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Is teaching something an incel should do or avoid? (a little outburst)

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The only plausible careers for me at this point of my life are both teaching, one is getting a phd - which i think is highly unlikely due to my lack of confidence and competence in writing scientifically - in political science, which i have the undergraduate degree. The other option is teaching foreign languages in my country, since i pretty much learned english on my own before the internet being what it is today(early 00's) and i read most things in spanish and french too.

The first option would make me middle class but i'd wear out myself mentally and the other one would make me lower-middle class but with a secure boring job of repeating the same thing, alas in the first one i'd have to figure out different things every time i had to produce some paper.

This situation came to this partly because my father wasn't even a teacher when i was born, so he was still struggling with work while i was growing up and my mom was pretty much always a housewife which later kinda refused to divorce rape my father with choosing only to remain with her apartment which she had before marriage (she worked before that as a bank clerk). I had never got a job (i'm 25) for not attending anything besides school, because that wasn't needed the time my father was an young adult, so he didn't gave me any useful tips whein i turned 18. He still doesn't fucking know jack shit about declaring taxes to the IRS. But i digress.

These circunstances and the lack of any purpose or clear talent related to making some shekels made me trapped between these two options in this moment of my life. But i keep thinking, if i always postpone going to gym for not getting brutally mogged by normies face to face, how the fuck am i going to get used to teaching to people when i'm clearly getting uglier by the day? Even if i muster courage for some time and teach english and shit, it'll take a while to make enough money to surgerymaxx, besides the money for basics and superflous copes delaying my plans.

TLDR: Should incels avoid teaching at all costs? Should we punish chads/stacies and obnoxious fags while we are it? I want your 2 cents from y'all about teaching.
 
I think it is hard for an incel to get respect by his students if he is an incel, I get reminded of that time I watched a video from Japan of an incel teacher getting bullied by his chad students
 
Teaching is suifuel but would be lifefuel to youngcels. You’re sacrificing yourself but considering your job you can help incels a lot and spread the blackpill, as well as fuck over chads and stacies by being hard on them
 
I think it is hard for an incel to get respect by his students if he is an incel, I get reminded of that time I watched a video from Japan of an incel teacher getting bullied by his chad students
Sauce? I wanna get desensitized by watching this.
My father is used to teaching kids from the slums, but he is NT unlike me, although he really popped his cherry only when he met my mom.
 
@IsolationHurts thoughts?
 
Sauce? I wanna get desensitized by watching this.
My father is used to teaching kids from the slums, but he is NT unlike me, although he really popped his cherry only when he met my mom.
I watched it many years ago but I will search for it
 
I watched it many years ago but I will search for it
Thank you very much for your effort. I mean TEFL is more safe i think, since the classes are smaller and lasts less than a regular school/college/university 4 hour presentation. And if by chance i get good enough at japanese i'd teach a bunch of loser weebs whom i could blackpill the fuck outta them.
 
new generations are really shitty and will be loud depending on what school you go to, if your high inhib you might as well avoid it. If i wanted to become a teacher i'd want to be an primary school teacher
 
Avoid it, unless it’s teaching fellow incels
 
Thank you very much for your effort. I mean TEFL is more safe i think, since the classes are smaller and lasts less than a regular school/college/university 4 hour presentation. And if by chance i get good enough at japanese i'd teach a bunch of loser weebs whom i could blackpill the fuck outta them.
searched around a bit, couldn't find the video but I found a case where other teachers bullied a younger teacher, basically held the younger teacher down and forced him to eat spicy curry
 
Avoid. If you are a short ugly male you will get zero respect from students. Think of those videos where the students tell the teacher to shut the fuck up. Thats what the students all want to do and they all want to kill you
 
What other options i'd have?

Why do you think primary is better?
primary school kids are easier, highschool kids will be much rowdier whatever you do, dont show any implicit bias, also lots of incels as children dont devlop social skills because teachers dont allow uglier kids to speak as much, so you can ask uglier kids to speak and answer questions etc
 
@Atavistic Autist Thots?
 
I had a teacher at high school which was incel and he was also really feminine. I admin i took part of bullying this guy but it was more about his weakness than his looks (which honestly were just plain), he was really a whiny faggot.
 
What are your interests? Can you fullfill them without getting a PhD?
I've seen many lifelong learners of Physics and Mathematics who are not into academia. They have decent jobs and they fullfill their learning desires on their own. Nothing wrong with that. You should look forward a secure future.
Getting a PhD is tough and getting a teaching position is even more tough.
 
Those seem like horrible careers for an incel but you know you better than anyone else so..
 
I would be an elementary school teacher or a high school teacher but only for advanced students who are interested in the subject.
 
What are your interests? Can you fullfill them without getting a PhD?
Always had a thing for political theory, the classics, philosophers and the like. But i was never the guy who read a lot throughout life tbh. So at college i really got overwhelmed and figured that the amount of reading and writing practice from gathering and resuming all the things you read is too much for an autist and doing this while you don't agree with the authors that are obligatory in a certain area obligates you to think in certain ways to be accepted as scientific (this only happens in humanities and is not something said in the open ofc).

The ammount of different research areas that i had to go through only wore me off and made me lose the time i'd had learning to get the gist of writing research proposals, papers, articles, dissertations and thesis, because in my country there's not a standardized evaluation to neophytes in every class, so every teacher does it differently and most of them just do the same as a high school teacher would do, tests with questions to answer with your words rather than writing papers so you can practice writing properly and reading before it, and the one class that is supposed to teach that really sucks, the bitch only teached outdated logics which has almost nothing to do with the practicality of it.

Then towards the end of the course, after some time not deciding which research area i'd follow, i really thought about entering the quantitative research of statistics applied to elections and political culture/behaviour. Although i did better than most colleagues in my class, i still think i'm not cut for it, since i really got to learn only the basic of R studio but not enough to conduct adequate research and a few veterans were already establishing themselves in this area. I really struggle with intermediate level of theoretical statistics and R studio packages such as ggplot2, dplyr, tidyr. So i figured it's not worth the effort without any third-party help, even as i was planning to take a masters related to this area but not political science per se. After that i came up to the conclusion that it might be better to work as an foreign language teacher.

So if i had to research about what i love aside from researchng and just for leisure, i'd stick to developing a theory that states that political science is the best scientific subject for the purposes of Systems Theory from Ludwig von Bertalanffy. Then i'd research about conservative socialist Proudhon and his "disciples" and develop an economic-political framework that benefited incels without recurring to mandated wives, as that might cause uproar from females and other problems without solving the intimacy issue. And finally if i could master statistics a little better i could try working with someone from IT to develop some application that would run hypothesis tests around social media.

@MENSA_IQcel Thoughts on the thread and this comment?
 
Always had a thing for political theory, the classics, philosophers and the like. But i was never the guy who read a lot throughout life tbh. So at college i really got overwhelmed and figured that the amount of reading and writing practice from gathering and resuming all the things you read is too much for an autist and doing this while you don't agree with the authors that are obligatory in a certain area obligates you to think in certain ways to be accepted as scientific (this only happens in humanities and is not something said in the open ofc).

The ammount of different research areas that i had to go through only wore me off and made me lose the time i'd had learning to get the gist of writing research proposals, papers, articles, dissertations and thesis, because in my country there's not a standardized evaluation to neophytes in every class, so every teacher does it differently and most of them just do the same as a high school teacher would do, tests with questions to answer with your words rather than writing papers so you can practice writing properly and reading before it, and the one class that is supposed to teach that really sucks, the bitch only teached outdated logics which has almost nothing to do with the practicality of it.

Then towards the end of the course, after some time not deciding which research area i'd follow, i really thought about entering the quantitative research of statistics applied to elections and political culture/behaviour. Although i did better than most colleagues in my class, i still think i'm not cut for it, since i really got to learn only the basic of R studio but not enough to conduct adequate research and a few veterans were already establishing themselves in this area. I really struggle with intermediate level of theoretical statistics and R studio packages such as ggplot2, dplyr, tidyr. So i figured it's not worth the effort without any third-party help, even as i was planning to take a masters related to this area but not political science per se. After that i came up to the conclusion that it might be better to work as an foreign language teacher.

So if i had to research about what i love aside from researchng and just for leisure, i'd stick to developing a theory that states that political science is the best scientific subject for the purposes of Systems Theory from Ludwig von Bertalanffy. Then i'd research about conservative socialist Proudhon and his "disciples" and develop an economic-political framework that benefited incels without recurring to mandated wives, as that might cause uproar from females and other problems without solving the intimacy issue. And finally if i could master statistics a little better i could try working with someone from IT to develop some application that would run hypothesis tests around social media.

@MENSA_IQcel Thoughts on the thread and this comment?

Man I have absolutely no clue what you said there, no idea about political science.
But I think getting a Job in those fields is very tough.
If you think you can get a decent job than go for it.
 
Man I have absolutely no clue what you said there, no idea about political science.
But I think getting a Job in those fields is very tough.
If you think you can get a decent job than go for it.
I mean getting some money with teaching languages as a preparatory phase to go back to scientific career after putting your head in place seem like an good idea, and if that doesn't work, i'll stick to my future job teaching and that's it.
Man I have absolutely no clue what you said there, no idea about political science.
Not even the statistics part? Isn't it somewhere in the mathematics curriculum?
 
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Do you have a masters?
 
No. I want to but i don't think i'm capable, at least not now.

Apply to some schools. The worst that can happen is that they say no. See if you qualify for any government student grants or benefits.
 
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Apply to some schools. The worst that happen is that they say no. See if you qualify for any government student grants or benefits.
As i said in a prior comment, i can't even write a research proposal that falls into one of the accepted research lines of political science universities. Also the student grants and benefits for graduates are diminishing, since we have an anti-intellectual conservacuck running for president:
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I mean getting some money with teaching languages as a preparatory phase to go back to scientific career after putting your head in place seem like an good idea, and if that doesn't work, i'll stick to my future job teaching and that's it.

Not even the statistics part? Isn't it somewhere in the mathematics curriculum?
No man, that's more of the computational part of Statistics, I've never been into statistics. Took one course in Stats and Basic Probability Theory back in UG days.
My brain is simply not made for Statistics, Probability Theory, low dimensional topology/ knot theory. Those are my Achilles heel and I tend to stay far away from them.
 
Depends.

Primary school teaching is Meh.

Highschool teaching is the worst. Teens are annoying, and you'll have to deal with people like @rightfulcel getting BJs in class.

I'd recommend teaching at College or AP Level. Most students are mature at that age and the pay is quite good.
 
@Grothendieck

astudyofeverything is this your YT channel? is there something related to your area? just curious
how many languages do you speak btw
Fluent in english and portuguese, instrumental knowledge in spanish, french and japanese
 
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I think it is hard for an incel to get respect by his students if he is an incel, I get reminded of that time I watched a video from Japan of an incel teacher getting bullied by his chad students
Could I watch that video?
 
@Grothendieck

astudyofeverything is this your YT channel? is there something related to your area? just curious

Fluent in english and portuguese, instrumental knowledge in spanish, french and japanese
Lel no, I'm 20 years old. That channel is old as fuck. I just like that video on Andrew Wiles. I can "feel" his words.
 
@IsolationHurts thoughts?

Thanks man

Is teaching something an incel should do or avoid?
Short answer, you should avoid it if you can.

Long answer, well.... If i undertand this, youre telling me that you can get your PhD or start teaching languages. But i guess that once you get yout PhD, youre gonna have to teach anyway, so... I dont think you can avoid it. It thats the case, you are in the same situation i was when i was exactly your age. When i graduated i literally had no options: HS teacher or homeless.

In my country you can get a public job as a HS teacher if you pass one of the hardest tests ever... but its a test that doesnt require you to be good looking or be NT. Just to know the entire history of philosophy from the presocratics to the XX century philosophy lol. I got the job because i actually studied during college and after it. HS teachers are well paid here, the job is easy, just 20 hours per week of real classes.... Im glad that the only job i could get was at least a well paid one.

On the other hand, as an incel (I am ugly, short and suffer from aspergers) HS is pure and unadultered HELL. During my first year i almost go insane, and this second year was absolutely horrible. Your coworkers are as NT as it gets, political correctness is required at every level, you are going to watch the actual human jungle, where Chad and Stacy can do what they want without repercussions and incels get bullied just for breathing. Radical feminists telling the kids that males are inherently evil, that there are more than two genders, that genders are social constructs.... over and over and over. Your coworkers have gf/bf, or are married, or are married and have kids, and they never stop talking about them. Everyone wants to fuck the sports teacher, because he is gigaChad. You must do tons of paperwork. You dont really have free time after work because you must correct tests and prepare classes. You will have to talk to parents eventually and defend ideas and institutions that you disagree with. You will see Stacy and Chad slowly succeed in life in permanent tutorial mode, and help them succeed as an ugly and forgettable background NPC..... All those problems can be solved just by pretending you are a normie. I tried to ascend for years so i know how to pretend. Its hard, so i have to drink and smoke when im finally home.

The real problem is, obviously, the teaching itself. This carries two problems: the subject your teaching and the kids youre trying to pet. I like what i teach so idc about having to explain it over and over. Second, if you are like me (a fucking horrendous autist) you just cant make teens like you, its just impossible. Teens like charismatic Chads, not ugly virgins. I hate to explain things, and the government hates it also (left points of view of education) so i use a lot of films and YT videos during my classes.


Im going to quote myself lol

Its not that i dont try to have a personal approach to my students, trying to show why things are important in their historical context, and how easily we came across this problems and how noice it is to have a personal answer to these questions, etc. I would like to do it. Its just that i am too socially retarded. I dont understand my students at all. Also, i read and think what i want, and the mandatory curriculum is incoherent, shallow, absurd, false, boring and leans to the radical left in ever possible way. Its basically a lot of propaganda from the more powerful media agents in the grand geopolitical scheme of things (basically comunism). I just dont agree with what i teach, its wrong, retarded and dangerous. But, at the end, even if i recommend films and books, and try to teach from a more wide perspective, make them write and read the original sourves a lot, etc., all they want is as less work as possible and all i want is my salary.

So i just make things easy for everyone. For me, doing nothing but explain what that piece of propaganda we call text book is saying is easy, it requires no social interaction actually. Its like a representation in the theater. You pretend to be a teacher during the Stalinist era for some hours. Its easy. For them: Easy subject that only requires a bit of memorization. Even if literally you cant read and understand what you have just read (thus analphabet), you cant write a single sentence that makes sense in our language and cant follow any kind of human philosophical argumentation, if you memorize some absurd and false data about some philosophers you could not care less about, you pass my subject. Sad but true. Normies just dont care about philosophy. I would probably dont care if i was a normie, if i had my teen gf and my friends. But i never had, and thats why im socially retarded.

Also, most teen foids are... well... quite attractive. So you have to slowly learn to repress every kind of sexual tendency in yours. It might seem stupid, but even looking at jb´s can be extremely painful if you do it out of lust and also if you can do it as much as you want.... as an incel of course. You have to constantly interact with your unaccessible object of desire so you cant be constantly thinking about your lack of sex and intimacy. So, again... pretend that you are a normie until most people seem convinced that you are the average nerd that loves what he teaches and behaves robotically and asexually towards everybody. I have become almost asexual after two years of extreme sexual repression tbh. It affected me in every way, and i can say that i am more dead inside than two years ago.

I never tried to be a college professor because, at least in my country, you must be extremely NT and have massive social skills and tons of contacts to even try. And obviously, not look like an incel. Most new college professors in my faculty are young Stacies with no real knowledge of what they teach, while the old incel and socially awkward masters of philosophy are retiring. One of my professors was a well known politician and another was a foid model, im not even kidding. You dont really need to know anything to teach in college nowadays, just be a leftist extroverted Stacy or have friends in positions of power and the job is yours. So, leftism and foids ruined college in my country. I will get a PhD soon anyway, i read a lot and there are some subjects, like history of atheism, that i am probably the only expert in my country.

political science
I also got a completely useless degree after 5 years of intense study lol. Arts are a scam tbh.

Sorry for my bad english. I learned it by myself too lol
primary school kids are easier, highschool kids will be much rowdier whatever you do, dont show any implicit bias,
100% true. Kids dont disrespect you every chance they have, teens do.
So if i had to research about what i love aside from researchng and just for leisure, i'd stick to developing a theory that states that political science is the best scientific subject for the purposes of Systems Theory from Ludwig von Bertalanffy. Then i'd research about conservative socialist Proudhon and his "disciples" and develop an economic-political framework that benefited incels without recurring to mandated wives, as that might cause uproar from females and other problems without solving the intimacy issue. And finally if i could master statistics a little better i could try working with someone from IT to develop some application that would run hypothesis tests around social media.

That definetly sounds like something you will absolutely never be paid to do. I am going to write something too (about atheism, phenomenology and philosophy of religion in general), but i know i need a job to mantain myself during the years of reading and writing... Also, i need the money to cope, not just to survive. You will never spread your ideas through academical means. As a HS teacher i dont have to publish anything, and if i want to publish something i will do it in secondary magazines specialized in my concrete subject.
Im not saying its impossible, im just saying that, from my experience, becoming a college professor as an incel is as hard as ascending.

System theories are awesome btw. I would definetly read you lol
 
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Always had a thing for political theory, the classics, philosophers and the like. But i was never the guy who read a lot throughout life tbh. So at college i really got overwhelmed and figured that the amount of reading and writing practice from gathering and resuming all the things you read is too much for an autist and doing this while you don't agree with the authors that are obligatory in a certain area obligates you to think in certain ways to be accepted as scientific (this only happens in humanities and is not something said in the open ofc).

The ammount of different research areas that i had to go through only wore me off and made me lose the time i'd had learning to get the gist of writing research proposals, papers, articles, dissertations and thesis, because in my country there's not a standardized evaluation to neophytes in every class, so every teacher does it differently and most of them just do the same as a high school teacher would do, tests with questions to answer with your words rather than writing papers so you can practice writing properly and reading before it, and the one class that is supposed to teach that really sucks, the bitch only teached outdated logics which has almost nothing to do with the practicality of it.

Then towards the end of the course, after some time not deciding which research area i'd follow, i really thought about entering the quantitative research of statistics applied to elections and political culture/behaviour. Although i did better than most colleagues in my class, i still think i'm not cut for it, since i really got to learn only the basic of R studio but not enough to conduct adequate research and a few veterans were already establishing themselves in this area. I really struggle with intermediate level of theoretical statistics and R studio packages such as ggplot2, dplyr, tidyr. So i figured it's not worth the effort without any third-party help, even as i was planning to take a masters related to this area but not political science per se. After that i came up to the conclusion that it might be better to work as an foreign language teacher.

So if i had to research about what i love aside from researchng and just for leisure, i'd stick to developing a theory that states that political science is the best scientific subject for the purposes of Systems Theory from Ludwig von Bertalanffy. Then i'd research about conservative socialist Proudhon and his "disciples" and develop an economic-political framework that benefited incels without recurring to mandated wives, as that might cause uproar from females and other problems without solving the intimacy issue. And finally if i could master statistics a little better i could try working with someone from IT to develop some application that would run hypothesis tests around social media.

@MENSA_IQcel Thoughts on the thread and this comment?

It's absolutely based to study something for practical reasons and then study related topics of interest in your free time. I don't really have many specific thoughts on your thread since it is mainly just talking about personal experience.
 

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