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I've had people asking me this. PUA helps with girls but little can that work if you don't have the dark triading that women find attractive on a general basis. Does anyone have any forums that discuss dark triad leverage at length or is this not a thing people would want?
 
Kevin mitnick, Frank abagnale, those 2 are the top social engineers of the last century. Also body language books like "what every body is saying" may help but bear in mind a lot of it is outdated or culturally specific.
 
Information is power, manipulation only really works if you have background on the person you're trying to actively manipulate.
 
You can try lying to girls
 
You can try lying to girls
It's ironic that girls encourage being yourself when absolutely NO guy can possibly have any incentive to be with girls unless they want sex (in some form or another). They know this.
And the only way to get with a girl (past their primality/ hormonality) is to be a good showman. Which they can't be being themselves. Not even chad can be himself without faux pas-ing his relationship into an early grave.
Women know even chad isn't being himself .But they don't acre. "being yourself"/ "confidence" are just false detours of cause/ stipulation/ etc. that women emphasize. When in reality a lot of that is just a detraction away from the real criteria of love/ consideration/ care they really have. Which is pure primality/ superficial substance, with a low emphasis of morality/ dignity/ personal bearing.
 
PUA only works if you are good looking with good genetics. Heck you can open with "Hello bitch. Why don't you fuck off?" and she'd laugh at your opener/rapport break as positive due to the primal halo effect of flirtations underpinned with a proposed exchange of genetic material.

But so few guys possess good genetics, other than delusional copecels, you might as well say PUA is a 100% failure rate.
 
It's ironic that girls encourage being yourself when absolutely NO guy can possibly have any incentive to be with girls unless they want sex (in some form or another). They know this.
And the only way to get with a girl (past their primality/ hormonality) is to be a good showman. Which they can't be being themselves. Not even chad can be himself without faux pas-ing his relationship into an early grave.
Women know even chad isn't being himself .But they don't acre. "being yourself"/ "confidence" are just false detours of cause/ stipulation/ etc. that women emphasize. When in reality a lot of that is just a detraction away from the real criteria of love/ consideration/ care they really have. Which is pure primality/ superficial substance, with a low emphasis of morality/ dignity/ personal bearing.


True. Then again, lying yields very little results unless you pull catfishman tier lies literally pretending to be someone else

Back in my PUA days I dressed super well and pretended to be a DJ or club promoter when really I was a produce clerk making minimum wage. The Fake money/status offered no benefit in terms of getting numbers or setting up dates. You need atleast 6/10 looks to lie to women. As a sub 6 even lying won’t help you
 
True. Then again, lying yields very little results unless you pull catfishman tier lies literally pretending to be someone else

Back in my PUA days I dressed super well and pretended to be a DJ or club promoter when really I was a produce clerk making minimum wage. The Fake money/status offered no benefit in terms of getting numbers or setting up dates. You need atleast 6/10 looks to lie to women. As a sub 6 even lying won’t help you
Lying is just taking the substance that's shown (and women are superficial, and stipulate that clearly/ implicitly (some) that that is the main avenue by which attraction is acquired), and sprucing it with the best possible context behind it. But it needs to be believable. You can't say as a 6/10 that you were a former hollywood actor. You should say that you were a former guy who was a part of art/ music production, like you said, DJ, and that could rack up some primality value points (because those things take skill/ social knowhows/ dominance/ thug substance/ etc).

To add a bit on what I said preivously, the interpersonarchy (bond, immaterial value, commonality in personality) is 2nd to their superficiality/ desire for narcissistic predominance in a guy. But all that shit is taboo to their airs they wanna let on. They won't admit it because it would blow their cover as being nice/ loving/ gentle gender/ leftist ideology leaning girls. They don't want to have that happen. Nor are most girls conscious enough of their own identity (PAST THEIR GENETIC DEFENSE MECHANISM TO LIE/ SAVE FACE).
Most people can't admit themselves to others because the saving face defense mechanism is so automatic/ habit/ drilledin to the point of you never having a brutally honest conversation with women especially. WOmen are designed ot be sociopaths. They're not designed to have conviciton in the face of trauma/ unpopularity/ etc. they just want advantage.

Since women are wired to be hypergamic sociopaths then she wants someone with distinct, excpetional, unattainable dominance/ primal value like LMS (that outranks other people to be an exceptionality). Her novelty matters more to her than the chad/ whoever being HIMSELF. She'd rather have him be successful actually than be himself. If the chad is an autist, but he can be trained ot be presentable, then she will go at the chad. Since most women are vain she will pick that Chad over a guy who is charming/ loving/ sincere but maybe is like a 3/10.
Material wares/ substance value matters so much more to women.

Chad will faux-pas easily if he is not being something that is adjusted. Women know they're too temperamental/ hormonal/ bipolar to have men, even when being themselves, make a good/ sufficing impression without necessary improvising. To think that men are wired automatically to deal with women is a fallacy. Men cannot suit the wants of women, or the hormonal triggers of women without the chad calculating his identity. No one realistically can suit all the needs of women. This may sound like coping. But is it coping to say that no one is built for war without training for it? No, you have to have some ability to train/ pack yourself up by your bootstraps, adjusted, and fight.
Women are too complex/ a hassle for anyone to not have adjusted themselves for it, just like war.
Women are designed to be sociopathic pricks to our peace in life so that only the most war-adjusted can breed.
When she wants you to do the wrong thing, and when she wants you to do the right thing, and when this, when that, how this, how that, etc.
 
Check if you still have foreskin, if answer is yes then you were prepared before it ever begin.
 

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