Is There An Evolutionairy Purpose to Facial Attractiveness?

[KaizenYagi]

So the whole red pill belief behind the cock carousel, is the fems wanting chad genetics. Sexy son hypothesis. Then in the modern environment immediately prior to hitting the wall or somewhere thereabouts finding a good baby faced betabux to provide for her genetically superior love child. This is optimized to modern mating economics, but what about historical survival? So the square jaw corresponds to more testosterone, better skin means greater testosterone tolerance, symmetry means more genetic resilience. However little of this speaks to subjective beauty. Plain good looks. Shannen Doherty is hot, but has a totally asymetrical face. From a pure survival standpoint a fugly big dude is stronger, and a better defender. So pretty is coveted, but essentially useless for survival. Fugly squatch picks up 8/10 faced 5'9 Abercrombie chadlet, and throws him off cliff after clubbing wild animal to death for family dinner.

Anyways, the Koreans mapped out accupuncture regions, the Chinese parts of your tongue to different organs, parts of your feet to the same. Do you guys suppose that like synergy in immune systems that is discerned via pheremones, that facial features correspond to internal or psychological factors like kidney strength, weather tolerance, mental resilience, etc? Because it would explain why an otherwise useless trait like facial attractiveness would mean so much to people. Objectively good looking features signal internal system quality, subjective preferences indicate ways to remediate your own deficits in offspring by acquiring them from a mate. What do you all think?

 

[mcfroggy]

Most preferences for beauty are cultural like skinny/chubby women, small/big penises for men, or skin color. Symmetry is beautiful because it matches nature, and shows that your body is in balance and doesn't have injury or skeletal problems. The orange pigment in the skin shows how many nutrients and good foods you consume, just like in almost every animal where coloring reveals the quality of its diet and therefore how evolutionarily fit it is. If you have eyebags then it signals you have sinus problems. Idk you went full retard in the 2nd paragraph, but beauty is meant to signal that you aren't sick and have plenty of resources to provide for the mate. In medival times fat women were desirable BC everyone was thin from working the field, and nowadays with so much shit food being skinny is desirable BC lots of ppl work sedentary jobs. But both women would have to have smooth clear skin to be considered beautiful.

 

[Numb]

There's even an area in your brain purely dedicated to facial recognition, I would assume you're looking at this from a pure evolutionary psychology standpoint. Societies beauty standards aren't congruent with "pure logical survival instinct". For instance in women, you could technically say "bigger burlier" women are better suited to procreate than "skinny" women. Yet we see that in most societies the first is seen as "superior". I think the brain only cares about said attributes to a certain extent, then the rest is simply morphed into with what the society groomed its people to think "attractive" means. A good example of this would be those "k-pop" male singers that look feminine af, logically we could assume that it's the society grooming people to make them perceive the singers as attractive. We can argue about how asian men have less T. But at the same time we can't assume the society doesn't play a role

 

[KaizenYagi]

Symmetry is beautiful because it matches nature, and shows that your body is in balance and doesn't have injury or skeletal problems. The orange pigment in the skin shows how many nutrients and good foods you consume, just like in almost every animal where coloring reveals the quality of its diet and therefore how evolutionarily fit it is. If you have eyebags then it signals you have sinus problems.

...beauty is meant to signal that you aren't sick and have plenty of resources to provide for the mate.

I agree with the above portion being indicators of health, but beauty as a signal that you have plenty of resources doesn't square with modern reality. Like Steve Buscemi with clear skin is not pretty, but he's pretty well to do. Or Mark Zuckerberg for example. If the traits are heritable, and not something that can be easily changed or changed at all in a generation by effort or environment, it can't be a signal for resource possesion.

There's even an area in your brain purely dedicated to facial recognition, I would assume you're looking at this from a pure evolutionary psychology standpoint. Societies beauty standards aren't congruent with "pure logical survival instinct". For instance in women, you could technically say "bigger burlier" women are better suited to procreate than "skinny" women. Yet we see that in most societies the first is seen as "superior". I think the brain only cares about said attributes to a certain extent, then the rest is simply morphed into with what the society groomed its people to think "attractive" means. A good example of this would be those "k-pop" male singers that look feminine af, logically we could assume that it's the society grooming people to make them perceive the singers as attractive. We can argue about how asian men have less T. But at the same time we can't assume the society doesn't play a role

Idk, is beauty a social construct? How long does it take for people to be reprogrammed? This would make the body/fat acceptance movement right. I know they have been plastering fatties in bathing suits on in store displays at Targets, and Meiers for a year or two, and American women have been landwhales for at least 15, but I still find them disgusting.

The Kpop thing, I can see your point, but at the same time I wonder if it is suggestibility, and responsiveness to social authority considering stars are often manufactured especially in Asia. Do those chicks dig Kpop looking dudes irl, or just specific celebrities? Half of your rock stars are fugly, but they slay due to status. If you look at half of the models on magazine covers you realize you have seen way better looking girls in real life. Yet people always think celebrities are beautiful. I agree there is a large social conditioning aspect to promoting specific individuals as attractive, but does this change things irl on the street?

I can imagine Becky having mass orgasms during sex with Chad, but if KPop was mainstreamed in the States, would she be enjoying some effete hipster with a pinkie to the same extent?

 

[GetFucked]

Good face symmetry is simply an indicator of good health. Society does play a huge role in what is deemed attractive
If you look at the bones of early humans they we're symmetrical but also robust to the point that they'd be considered ugly in modern times. There seems to be a trend of humans getting more and more feminine as a whole.