves still, if you're not getting looks from femoids, approached by them then it's over. your options are LDAR or betabuxx. it's that simple but people don't want to admit it, they're too scared.

 

[TheRealChincel]

Another volcel meme aka sub8 / all or nothing garbage

>If you aren't attractive to most women, you probably aren't attractive to women at all.

VAST majority of men aren't attractive to most women. And yet they are not incels. They get gfs and occasional ONS.
when they break up with gf, they move on to the next chick.

By your logic, everybody shouldve been an incel, and yet they aren't.

Women will sometimes pick a cuck in between jaunts with Chad. (By cuck, I don’t necessarily mean she’ll cheat on him but that she will be the dom in the relationship) Where do you live or what platform do you see where regular guys are sometimes getting ONS with anything but chubsters? I only see that stuff in TV shows or movies.

 

[Evildoer]

I don't understand how people can delude themselves still, if you're not getting looks from femoids, approached by them then it's over.

They are obviously bluepilled, that's how.

 

[grayjedi90]

You wouldn't be afraid if you didn't fear rejection, and if you fear rejection that means you know that you aren't attractive to most women. So there's a problem here to begin with.

If you aren't attractive to most women, you probably aren't attractive to women at all.

"B-b-but my therapist says this is black and white thinking!"

Okay then. If you're simply too afraid to cold approach women IRL, why don't you try internet dating and Tinder like every shy male? Surely you will find your "special someone" that way, over millions of potential mates!

"B-b-but..."

Yeah, you obviously never tried internet dating or Tinder because deep inside, you know your looks are the problem

To be honest even when i go out i don't know how to “be social“. Im almost 28, never had friends or a girlfriend and in general can't connect or relate to other people.

I had a timeframe in the past where i tried being more outgoing and social. I went to disco, bars or clubs alone and everytime was a cringefest. I just don't know what to say or how to approach other people. Even when i get a conversation going it's short and ended fast by other people.

 

[mylifeistrash]

According to his autistic PSL rating scale, there are very few chads, MOST men are between 3-7 range right ?
You are reaching by ASSUMING every normie who is in a relationship is getting dom'd by the foid.

>Where do you live or what platform do you see where regular guys are sometimes getting ONS with anything but chubsters? I only see that stuff in TV shows or movies

In europe.

I've lived (6 months or more) in 3 different euro countries. Germany, France, Spain. Visited many others. There are very few european countries I'vent been to.

I've seen those normies get a normal looking girls off the clubs. Ive seen them in university, I've seen them at work.
Just yesterday I was in a coffeeshop and saw a fat and balding manlet with a completely fit, cute chick. I wanted to take a pic of em to show to the nolifers on this forum.

>I only see that stuff in TV shows or movies

that's the case with most incels. and thats cos they dont have a life. they dont have any other chance.
the life they see on internet is all they have.

Sub8 / all or nothing crowd.

It's funny cos OP is a neet too.

i did pua for 5+ years and went to endless retarded bars and rooftop parties. unless you count getting some shitty worthless number success, pulling a girl for a ONS takes godly looks.

tinder is massively easier and you don't have to waste your night, spend money, and feel exhausted

 

[TheRealChincel]

According to his autistic PSL rating scale, there are very few chads, MOST men are between 3-7 range right ?
You are reaching by ASSUMING every normie who is in a relationship is getting dom'd by the foid.

>Where do you live or what platform do you see where regular guys are sometimes getting ONS with anything but chubsters? I only see that stuff in TV shows or movies

In europe.

I've lived (6 months or more) in 3 different euro countries. Germany, France, Spain. Visited many others. There are very few european countries I'vent been to.

I've seen those normies get a normal looking girls off the clubs. Ive seen them in university, I've seen them at work.
Just yesterday I was in a coffeeshop and saw a fat and balding manlet with a completely fit, cute chick. I wanted to take a pic of em to show to the nolifers on this forum.

>I only see that stuff in TV shows or movies

that's the case with most incels. and thats cos they dont have a life. they dont have any other chance.
the life they see on internet is all they have.

Sub8 / all or nothing crowd.

It's funny cos OP is a neet too.

Alright, 90% of normie males are the fem in the relationship, I’ll concede. (I refer to the West ofc) Alright, that explains it, I live in America and have lived in either big cities or small towns. While I’ve never had a “life”, most incels are notably ugly so prospects are low, I have seen how normie guys fare at bars and clubs. Never seen one walk away with anything more than a 4 from approach and that’s quite uncommon.

 

[caffeine455]

Just yesterday I was in a coffeeshop and saw a fat and balding manlet with a completely fit, cute chick. I wanted to take a pic of em to show to the nolifers on this forum.

I bet she really loved his personality, probably not using him or anything. matter of fact I am sure she paid the tab.

do you seriously believe you can get anything better than your looksmatch without status and/or wealth? because that defies statistics, various social media experiments (tinder, pof etc.), overall how women behaves and common sense. hell, you can not even get your looksmatch nowadays.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

Cold approaching is a meme

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

The thing is, women themselves engage in black and white thinking when it comes to male attractiveness. There are no shades of grey so to speak. They either see you as hot or ugly. Therapists never adress that.

Because then your only options are to rope or cope