1. The main reason people on this forum seem to have a positive view of Islam is because it limits the rights of women. While this is true in the current state of things, this quality is not inherent to Islam and is simply a result of its surroundings.
Today, Christianity is certainly more "liberal" regarding women's rights, LGBT rights, etc. compared to Islam. There are also differences between sects, with Catholicism being one of the most liberal and Evangelicalism being one of the most conservative. But this is not due to characteristics of Christianity itself- think of Catholicism in the Middle Ages, which would be on par with if not stricter than even the most extremely conservative sects of Islam today. The degree to which women's rights are present in a particular religion depends not on thew religion itself, but on the social circumstances of the region and people who practice it. In the early Middle Ages, women in the Middle East had greater rights than women in Europe, even though the Middle East was still predominantly Muslim and Europe was still predominantly Christian. It was simply the case that regions like Arabia were more "cosmopolitan" and had a more delocalized lifestyle at the time.
Today, countries in which Christianity is most dominant(mostly in Europe, the Anglosphere, countries previously influenced by Europe such as Philippines and Korea) generally have the greatest amount of freedoms for women. But this is less so due to Christianity, and more so because those countries happen to be already wealthy and with a more "modern" life style. I'm sure African countries which practice Christianity are still similarly conservative compared to current Islamic countries. In the future, if countries with predominantly Muslim populations become wealthier, I'm sure their societies will become more sexually liberal whilst still being Muslim.
So no, Islam is not inherently more conservative compared to Christianity. Supporting Islam does not mean much, because the level of "conservatism" is determined by the society that practices Islam. Supporting certain restrictions on women's behaviors should therefore be done for its own sake, not due to a religion.
2. Islam as a religion does not contain wholly "good" guidelines for incels.
Other than suppressing women's rights, its core tenets do not benefit incels all that much. For instance, it allows polygamy- this creates an unequal environment. Also, as an organized, Abrahamic religion, it must in some way encourage followers to follow some sort of hierarchy- whether it be a local leader like a pastor, imam, or rabbi, or an extreme hierarchy with priests, cardinals, and the pope. Like most other religions, Islam mandates that one must follow religious law and act as part of a group. This is obviously bad for those who are persecuted under the status quo and seek to achieve some kind of change. It promotes following outdated rules such as not eating pork(important in a hot climate without refrigeration where pork spoils quickly, irrelevant today) or praying five times daily facing Mecca. As a primary reason for our issues is that society and women's preferences are rooted in obsolete factors, I believe that following a religion that puts a great deal of focus on adherence to tradition is bad.
So, the only positive aspect of Islam for incels is its repression of women's freedoms, but this is not a trait inherent to the religion.
And I don't think that atheism and sexual freedom must necessarily be correlated, either. I am an atheist but I have "conservative" social values- not because my religion tells me so, but due to their societal implications. Really, these old religious rules enforcing things like monogamy or celibacy are for the same purpose- getting a population to follow some guideline without having to explain to them why. Now, in the current time, with all our knowledge about sociology, we know why certain behaviors like hypergamy are bad- we have no need for religion to support this.
Today, Christianity is certainly more "liberal" regarding women's rights, LGBT rights, etc. compared to Islam. There are also differences between sects, with Catholicism being one of the most liberal and Evangelicalism being one of the most conservative. But this is not due to characteristics of Christianity itself- think of Catholicism in the Middle Ages, which would be on par with if not stricter than even the most extremely conservative sects of Islam today. The degree to which women's rights are present in a particular religion depends not on thew religion itself, but on the social circumstances of the region and people who practice it. In the early Middle Ages, women in the Middle East had greater rights than women in Europe, even though the Middle East was still predominantly Muslim and Europe was still predominantly Christian. It was simply the case that regions like Arabia were more "cosmopolitan" and had a more delocalized lifestyle at the time.
Today, countries in which Christianity is most dominant(mostly in Europe, the Anglosphere, countries previously influenced by Europe such as Philippines and Korea) generally have the greatest amount of freedoms for women. But this is less so due to Christianity, and more so because those countries happen to be already wealthy and with a more "modern" life style. I'm sure African countries which practice Christianity are still similarly conservative compared to current Islamic countries. In the future, if countries with predominantly Muslim populations become wealthier, I'm sure their societies will become more sexually liberal whilst still being Muslim.
So no, Islam is not inherently more conservative compared to Christianity. Supporting Islam does not mean much, because the level of "conservatism" is determined by the society that practices Islam. Supporting certain restrictions on women's behaviors should therefore be done for its own sake, not due to a religion.
2. Islam as a religion does not contain wholly "good" guidelines for incels.
Other than suppressing women's rights, its core tenets do not benefit incels all that much. For instance, it allows polygamy- this creates an unequal environment. Also, as an organized, Abrahamic religion, it must in some way encourage followers to follow some sort of hierarchy- whether it be a local leader like a pastor, imam, or rabbi, or an extreme hierarchy with priests, cardinals, and the pope. Like most other religions, Islam mandates that one must follow religious law and act as part of a group. This is obviously bad for those who are persecuted under the status quo and seek to achieve some kind of change. It promotes following outdated rules such as not eating pork(important in a hot climate without refrigeration where pork spoils quickly, irrelevant today) or praying five times daily facing Mecca. As a primary reason for our issues is that society and women's preferences are rooted in obsolete factors, I believe that following a religion that puts a great deal of focus on adherence to tradition is bad.
So, the only positive aspect of Islam for incels is its repression of women's freedoms, but this is not a trait inherent to the religion.
And I don't think that atheism and sexual freedom must necessarily be correlated, either. I am an atheist but I have "conservative" social values- not because my religion tells me so, but due to their societal implications. Really, these old religious rules enforcing things like monogamy or celibacy are for the same purpose- getting a population to follow some guideline without having to explain to them why. Now, in the current time, with all our knowledge about sociology, we know why certain behaviors like hypergamy are bad- we have no need for religion to support this.
