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Discussion Is the sky the limit?

blond_elf_bard

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I think that throughout the American cultural sphere, there is a notion pushed viz. "you can be anything you want to be", "work hard enough at anything and you will attain it", and "the sky is the limit". Has anyone else noticed this?

I think such ideas may be harmful because we can only have so many doctors, lawyers, celebrities, superstars, etc., and so people may fall into despair once these external goals aren't met in cases (which, it's certain that not everyone will necessarily meet their grand goals.) When one hears of "success stories", they typically incorporate themes of
  1. Material wealth
  2. Intimacy
  3. Fame
  4. (Sometimes) a vindictive element against those who held the former underprivileged person back from achieving the same success he wielded against his oppressor.

If I had to come up with a name for this ideology, I suppose I would call it "Modern Prosperity Gospel". What would you call it? Modern espousers of the theory seem to be people like Oprah Winfrey, Tony Robbins, and Dave Ramsey (this last guy seems a little more down-to-earth, however.) For people who don't live in the United States, do you notice such an ideal in your own country?

What do you think contributes to such an ideal? Is this a marketing ploy to get people to spend money on college, motivation seminars, etc? A means of placating people from revolution by promising everyone grandiose dreams attained?

I thought I may be destined for some vague important contribution to the world, but perhaps I may have been falling for propaganda. For that matter, I don't think I'm a great person. I think the main sources for that idea's cultivation within the younger me would be the media, my family, and the school system.

Thoughts?
 
It's all bs. Happiness is everything. That is why we have nothing. There is no bigger truth to it than that. Celebreties and rich people get depressed and fail because they are not genuinely happy. The only thing is to happymaxx. Dont ask me how though
 
Let's get real: most of USA doesn't have minimal wage
 
All political systems need to propagate an idea like this to keep most of the population (who will never actually amount to much in their lives) active, relatively peaceful and motivated to contribute to the system.

It's the "American Dream" in the US, the promise of heaven in most religions, the futuristic visions of totalitarian ideologies. They all have to justify why the prevalent system is good as it is, and why you should work hard by observing the rules instead of conspiring to knock out the ruling elites from power.
 
HAHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

No
 
The day people realize happiness does not come from buying material things but from within our own mind, the economy will collapse and we all be smoking pot and dropping acid in hippie camps.
 
The day people realize happiness does not come from buying material things but from within our own mind, the economy will collapse and we all be smoking pot and dropping acid in hippie camps.
How does it come from within? What can I do to attain it?
 
How does it come from within? What can I do to attain it?
Depends on how much your happiness is dependent on materialistic things and the opinions of others.

Stuff i do to search for happiness from inside myself and not outside is:

-Lift weights or do any sport to boost your stamina and mental state (important: u don't do this to impress others.. only for yourself)
-Be yourself no matter what (Even if this means u becoming an outcast)
-Don't buy stuff to impress others but only because u like them.
-Minimalistic lifestyle only buy things u REALLY need.
-No car if it's possible.

The point is if u cant be happy without the approval or validation of others, that means u are dependent on them and being dependent on something is never a good thing.

I don't know what your age is but this is not easy if your still a teenager, it gets better as u get older and see through all the bullshit.
 
Depends on how much your happiness is dependent on materialistic things and the opinions of others.

Stuff i do to search for happiness from inside myself and not outside is:

-Lift weights or do any sport to boost your stamina and mental state (important: u don't do this to impress others.. only for yourself)
-Be yourself no matter what (Even if this means u becoming an outcast)
-Don't buy stuff to impress others but only because u like them.
-Minimalistic lifestyle only buy things u REALLY need.
-No car if it's possible.

The point is if u cant be happy without the approval or validation of others, that means u are dependent on them and being dependent on something is never a good thing.

I don't know what your age is but this is not easy if your still a teenager, it gets better as u get older and see through all the bullshit.
Based. I already dont give a shit about the opinions of others since they dont like me anyway. I dont live to impress anyone, not even myself because i know that im subhuman.
 
I think that throughout the American cultural sphere, there is a notion pushed viz. "you can be anything you want to be", "work hard enough at anything and you will attain it", and "the sky is the limit". Has anyone else noticed this?

I think such ideas may be harmful because we can only have so many doctors, lawyers, celebrities, superstars, etc., and so people may fall into despair once these external goals aren't met in cases (which, it's certain that not everyone will necessarily meet their grand goals.) When one hears of "success stories", they typically incorporate themes of
  1. Material wealth
  2. Intimacy
  3. Fame
  4. (Sometimes) a vindictive element against those who held the former underprivileged person back from achieving the same success he wielded against his oppressor.

If I had to come up with a name for this ideology, I suppose I would call it "Modern Prosperity Gospel". What would you call it? Modern espousers of the theory seem to be people like Oprah Winfrey, Tony Robbins, and Dave Ramsey (this last guy seems a little more down-to-earth, however.) For people who don't live in the United States, do you notice such an ideal in your own country?

What do you think contributes to such an ideal? Is this a marketing ploy to get people to spend money on college, motivation seminars, etc? A means of placating people from revolution by promising everyone grandiose dreams attained?

I thought I may be destined for some vague important contribution to the world, but perhaps I may have been falling for propaganda. For that matter, I don't think I'm a great person. I think the main sources for that idea's cultivation within the younger me would be the media, my family, and the school system.

Thoughts?
Dave ramsey became rich because he was able to leverage his parent’s influence in the real estate business to get mortgages that others wouldnt be able to, and then went bankrupt.
 
American (retards) worship money. The reality is, multiplying your income by 100x would only make you like 10% happier. Once you have enough to get by and supply basic copes, extra makes little difference
 

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