It's essentially impossible to "ascend" as how people describe it

[Below Human]

You can not go from someone who is ugly by genetics to someone who is able to attract women, it's not possible at all. This is why I always preach that if 10 average single women in your age range dont like you essentially 1 billion do not like you.

For example, you CAN make money if you play your cards right, this is in your control.

For example, you CAN become very fit, quite strong for your size, a skilled craftsman or sports player (relatively)

But with no amount of effort can you make the opposite sex like you, NONE. It is just something you are born with or not, does your genetics allow you?

All ascensions that have happened are intrinsically fakecels because real Incels can not ascend no matter what. Just because you are fat and lose weight does not mark it as an "ascension" being fat is not pure genetics. You just stopped fucking yourself over.

 

[Below Human]

Getting a girl to "like you" for some is unironically harder than becoming an Elite level athlete relatively or becoming a millionaire, even an Astronaut, seriously. These things are in your control and are possible with effort and dedication.

Making another human like you that has free will is not, lol. Just give up on that shit, can people not see the shit is impossible.

 

[PersonaPimp]

Getting a girl to "like you" for some is unironically harder than becoming an Elite level athlete relatively or becoming a millionaire, even an Astronaut, seriously. These things are in your control and are possible with effort and dedication.

That's right. Which is why we need AI girlfriends in the organically grown female bodies. They'll be loyal and never fuck us over.

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

Water

But surgery/roids can improve your quality of life even girls dont like you

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Water, but correct

 

[nice_try]

It's not rocket science. SMV has multiple factors that you can increase to a limited extent in the hopes that you will get over the magic threshold to attract a female.
If you're a 4 and you can increase your SMV to a 6, you might ascend.
If you start as a 2 (like me) you can increase your SMV to a 4 (like I did) and still stay a permavirgin.

 

[antisocialcel]

you CAN make money

Genetics. Rich people usually come from rich families which had the ability to make fortune due to their intelligence.

you CAN become very fit, quite strong for your size, a skilled craftsman or sports player

Genetics. Africans (color) i.e have little representation in areas like art, science, technology, etc., but have a high representation in sports even in non african countries.

 

[Ghostface]

Water, but correct

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

It's not rocket science. SMV has multiple factors that you can increase to a limited extent in the hopes that you will get over the magic threshold to attract a female.
If you're a 4 and you can increase your SMV to a 6, you might ascend.
If you start as a 2 (like me) you can increase your SMV to a 4 (like I did) and still stay a permavirgin.

Cope

Its impossible to get +2 with surgeries

Go back to .org

 

[Enigmaz]

Genetics fucked me. Now I'm below human.

 

[Below Human]

Genetics fucked me. Now I'm below human.

Yeah man.

 

[nice_try]

Cope

Its impossible to get +2 with surgeries

Go back to .org

Never was on .org
SMV consists of more than just looks, so +2 is very well possible.

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

Never was on .org
SMV consists of more than just looks, so +2 is very well possible.

Cope

SMV = looks/race

 

[Below Human]

Never was on .org
SMV consists of more than just looks, so +2 is very well possible.

Not based on genuine attraction, doesn't count. When the well runs dry you know the rest

 

[Corvus]

I was fat then got fit.

Only difference I noticed was that men bullied me more when I was fit.

 

[Progeny of Horus]

Are Italians white?