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Most incels aren’t pedos at all, but I’ve heard that among the worst predators, a significant portion of them are loners, recluses, friendless, etc.

Is this true? Anyone know of any links or studies showing this?
 
It would make sense, since they missed out on teen love, they try to make up for it by trying to date young girls
 
It would make sense, since they missed out on teen love, they try to make up for it by trying to date young girls
Yes. And I also think there’s another factor at play as well.

Many incels and loners also didn’t enjoy their youth due to their loneliness and perhaps other problems (often caused by fatherlessness). I think that as they get older and realize that they’ve been unhappy their whole lives, they desire to return to a younger stage in life, when everything was supposed to have been happy or just free of problems and distress.
 
Many incels and loners also didn’t enjoy their youth due to their loneliness and perhaps other problems (often caused by fatherlessness). I think that as they get older and realize that they’ve been unhappy their whole lives, they desire to return to a younger stage in life, when everything was supposed to have been happy or just free of problems and distress.
Thats pretty much the teen love pill. You will never be truly happy in life if you missed out on teen love. Houellebecq was right
 
Thats pretty much the teen love pill. You will never be truly happy in life if you missed out on teen love. Houellebecq was right
Yeah. I also heard that this is common among troons. No father figure leads to several problems. And the unhappiness in life causes them to want to revert to childhood. Well that describes how easy women have it in life.
 
Yeah. I also heard that this is common among troons. No father figure leads to several problems. And the unhappiness in life causes them to want to revert to childhood. Well that describes how easy women have it in life.
I dont deny the importance of having a strong father figure, but a masculine father doesnt make up for being short and neurodivergent
 
Most incels aren’t pedos at all, but I’ve heard that among the worst predators, a significant portion of them are loners, recluses, friendless, etc.
I think there are two factors:
First, many autists are sexual deviants and are also often loners and friendless. Some of these deviants are pedophiles.

Secondly, pedophiles cannot talk about a significant part of their sexual preferences to a lot of people. As a result, I can imagine them being more reclusive and loners. Also, some child abusers are technically not pedophiles but just have sex with children as they might be more easily accessible.
 
It would make sense, since they missed out on teen love, they try to make up for it by trying to date young girls

A pedophile is a man who is solely sexually attracted to prepubescent children. (whether that's to girls and/or boys.) (yes, I define pedophile as a man — because the blatant fact of the matter is pedophiles are men. There are women who experience sexual attraction to prepubescent children and sexually abuse or rape them, but it's clearly a different thing because women are different; I don't have this generalized "MAP" framing that I think obfuscates this) (and yes, I said solely — because pedophilia is an affliction certain men suffer from, and if they at all will have sexual attraction to developed girls/women, I don't think they truly suffer from it.)

A girl a few years below 18 isn't that. They're developed and pubescent. Having a thing for younger girls is ephebophilia.

And I am not condoning anyone breaking the law and having sex with minors, just pointing out that people who think a man attracted to a 7 year old and man attracted to a 17 year old are both "pedophiles" are retards. The former is, the latter is not. (irrespective if he is 20, 30, or 40. I agree the older the guy is the more likely he is predatory to an adolescent/adolescent adjacent young girl, but this is not the point.)

Having a genuine discussion on this subject begins by being sober and properly and consistently understanding and defining the terms used.
 
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many autists are sexual deviants and are also often loners and friendless. Some of these deviants are pedophiles
Yes. And if you search on Twitter/X, it’s being reported that many paraphilias are comorbid, which means that sexual deviants don’t just possess one abnormal fetish, but several.

pedophiles cannot talk about a significant part of their sexual preferences to a lot of people. As a result, I can imagine them being more reclusive and loners
Yeah makes sense. Even particularly disturbing, I’ve heard, are predators who are sexually aroused by unintentional actions. Which means that they only get turned on/sexually aroused at actions involving minors that occur unintentionally. This could reflect what you described.
 
A pedophile is a man who is solely sexually attracted to prepubescent children. (whether that's to girls and/or boys.) (yes, I define pedophile as a man, there are women who experience sexual attraction to prepubescent children and sexually abuse or rape them, but it's clearly a different thing because women are different; I don't have this generalized "MAP" framing that I think obfuscates this) (and yes, I said solely, because pedophilia is an affliction certain men suffer from, and if they at all will have sexual attraction to developed girls/women, I don't think they truly suffer from it.)

A girl a few years below 18 isn't that. They're developed and pubescent. Having a thing for younger girls is ephebophilia/pederasty.

And I am not condoning anyone breaking the law and having sex with minors, just pointing out that people who think a man being attracted to a 7 year old and a 17 year old is both "pedophilia" are retards.

Having a genuine discussion on this subject begins by being sober and properly and consistently understanding and defining the terms used.
Im aware of all of that, i just said young girls to refer to prepubescent girls
 
Im aware of all of that, i just said young girls to refer to prepubescent girls

Got it, I'm glad we're on the same page about it.

I understand that now, but the wording "young girls" could mean anywhere from the youngest prepubescent children, to girls in their 20's. That's why I'm very precise with my wording, and say terms like "prepubescent girls" to be clear. The very people I criticized in my above reply will wording like "young girls" to justify their warped framing, but you're clearly already aware of this.
 
Got it, I'm glad we're on the same page about it.

I understand that now, but the wording "young girls" could mean anywhere from the youngest prepubescent children, to girls in their 20's. That's why I'm very precise with my wording, and say terms like "prepubescent girls" to be clear. The very people I criticized in my above reply will wording like "young girls" to justify their warped framing, but you're clearly already aware of this.
I get what you mean, i cant stand agecucks as well who will claim that a 17 year old girl is still a kid
 
Thats pretty much the teen love pill. You will never be truly happy in life if you missed out on teen love. Houellebecq was right
"'You take all your examples from adolescence, which is indeed an important period in life, but when all is said and done it only occupies an exceedingly brief fraction of this. Are you not afraid, then, that your conclusions, the finesse and rigour of which we admire, may ultimately turn out to be both partial and limited?' To this amiable adversary I will reply that adolescence is not only an important period in life, but that it is the only period where one may speak of life in the full sense of the word. The attractile drives are unleashed around the age of thirteen, after which they gradually diminish, or rather they are resolved in models of behaviour which are, after all, only constrained forces. The violence of the initial explosion means that the outcome of the conflict may remain uncertain for years; this is what is called a transitory regime in electrodynamics. But little by little the oscillations become slower, to the point of resolving themselves in mild and melancholic long waves; from this moment on all is decided, and life is nothing more than a preparation for death. This can be expressed in a more brutal and less exact way by saying that man is a diminished adolescent."
 
"'You take all your examples from adolescence, which is indeed an important period in life, but when all is said and done it only occupies an exceedingly brief fraction of this. Are you not afraid, then, that your conclusions, the finesse and rigour of which we admire, may ultimately turn out to be both partial and limited?' To this amiable adversary I will reply that adolescence is not only an important period in life, but that it is the only period where one may speak of life in the full sense of the word. The attractile drives are unleashed around the age of thirteen, after which they gradually diminish, or rather they are resolved in models of behaviour which are, after all, only constrained forces. The violence of the initial explosion means that the outcome of the conflict may remain uncertain for years; this is what is called a transitory regime in electrodynamics. But little by little the oscillations become slower, to the point of resolving themselves in mild and melancholic long waves; from this moment on all is decided, and life is nothing more than a preparation for death. This can be expressed in a more brutal and less exact way by saying that man is a diminished adolescent."
This text looks like someone used as many foreign words as possible to sound smart
 
Orphaned by the teenage loves you've never had.
 
Yes. And if you search on Twitter/X, it’s being reported that many paraphilias are comorbid, which means that sexual deviants don’t just possess one abnormal fetish, but several.
Yes, that's why also a significantly larger number of pedophiles are homo- or bisexual.
, I’ve heard, are predators who are sexually aroused by unintentional actions. Which means that they only get turned on/sexually aroused at actions involving minors that occur unintentionally. This could reflect what you described.
What do you mean with "unintentional" actions? Like a minor falling and exposing themselves? How often does that happen?
 
I think there are two factors:
First, many autists are sexual deviants and are also often loners and friendless. Some of these deviants are pedophiles.

Secondly, pedophiles cannot talk about a significant part of their sexual preferences to a lot of people. As a result, I can imagine them being more reclusive and loners. Also, some child abusers are technically not pedophiles but just have sex with children as they might be more easily accessible.

Which is literally counterproductive from the vantage point of wanting to protect children from potential abusers, for obvious reasons given it drives it underground.

Actually the majority of people who sexually abuse children aren't pedophiles. And if someone can make a point of being a self identified diagnosed pedophile, they are less likely to actually do something like this, for it is a sign they are aware of and seeking help for their condition. (I didn't say it was a guarantee and that there is no reason for anyone to have caution around any diagnosed self admitted pedophile...)

Obviously, distinguishing pedophiles who have not and would not harm a child from those who have or would is important to preventing abuse to children. Those who refuse to do this are being counterproductive toward the prospect of protecting children. Also, talk of "killing all pedophiles" is stupid and obviously contrary to civilized society, to the point there's no logical counterargument to be given to such a sentiment. (it also importantly wouldn't work — because we don't fully understand nor have the means to prevent what causes pedophilia, as what I quoted below explains, the next generation of people would just produce more anyway)

Normies aren't interested in this because their goal is not to protect children. (honestly, consider how much school violates the bodily autonomy of children, physically forcing them to spend most of every day being tortured by psychopaths in a concentration camp, so if normies were actually against abusing children, they'd have to think like me and oppose the system and all institutions in it, but they obviously don't.) That's why they have so much bigotry and sweeping condemnation to pedophiles.

So in fact a civilized perspective is to regard pedophiles with the sober understanding I have here and pity them for having a desire not within their control, differentiate the ones who have or would harm a child from the virtuous ones, take action to stop the former from abuse while allowing the latter to have acceptable outlets. (no one is harmed in the making of loli and child sex dolls, for instance. Australia's law punishes people found with child sex dolls with years in jail.)

If you like reading, you should read this page of this website. It really makes great points. I will cite two parts from it below.

Also you may wonder why I have investment in this subject. I am not a pedophile at all, neither do I experience any particular attraction to young girls. (just 18 etc.) If anything, I am attracted to women being fully developed and mature, the same age as me, (I am 29) and not straddling the line of adolescence and so on.

The reason I think about this subject a lot is because I'm genuinely interested in a comprehensive intellectual understanding of society and its hypocrisy. Actually due to how contentious this subject is, it's especially good at revealing normie hypocrisy.

Why should anyone but a pedophile care about pedophiles?

One reason you should care is that it could be your child. According to the best available evidence, most pedophiles first become aware of their condition in our early teens. We start like everyone else. We first become attracted to kids who are our own age. As we grow older, however, our attractions do not. Gradually we become aware of our condition.

Believing the popular wisdom that we are evil and will inevitably abuse children, many of us experience depression, self-loathing and sometimes become suicidal. If you had a teenager who was unfortunate enough to have pedophilia, is that the kind of life that you would want for them?

Wouldn’t you rather that they understood that they can’t be evil simply because they have a sexual attraction that they didn’t choose and can’t change? Wouldn’t you want them to understand that they don’t have to act on that attraction, and that there are resources available to help them manage it and lead a happy, productive, law-abiding life? Wouldn’t you want people to judge them based on the life they choose to live and not based on their having certain feelings? Wouldn’t you want them to accept and love themselves? If your answers to these questions are yes, then you should hope something changes for us, even if you do not know (or do not think you know) anyone with pedophilia.

What causes pedophilia?

The short answer is that no one knows. Science can’t yet explain why people have the sexual preferences they have. The science of why some people are sexually attracted to children has been especially slow to make progress. We do not think it matters much how people get these attractions. Nobody chooses to have pedophilia, and nobody has yet produced widely-accepted evidence that anyone knows how to make pedophilic preferences go away.
 
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Golly, I ain't never heard about that before!
 

Friezacel might as well just be a MOD on IT at this point.​

Pedophilia is wrong and YES a 15yo is a minor by law.
 
What do you mean with "unintentional" actions? Like a minor falling and exposing themselves? How often does that happen?
As a random fetish example, being sexually aroused at a girl breaking a lamp accidentally, but not intentionally like if you told her to
 
If you're lonely you're more likely to take whatever intimacy you can get I suppose.

Like farmers and sheep. lol
 
This text looks like someone used as many foreign words as possible to sound smart
Nigga, this is literally Houellebecq. It is from the book "Whatever". It sounds like that because it is translated from French.
 
Nigga, this is literally Houellebecq. It is from the book "Whatever". It sounds like that because it is translated from French.
The subtitle in the movie described what he was trying to say a lot better
 
Women and attractive men cannot be seen as pedophiles.

Thus, only ugly men can be pedophiles.

Ugly men are often alone because we're worthless scum to society.

So, correlation or whatever.
 
The subtitle in the movie described what he was trying to say a lot better
This passage is the single most brutal text about the teen love pill I have ever read. DNRceldom is a disease.
 
Women and attractive men cannot be seen as pedophiles.

Thus, only ugly men can be pedophiles.

Ugly men are often alone because we're worthless scum to society.

So, correlation or whatever.
The Archetype of one is a fat overweight guy in his late 40s jerking off at his computer, really is the Reverse halo effect whereas female ones are often given far more lenient punishments, or hell even getting sympathy.
 
This passage is the single most brutal text about the teen love pill I have ever read. DNRceldom is a disease.
I did read everything, its just that i dont like the choosing of words in that quote
 
Women and attractive men cannot be seen as pedophiles.

Thus, only ugly men can be pedophiles.

Ugly men are often alone because we're worthless scum to society.

So, correlation or whatever.

Yes, very attractive men who are actual pedophiles are essentially unheard of.

Chad bagging a 15 year old while getting away with it/doing it somewhere where this is legal obviously doesn't count.

Pedophiles can vary in their attractiveness, but usually, they are just pretty fucked up dudes overall. (For instance, picture what the guy in the video I am about to link to looks like before you click the link to it...now do so — were you surprised? Were you also surprised he was abused as a child?) Basically, they have a neurological condition that is caused by a combination of something being fucked up about them from birth, a fucked up childhood, and being socially dejected due to being ugly. Because the vast majority of ugly and socially dejected men obviously are not pedophiles, so pedophiles are pedophiles because of a combination of being unfortunate and being exceptionally fucked up on top of that.

Despite what I cited from that website in my above reply, I actually disagree with it saying "we don't know what causes pedophilia and we don't think it matters." (in the second quote, at the very bottom of the reply) First of all we can understand what causes it to some extent, and obviously what causes it does matter, and isn't as mysterious as they're making it out to be. They're obviously biased to frame it this way because they don't want to confront the obvious and hurt the feelings of pedophiles. What you just wrote is correct.

I'm motivated by seeking the objective truth and my hatred of normies who reject it for hypocritical reasons here, not a moral crusade of particular concern for individuals who are pedophiles. If some really fucked up miserable isolated ugly guy who is a pedophile and wants to fuck children ropes, I'm not shedding tears over that.
 
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As a random fetish example, being sexually aroused at a girl breaking a lamp accidentally, but not intentionally like if you told her to
Ah, that actually makes sense. So I guess some pedophiles are attracted to the "child-like mentality" of the children and being clumsy definitely is considered child-like. It's also a bit consistent with "normal" attraction. Many heterosexuals are attracted by stereotypically submissive/feminine-acting women and I guess that's a bit of an equivalent for pedophiles.
(no one is harmed in the making of loli and child sex dolls, for instance. Australia's law punishes people found with child sex dolls with years in jail.
Yeah, I also really dislike that people fight pedophiles instead of child abusers. I think as long as they don't harm children, they should do whatever they want.
 
Pedophiles can vary in their attractiveness, but usually, they are just pretty fucked up dudes overall. (For instance, picture what the guy in the video I am about to link to looks like before you click the link to it...now do so — were you surprised?
I don't believe "falling in love" exists or whatever it's supposed to mean. He wants to fuck kids but he either can't, or knows it's not worth the risk trying to do it and can control himself.

I don't think there's any difference between him and that 20-year old Chad most of us knew in high school was fucking the little 14-year old girl. Chad can just get away with it. He can do it and society will defend him, as has been proven with content posted here.
 
I don't believe "falling in love" exists or whatever it's supposed to mean. He wants to fuck kids but he either can't, or knows it's not worth the risk trying to do it and can control himself.

Yes, we're in agreement.

It seems you watched the video, or at least enough of it to hear the part where he says "it's not just physical attraction for me, I've actually met a child and then fallen in love with the child, and there's no way I can fulfill that."

The whole falling in love thing is mystification. Really it's that there's this physical sexual desire for pedophiles, the same that us ordinary straight guys feel for women. They simply have the urge to have sex with children where most men have it for women. Then all the talk of emotions or love comes after that, in that order. He's mystifying it by implying the emotional element/love/whatever comes first, but that obviously doesn't make any sense. Because if he was a guy with a normal sexual orientation like we are, he'd just have the normal physical sexual attraction to adult women like we do. So under no sun does emphasizing emotional elements as the primary thing make sense.

And I'm glad you said this, because I'm someone who thinks a lot which is a double-edged sword because I can write good lengthy comments but I often overthink things and fail to point out basic truths, like this. I would've gotten there if I wrote about the video on my own but only after some analysis that would've likely given the "falling in love" thing too much credence before arriving there.

I don't think there's any difference between him and that 20-year old Chad most of us knew in high school was fucking the little 14-year old girl. Chad can just get away with it. He can do it and society will defend him, as has been proven with content posted here.

I agree with the point you are getting across here. You got to the heart of the hypocrisy with normies here. As you said, the whole pedophile panic thing is just a way to justify kicking disenfranchised men when they're already down, and morally justifying the miserable state they're already in, all while giving Chad and the worst women a free pass to suppress any acknowledgement of the hypocrisy.

Regarding communities like the "virtuous pedophile" website I just brought up, the logical conclusion of what you're saying only demonstrates that by going out of their way to diagnose/medicalize themselves as "pedophiles" they are only supporting the problem in the system/normie society saying "there is something wrong with them" when really the problem is simply that they aren't Chad. If they were Chad and the same in every other way, they wouldn't be "pedophiles." It's really that simple. Things come down to genetics/rote physical appearance more than retarded normies can ever admit. (the vast majority of normies aren't Chad, but exist to run cover for him and foids)

Obviously if Mr. hook hand in that interview video was better looking and living in the Philippines or Thailand, I don't think we'd be hearing about him being a miserable celibate "pedophile" and seeing all these psychiatrists and being a poster-child "virtuous pedophile," because he'd be satiating his desires every day JFL. (look up the French politician
Frédéric Mitterrand — it came out well into his political career he went to Thailand and fucked boy prostitutes for a while, and it was only a minor scandal in France, actually many praised him for honesty...so it is a cultural thing, especially an Anglo and American thing, because even in another Western country it isn't a hysteria/problem like it is here)

However, when being objective about actual pedophiles, which are a thing (that the normies you criticized can't properly differentiate) I emphasize pre pubescence and post pubescence because biology is the main factor in determining if someone is literally a pedophile, which I get isn't what you are talking about here, rather normies arbitrary obviously biased standards of who they deem "pedophiles." Because you brought up the example of a 14 year old. But surely an actual pedophile who is sexually attracted to a 7 year old is different.

Anyone would agree that a 20 year old is closer to a 30 year old than a 7 year old.

But a 14 year old is closer to a 20 year old than a 7 year old, right?

Therefore, a 14 year old is past the threshold for pedophilia.

Girls really begin puberty at about age 10. Let's be generous and define a pedophile as a man who actually only experiences sexual attraction to girls under the age of 10 years old. Having a thing for ones on the younger side, say 12, 13, or 14, I could grant as not being pedophilia as they'd be well into puberty, so it's really the low end of ephebophilia if anything. But there are really people with a condition where they can't help experience attraction to very young prepubescent children, like wanting to fuck a 7 year old. It's not entirely clear why this is the case, and honestly, as long as society broadly is convinced that attraction to pubescent teenagers is anything comparable, I don't think it ever will be.

My grandmother married my grandfather when she was 14 years old, I shit you not. (my grandfather was in his 20's) My father is Iranian, (my mother is a white american, I'm half Iranian) this was in Iran in the 1940's. Needless to say, it was traditional marriage and they remained married until their deaths.
 
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I don't believe "falling in love" exists or whatever it's supposed to mean. He wants to fuck kids but he either can't, or knows it's not worth the risk trying to do it and can control himself.

I don't think there's any difference between him and that 20-year old Chad most of us knew in high school was fucking the little 14-year old girl. Chad can just get away with it. He can do it and society will defend him, as has been proven with content posted here.
Thats really the trick. Chad can do whatever he wants, pedophilia doesnt apply to him. To him its just a "fetish." Or a "preference" ahaha. Case in point, Steven van der Velde. Chad can fuck a 9 year old and get away with it. Actual pedophiles, those who are normie or sub5, who suffer from their own vices know they can't act on them like Chad does. I'm 18 for instance, and given the opportunity I would totally have consensual sex with a post-pubescent 13 or 14 year old. Ban me, i don't care. You would too. The difference is...well just look at me. So pedophilia is just another non-issue for attractive people is what I mean. The pedophile problem is what occurs when after exhausting ways to torment sub 5 men, normies created a new issue out of something that was culturally acceptable for centuries..
 
I don't believe "falling in love" exists or whatever it's supposed to mean. He wants to fuck kids but he either can't, or knows it's not worth the risk trying to do it and can control himself.

I don't think there's any difference between him and that 20-year old Chad most of us knew in high school was fucking the little 14-year old girl. Chad can just get away with it. He can do it and society will defend him, as has been proven with content posted here.

Another point of normie hypocrisy: foids expressing pedophilic inclinations is a common phenomena. I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out here, but I can't think of a thread that does off the top of my head.

I used to know a horrible foid who was 32 years old who once posted an Instagram story that was a photo of the young boy (between 6 - 12 years old) she was babysitting and she wrote some shit like he "gratified/excited my ovaries."

Could you imagine a guy the same age as her babysitting a girl age 6 - 12 who did the same thing and took a picture of her and wrote she did things for his testes? Flaunting this for everyone to see on social media? It's literally the exact same thing except the genders are reversed.

Foids are given a pass to be as creepy freaky and insane as they want but if men engaged in the same behavior, we'd be cut off from society.

Foids sexually abuse young boys and get away with it all the time, but some socially reclusive guy who happens to be ugly accidentally admits to the wrong person he is sexually attracted to teenage girls he's branded a "pedophile," medically castrated etc. jfl
 
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I don't think there's any difference between him and that 20-year old Chad most of us knew in high school was fucking the little 14-year old girl. Chad can just get away with it. He can do it and society will defend him, as has been proven with content posted here.
Thats really the trick. Chad can do whatever he wants, pedophilia doesnt apply to him. To him its just a "fetish." Or a "preference" ahaha.

 
No, it's just that good looking / NT / rich pedos don't get caught.
 
27 bluepillers, i see who's attracting attention now
 
It would make sense, since they missed out on teen love, they try to make up for it by trying to date young girls
Attraction to teen girls isn’t pedophilia, normtard
 
Women and attractive men cannot be seen as pedophiles.

Thus, only ugly men can be pedophiles.

Ugly men are often alone because we're worthless scum to society.

So, correlation or whatever.
 
No, but there is one between j*** and ped0phili4. And they have had no trauma during their lives. They live in absolute privilege.
 
Attraction to teen girls isn’t pedophilia, normtard
Anyone who argues otherwise is blind and delusional. Attraction doesn't come after reading the date on a birth certificate, it comes from looks and girls are visually developed years before they're legal
 
Anyone who argues otherwise is blind and delusional. Attraction doesn't come after reading the date on a birth certificate, it comes from looks and girls are visually developed years before they're legal
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