Based is touted as a means to justify giving up

[Deleted member 35239]

(Still editing accidently posted on mobile)

The information used to rationalize the Blackpill is undoubtedly useful, as it points to several fundamental problems in human nature, society and so on. But using those facts to incite a band wagon to remain stagnant and not use the little power we have to fix it, or at least make it better for other people in a similar position, is an issue.

We're acting just like the normies and chads, except worse because we're ignoring the problem despite being aware of it. Even if no obvious solutions present themselves, it's better for us to encourage one another to struggle against reality's innate cruelty then to remain passive observers.

There are solutions to our predicament, many of which will take a long time with protracted effort, of varying intensity depending on the person, and we know it. But we need to be willing to fail repeatedly and experiment in order to make them a reality. To be on the bottom rung means having to put in more effort than anyone else for the same results, and that is a hard truth to confront. The question is: does it matter enough to us?

Is banking on the smidgen of a chance you can have wife, a decent career and an overall content existence by putting yourself out there worth the next decade spent in misery?

 

[Angry_runt]

If you have a plan to fix it, I'm all ears

 

[Deleted member 31869]

COPE

 

[Deleted member 35476]

Massive cope

 

[Deleted member 35239]

If you have a plan to fix it, I'm all ears

Assuming your goal is a romantic relationship and a job where you can support it; there are things you can do for yourself on an individual level to increase your chances. The most important aspect would be the mental specifically: developing thicker skin, setting an aspiration, knowing where you stand in terms of principles and never breaking off from them.

You need to be able to know yourself and the person you want to be. People who have that figured out carry a certain energy that is magnetic to women.

Self-esteem ties in with that. If you don't value yourself, it gets across and women are especially sensitive to that. It gets across in the tone of voice and body language, but also your personal hygiene, hair and clothes.

Anyway, lets say you've minmaxed yourself and were rejected thousands of times. At that point you orient your goals accordingly. Perhap commissioning or making bioengineered women that can be groomed to love you, or ordering/creating state-of-the-art procedures to ascend. Regardless, you don't waste any time or energy on sulking or just giving up.

You either ascend through your own effort, or work to make people in similar straits not have to suffer what you have.

 

[Deleted member 35171]

Post summary:
"Just be confident and betabuxx brooo"

 

[Deleted member 35239]

Post summary:
"Just be confident and betabuxx brooo

Be confident and don't betabuxx shit more like.

If that's all you gleamed then I'm concerned about your reading comprehension.

 

[Kamikaze]

So what you're saying is that we need surgeries

 

[Deleted member 35239]

So what you're saying is that we need surgeries

Possibly

 

[Angry_runt]

Assuming your goal is a romantic relationship and a job where you can support it; there are things you can do for yourself on an individual level to increase your chances.

I would hope everyone rotting here has first tried to ascend through self improvement and actually talking to women.

Anyway, lets say you've minmaxed yourself and were rejected thousands of times.

Thousands of times is a bit too much.

making bioengineered women that can be groomed to love you, or ordering/creating state-of-the-art procedures to ascend

So you went to just-self-improve-and-be-confident to genetic engineering of humans. Maybe pussy isn't that important and giving up on it is preferable?

 

[Deleted member 35239]

I would hope everyone rotting here has first tried to ascend through self improvement and actually talking to women.


Thousands of times is a bit too much.



So you went to just-self-improve-and-be-confident to genetic engineering of humans. Maybe pussy isn't that important and giving up on it is preferable?

1) I have the impression that prolonged self-improvement and starting conversations with women with a fresh mindset, despite countless rejections and negative outcomes, along with making reasonable adjustments based on people's feedback with a learner's mindset, is unlikely to have been done by the majority of people I've seen on here.

2) Not really. Remember that if this matters enough we're doing everything in our power, which means at least that much.

3) Yeah I think goals should be oriented to those things or something similar if you've failed thousands of times.

 

[Sub8]

The only solutions: LookMaxing & MoneyMaxing (So you can afford more LookMaxing Strategies)

It won't be enough to ascend all of us, and many aspects of looks maxing take decades by which time most of us will be too old.

Still it's a good cope.

Trying to do pickup as a nonChad will only make you more bitter, make your emotional association between pain and rejection and women even stronger and mess you up in the head even more. But I think every incel should do 1000 approaches to confirm that they are in fact a nonChad, but after that you're just building a creepy reputation and messing up your brain and emotionally destroying yourself.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Mogs me

 

[BlkPillPres]

But I think every incel should do 1000 approaches to confirm that they are in fact a nonChad,

1. Who even has this kind of free time?

2. You guys aren't taking into consideration "standards attrition"

The more you fail and the more shitty and depressed you feel from those failures, the more desperate you become and the more you lower your standards. Until you wake up one day with a used up 4/10, but you legitimately think you got yourself "a prize". This is the danger of endlessly chasing after the delusion of "ascension"

[Hard To Swallow Edition] Ascension For Most Men Is A Matter Of Time, Not A Matter Of Effort (The Danger Of "Standards Attrition")

I have made a few threads on "ascension" before This one is my favorite, as its very detailed and shows how at every stage of your ascension you have more trials to face where if you fail you lose everything...

incels.is

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

GrAYcel thread.

 

[Sub8]

2. You guys aren't taking into consideration "standards attrition"

The more you fail and the more shitty and depressed you feel from those failures, the more desperate you become and the more you lower your standards. Until you wake up one day with a used up 4/10, but you legitimately think you got yourself "a prize". This is the danger of endlessly chasing after the delusion of "ascension"

[Hard To Swallow Edition] Ascension For Most Men Is A Matter Of Time, Not A Matter Of Effort (The Danger Of "Standards Attrition")

I have made a few threads on "ascension" before This one is my favorite, as its very detailed and shows how at every stage of your ascension you have more trials to face where if you fail you lose everything...

incels.is

Based. I can attest to this, I got to the point where I was chasing grossly obese women that I had zero attraction to (the bottom 0.1%), neither personality nor looks and made me physically nauseous to be around. I stopped looking at porn and only would attempt to imagine having sex with women like this in hopes that I could over come my instinctual revolution. Nothing ever came of these.

But overall the phycological damage of chasing and being ignored by tens of thousands of women online and offline took nearly a full decade to recover from.

So, I take it back, a thousand approaches isn't necessary to realize you're non Chad. Not getting matches online is enough because if you don't get any matches from your pictures then it's going to be just as fucked IRL. I mean, maybe you could get into the friend zone IRL if you had amazing social skills and you didn't look too bad, I've met some friend zoned guys that met the girls IRL, although they get treated like trash as friends, used for rides and resources, and eventually discarded.