Serious Is the only best move to not care?

[plplp5]

A lot of MGTOW channels will say that when it comes to dating, relationships and marriage, the only winning move is to not play. The problem with that is that if you are MSTOW, you do not get to choose to not play as you were never considered part of the game to begin with. So knowing that this is the case, would the actual best option be to not care about foids or sex? I know that this makes me sound like a MGTOW (even though I am not), but is there really a better option that would land you into trouble or ruin your life?

I know that it is our biological imperative to have sex and procreate, and my hormones make me constantly crave for sex, so I just cope with porn since it is risk-free. I don't care if that makes me a loser according to blue/red pillars (or even to blackpillers in this forum), but I don't see a better alternative as a MSTOW. I don't even bother with looksmaxxing as it requires money (which I don't have) and effort (which does not matter since without the money it is futile). I also don't bother with escorts or sex dolls as they require money too.

 

[VanGobbel]

have you tried MLDARTOW?

 

[ColderManTruce]

have you tried MLDARTOW?

Tf is this

 

[Zaraj11]

I found MGTOW before anything and I liked the concept, but I also realized that I am MSTOW. I think it is a good approach, they say to give up on women and try to find meaning in something else.

 

[VanGobbel]

Tf is this

Men lying down and rotting their own way

 

[ColderManTruce]

Men lying down and rotting their own way

Based tbh

 

[ColderManTruce]

I found MGTOW before anything and I liked the concept, but I also realized that I am MSTOW. I think it is a good approach, they say to give up on women and try to find meaning in something else.

I'd advise you to find good copes to spend time in it

 

[plplp5]

have you tried MLDARTOW?

Not really as I do have some hobbies that I engage in regularly in order to cope from time to time. Instead of literally LDARing, I like to go outside on nature walks/hikes every once or twice a week. Other than that I like to read philosophy and watch free movies/live sports on pirated streaming sites. Unfortunately these are the only hobbies I can afford to do.

 

[VanGobbel]

Not really as I do have some hobbies that I engage in regularly in order to cope from time to time. Instead of literally LDARing, I like to go outside on nature walks/hikes every once or twice a week. Other than that I like to read philosophy and watch free movies/live sports on pirated streaming sites. Unfortunately these are the only hobbies I can afford to do.

 

[plplp5]

I found MGTOW before anything and I liked the concept, but I also realized that I am MSTOW. I think it is a good approach, they say to give up on women and try to find meaning in something else.

yep, i am pretty much in the same boat and agree with you 100%. The only problem is that while I can give up on women, I cannot give up my sexual attraction to women, which is why porn is a necessary cope in my life even if I engage in my other healthier hobbies.

 

[Chaos;BrutaLr2]

Yeah giving up is kind of the only solution. Better to keep yourself isolated then be reminded of your subhuman status 24/7. Porn isn't bad as long as your not crazy addicted (like everyday). I head when you get addicted to porn it fucks with your general motivation and mood, but idk.

 

[Zaraj11]

yep, i am pretty much in the same boat and agree with you 100%. The only problem is that while I can give up on women, I cannot give up my sexual attraction to women, which is why porn is a necessary cope in my life even if I engage in my other healthier hobbies.

I think we just have to wait a bit. There are already good sex dolls and there are AI chat bots, we just have to wait for someone to combine the two and we can have our robot girlfriends.

 

[Grodd]

Give up don't give up won't change the fact it's over.

 

[plplp5]

Give up don't give up won't change the fact it's over.

I would say that my post already acknowledges it's over. The real question is what are you or what am I gonna do about it knowing that it's over? Personally I have been trying out good/healthy ways to cope so that I can make my life a little less depressing.

 

[plplp5]

I think we just have to wait a bit. There are already good sex dolls and there are AI chat bots, we just have to wait for someone to combine the two and we can have our robot girlfriends.

True, the only problem is that it is most likely gonna cost a lot of money

 

[Bulbasaur]

You can stop giving a fuck to a degree, it's possible. Doesn't matter what you chose or didn't.

 

[plplp5]

Yeah giving up is kind of the only solution. Better to keep yourself isolated then be reminded of your subhuman status 24/7. Porn isn't bad as long as your not crazy addicted (like everyday). I head when you get addicted to porn it fucks with your general motivation and mood, but idk.

Yep, I fully understand the negative effects of porn, which is why I try to balance it out with healthier habits like hiking and reading.

 

[xek000000kk]

Not caring is also a good choice; what's the point of playing a game where players are automatically guaranteed to lose? I guess the Buddhist was right about the limitless nature of human desire; you'll always crave a 7/10 girl even if you already have a 6/10. The same logic applies to high or low-level cope. I think extreme stoicism and meditation will lead to liberation, but you'll probably need a large amount of stimulants to get through the initial phase. I'm trying this path...

 

[PolnischeKartoffel]

I'd like to not care about anything

Like my numerous failures

 

[xek000000kk]

I think we just have to wait a bit. There are already good sex dolls and there are AI chat bots, we just have to wait for someone to combine the two and we can have our robot girlfriends.

You'll quickly get bored with them, and you won't own them in any way. Top models are always paid APIs, and open source will take a very, very long time to catch up, and the cost of running them is considerable and prohibitively expensive. Paid APIs are also subject to censorship.

Even when open source reaches its sweet spot, you'll still quickly get bored with them. They are beautiful but soulless mirrors reflecting yourself; only humans possess souls, not even tulpas or imaginary worlds.

 

[Alvin31]

If you never tried you will regret when you became oldcel. At least you should try when you was young. The older you became the harder for you to get settled

 

[flute_snoop]

MSTOW

what does the s stand for?

 

[ImperialArk]

> using acronyms

 

[Enigmaz]

Yes, the best move is to not care. You have to live a life where you belittle foids instead of putting them on a pedestal like a cuck. Advocate for ai porn and the creation of robot sex dolls since that makes normies and foids seethe with anger and those creations are pro-incel.

 

[Yunoo]

The winning move is passportmaxxing

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

Yes, you should distance yourself from all that stuff more and more, otherwise it'll just eat you up inside. I'm over 36 now, and I don't give a damn what some stupid foid says or how much promiscuity Chad has committed. It's all worthless garbage. Luckily, I'm someone who generally copes well on my own, but that doesn't mean there aren't moments when it hurts. But it's not like it was ten or fifteen years ago.
The good thing is that certain urges subside significantly and one realizes how ridiculous this porn society we now live in actually is.

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

so I just cope with porn since it is risk-free.

Above all, you need to free yourself from it. Find out who's supplying you with porn and controlling the business. Recognize that it's a horrible drug that only makes everything worse. For years, I was heavily addicted to porn, but certain insights and God's Word gradually freed me. That doesn't mean I don't relapse sometimes, but those moments are becoming less and less frequent. The last time was in October, almost exactly three months ago. Since then, I've been tempted by evil spiritual forces a few times, but I've resisted (with divine help?). That feels like a victory and gives me confidence.