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Tails made this video about discrimination and starts with JBWpills, but then goes on to make the claim that racial homophily is actually stronger than JBW.
View: https://youtu.be/7do0CG9Z4SI
Some important points from the video:
At first I thought that this was major copium but then I started thinking more and more about his videos. I started looking around when I was outside and started asking people around me.
1. On Blacks in the Netherlands.
Let me first start with being Black in the Netherlands, statistically we are seen as the least attractive people in the country and get the least "likes" on dating apps, but thinking about it this might be because we're both genetically and physiologically the most distant compared to any non-African race. So it would make sense why Black men are universally regarded as "ugly" more so than any other race. Incel TV notes that Black toilets are far more likely to respond to White and Mulatto men than to Black men, but I've seen how Black men message on dating apps, they send the most low IQ stupid messages and only a Tyrone could actually get away with that. Yet despite this the rates of interracial marriages between Blacks and Non-Blacks remains quite low, even in the USA. In countries like Argentina and Brazil this was almost forced through government programmes to try and "make White" the population with fresh European immigrants.
So how big of a disadvantage are Black men really at? Am I a failure because I simply aren't attracted to Black toilets? Maybe.
Looking at my mother's past relationships, she either dated tall White Chad's and Chadlite's (like my father and a later 6'8 White Chadlite who statusmaxxed and was the owner of the company where she worked), she told me that she rejected a statusmaxxed Japanese wealthcoper. Yet when I look at Black men her standards are waaaaayyyyyy lower, her last boyfriend (Gambian, who even made her pregnant) is like 4'9~4'10, before that she dated a Black Angolan who was shorter than her, had a shit personality, and wasn't particularly good looking. None of her White ex'es could afford any of this. She literally had to go Refugeemaxxing to find Black men as we live in a super White region where you rarely see Blacks.
My sister exclusively dated White men, all significantly taller than me, and all either lean or muscular (despite her being a giga-landwhale). To be fair, a Mulatta isn't Black so I probably shouldn't include mixed race people here (more on that later).
2. On Asians and JBW.
Now, the strongest argument for JBW we always seen is the open fetishisation of White men by Asian toilets. There is no shortage of "I love tall White men" TikTok's made by Asian toilets in the incelosphere.
View: https://youtu.be/g4CEb_dRC8s
But earlier I addressed the likely false nature of a lot of those Tinder matches (Asia is absolutely full of scammers, second only to Africa) and then there are the statistics on WMAF. While writing this I am literally looking at an elder WMAF couple outside with a 6'6 White man wearing a pink shirt and an elderly Noodlewhore, she even looks in love at him showcasing her fetish. As I wrote before "JBW doesn't have an expiration date" but then again I want to address the opposite of this, rather I want to dissect the idea of the strength of JBW in Western societies.
For example, more Asian American toilets cohabitate with White American men than with Asian American men and more than half of them do. We have to look at several data points before just blindly accepting this.
For one, Asians don't really come to countries in massive waves as refugees, the last time this happened was the Indochina refugee crisis after the fall of South Vietnam when Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laotian refugees fled all over the world with half going to the USA, many also went to France, West Germany, and the Netherlands. Refugees in general tend to date within their race, I've met many older South Vietnamese refugees in the Netherlands and they almost all exclusively date not just within their own race but within their own ethnicity (Kinh with Kinh, Hoa with Hoa, Miao with Miao).
Then we have other immigrants, one thing I noticed in my environment is that there are a lot of multigenerational Chinese families that remain fully Chinese for multiple generations, some having come here since the 1950's.
So who are the most WMAF couples? If I'd guess I'd say first generation immigrants, as in White incels that actively traveled to the Far East to take a Gook bride. A lot of new Asian immigrants come here through migration, like how most new Turks and Moroccans come here through migration using family reunion, often men (and sometimes toilets) marrying someone from their ancestral homelands and taking them here.
Another common, yet overlooked, statistic is adoptees. A lot of White couples adopted Asian children, these children grew up in almost exclusively White environments and rarely met others of their own race. In a documentary about South Koreans being adopted in the USA I read that 4/5 Asian men from such families had a White wife, so only around 20% or so had an own-race preference for Asian toilets.
Yes, that Asian model Incels often use is also an example of an Asian being adopted by White parents, but has any follow-up been made about that? Does he have a girlfriend now? This is what I could find on Kevin Kreidler, apparently he dated multiple toilets in the past:
"In one of the posts, Kevin revealed he was not interested in dating Asian women. He was also not fond of dating apps because there was inherent discrimination of people by just looking at a profile and not even getting to know them. But on the former aspect, the actor has come around because Kevin has learned to love and respect his culture and heritage."
Yes, dating apps are harder for Asian men, but in real life he had a lot less trouble finding a White toilet.
Most elderly Eurasians I know in the Netherlands are often the product of Javanese (Indonesian) and Chinese fathers with White toilets as at the time many Chinese and Javanese men immigrated to the Netherlands and not that many toilets.
When I went out yesterday I saw a lot of Asian-Asian couples, even if the men were short and bald Asian toilets were more likely to pick them over White men.
When a half-Chinese half-Moroccan man entered a Foot Locker last year I overheard a Moroccan man jokingly shouting "You should not exist!!!" About his ethnicity because those races rarely mix. But why? It's because single Dutch-Moroccan men go to Morocco to find a wife and White men tend to go to China to find a wife.
Fetishism.
I think that Asian female Europhiles are probably as common as White male Asiaphiles, but I don't think that they form a majority in either culture and a lot of my White Asiaphile friends have been called "weird" and "creepy" for their fetish, I wouldn't be surprised if a similar reaction existed among Noodlewhores.
A lot of Asian toilets that immigrate to the West are toilets specially migrating there to marry a White man, White men go to the Far East to look for brides.
One can just as easily look at Slavmaxxing Ricebrothers and Curries and claim "JBA" (Just be Asian) and "JBC" (Just be Curry), likewise curry male White female couples are quite common in the Netherlands because during the 1970's a massive amount of Curries migrated from South America here.
The more I think about it, the more I realise that Tails is right. JBW has power, but it isn't nearly the juggernaut many non-White incels think it is.
It is easy to point to the loud and proud Noodlewhores that love White dick but we could literally do the same with White men that love Asian pussy and say "there's an Asian fetish epidemic", in fact that is something Asian men literally were doing in the early 2000's online and it's something that I've seen Black and Native American toilets complain about "White men love Asians more than us".
In fact when I told a White toilet that I went toiletfishing on Tinder with an Asian toilet friend's pictures she complained about not getting as many matches and said that Asian toilets are simply more desirable. This MAY be true, but I think that this is simply selection bias.
I'm a man with an Asian fetish but very few of my friends have an outright preference for Asian toilets, those that do are either Asian or Gookmaxxers.
The more I think about it, the less powerful the JBWpill seems and the more powerful the Homophilypill seems.
View: https://youtu.be/7do0CG9Z4SI
Some important points from the video:
At first I thought that this was major copium but then I started thinking more and more about his videos. I started looking around when I was outside and started asking people around me.
1. On Blacks in the Netherlands.
Let me first start with being Black in the Netherlands, statistically we are seen as the least attractive people in the country and get the least "likes" on dating apps, but thinking about it this might be because we're both genetically and physiologically the most distant compared to any non-African race. So it would make sense why Black men are universally regarded as "ugly" more so than any other race. Incel TV notes that Black toilets are far more likely to respond to White and Mulatto men than to Black men, but I've seen how Black men message on dating apps, they send the most low IQ stupid messages and only a Tyrone could actually get away with that. Yet despite this the rates of interracial marriages between Blacks and Non-Blacks remains quite low, even in the USA. In countries like Argentina and Brazil this was almost forced through government programmes to try and "make White" the population with fresh European immigrants.
So how big of a disadvantage are Black men really at? Am I a failure because I simply aren't attracted to Black toilets? Maybe.
Looking at my mother's past relationships, she either dated tall White Chad's and Chadlite's (like my father and a later 6'8 White Chadlite who statusmaxxed and was the owner of the company where she worked), she told me that she rejected a statusmaxxed Japanese wealthcoper. Yet when I look at Black men her standards are waaaaayyyyyy lower, her last boyfriend (Gambian, who even made her pregnant) is like 4'9~4'10, before that she dated a Black Angolan who was shorter than her, had a shit personality, and wasn't particularly good looking. None of her White ex'es could afford any of this. She literally had to go Refugeemaxxing to find Black men as we live in a super White region where you rarely see Blacks.
My sister exclusively dated White men, all significantly taller than me, and all either lean or muscular (despite her being a giga-landwhale). To be fair, a Mulatta isn't Black so I probably shouldn't include mixed race people here (more on that later).
2. On Asians and JBW.
Now, the strongest argument for JBW we always seen is the open fetishisation of White men by Asian toilets. There is no shortage of "I love tall White men" TikTok's made by Asian toilets in the incelosphere.
View: https://youtu.be/g4CEb_dRC8s
But earlier I addressed the likely false nature of a lot of those Tinder matches (Asia is absolutely full of scammers, second only to Africa) and then there are the statistics on WMAF. While writing this I am literally looking at an elder WMAF couple outside with a 6'6 White man wearing a pink shirt and an elderly Noodlewhore, she even looks in love at him showcasing her fetish. As I wrote before "JBW doesn't have an expiration date" but then again I want to address the opposite of this, rather I want to dissect the idea of the strength of JBW in Western societies.
For example, more Asian American toilets cohabitate with White American men than with Asian American men and more than half of them do. We have to look at several data points before just blindly accepting this.
For one, Asians don't really come to countries in massive waves as refugees, the last time this happened was the Indochina refugee crisis after the fall of South Vietnam when Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laotian refugees fled all over the world with half going to the USA, many also went to France, West Germany, and the Netherlands. Refugees in general tend to date within their race, I've met many older South Vietnamese refugees in the Netherlands and they almost all exclusively date not just within their own race but within their own ethnicity (Kinh with Kinh, Hoa with Hoa, Miao with Miao).
Then we have other immigrants, one thing I noticed in my environment is that there are a lot of multigenerational Chinese families that remain fully Chinese for multiple generations, some having come here since the 1950's.
So who are the most WMAF couples? If I'd guess I'd say first generation immigrants, as in White incels that actively traveled to the Far East to take a Gook bride. A lot of new Asian immigrants come here through migration, like how most new Turks and Moroccans come here through migration using family reunion, often men (and sometimes toilets) marrying someone from their ancestral homelands and taking them here.
Another common, yet overlooked, statistic is adoptees. A lot of White couples adopted Asian children, these children grew up in almost exclusively White environments and rarely met others of their own race. In a documentary about South Koreans being adopted in the USA I read that 4/5 Asian men from such families had a White wife, so only around 20% or so had an own-race preference for Asian toilets.
Yes, that Asian model Incels often use is also an example of an Asian being adopted by White parents, but has any follow-up been made about that? Does he have a girlfriend now? This is what I could find on Kevin Kreidler, apparently he dated multiple toilets in the past:
"In one of the posts, Kevin revealed he was not interested in dating Asian women. He was also not fond of dating apps because there was inherent discrimination of people by just looking at a profile and not even getting to know them. But on the former aspect, the actor has come around because Kevin has learned to love and respect his culture and heritage."
Yes, dating apps are harder for Asian men, but in real life he had a lot less trouble finding a White toilet.
Most elderly Eurasians I know in the Netherlands are often the product of Javanese (Indonesian) and Chinese fathers with White toilets as at the time many Chinese and Javanese men immigrated to the Netherlands and not that many toilets.
When I went out yesterday I saw a lot of Asian-Asian couples, even if the men were short and bald Asian toilets were more likely to pick them over White men.
When a half-Chinese half-Moroccan man entered a Foot Locker last year I overheard a Moroccan man jokingly shouting "You should not exist!!!" About his ethnicity because those races rarely mix. But why? It's because single Dutch-Moroccan men go to Morocco to find a wife and White men tend to go to China to find a wife.
Fetishism.
I think that Asian female Europhiles are probably as common as White male Asiaphiles, but I don't think that they form a majority in either culture and a lot of my White Asiaphile friends have been called "weird" and "creepy" for their fetish, I wouldn't be surprised if a similar reaction existed among Noodlewhores.
A lot of Asian toilets that immigrate to the West are toilets specially migrating there to marry a White man, White men go to the Far East to look for brides.
One can just as easily look at Slavmaxxing Ricebrothers and Curries and claim "JBA" (Just be Asian) and "JBC" (Just be Curry), likewise curry male White female couples are quite common in the Netherlands because during the 1970's a massive amount of Curries migrated from South America here.
The more I think about it, the more I realise that Tails is right. JBW has power, but it isn't nearly the juggernaut many non-White incels think it is.
It is easy to point to the loud and proud Noodlewhores that love White dick but we could literally do the same with White men that love Asian pussy and say "there's an Asian fetish epidemic", in fact that is something Asian men literally were doing in the early 2000's online and it's something that I've seen Black and Native American toilets complain about "White men love Asians more than us".
In fact when I told a White toilet that I went toiletfishing on Tinder with an Asian toilet friend's pictures she complained about not getting as many matches and said that Asian toilets are simply more desirable. This MAY be true, but I think that this is simply selection bias.
I'm a man with an Asian fetish but very few of my friends have an outright preference for Asian toilets, those that do are either Asian or Gookmaxxers.
The more I think about it, the less powerful the JBWpill seems and the more powerful the Homophilypill seems.