Discussion Is recognition servile (slavish)?

[go2sleep]

By "slavish" I am obviously alluding to Nietzsche's master vs. slave morality distinction. And "recognition" simply means seeing yourself (humanity) or putting yourself in someone else's shoes; "compassion" is a special case of recognition. And also please answer how do you think (most) women view this issue.

Edit: If it's unclear,

I don't think putting myself in someone else's shoes is servile by itself.
You put yourself in someone else's shoes to understand them, what you do with that understanding is where you see the difference between master and slave.
If you use the understanding to feel sorry for them and help them, you have a slave morality.
But if you use it to simply understand their way of thinking and their future actions then you can still have a master morality. Understanding someone you exploit simply makes it easier to exploit them.

it is the "slavish" meaning of "recognition" here I was getting at.

 

[Linesnap99]

I think its about mutual respect and honour.

 

[InceldianWarrior]

I don't think putting myself in someone else's shoes is servile by itself.
You put yourself in someone else's shoes to understand them, what you do with that understanding is where you see the difference between master and slave.
If you use the understanding to feel sorry for them and help them, you have a slave morality.
But if you use it to simply understand their way of thinking and their future actions then you can still have a master morality. Understanding someone you exploit simply makes it easier to exploit them.

how do you think (most) women view this issue.

If you mean how women view Nietzsche's philosophy, they don't.
In general I don't think women can put themselves in someone else's shoes. They can try to imagine how they would feel if they were in the same position, but they can't understand different mindsets than theirs.
Most of their "compassion" is just virtue signalling.

 

[go2sleep]

I think its about mutual respect and honour.

How do you have 20k posts on here

 

[go2sleep]

I don't think putting myself in someone else's shoes is servile by itself.
You put yourself in someone else's shoes to understand them, what you do with that understanding is where you see the difference between master and slave.
If you use the understanding to feel sorry for them and help them, you have a slave morality.
But if you use it to simply understand their way of thinking and their future actions then you can still have a master morality. Understanding someone you exploit simply makes it easier to exploit them.

Yep, the slave morality meaning is what I was getting at.

 

[go2sleep]

If you mean how women view Nietzsche's philosophy, they don't.
In general I don't think women can put themselves in someone else's shoes. They can try to imagine how they would feel if they were in the same position, but they can't understand different mindsets than theirs.
Most of their "compassion" is just virtue signalling.

Agreed.

 

[Arabcel99]

I think its about mutual respect and honour.

 

[go2sleep]

@Arabcel99 You must be insane as well. WHY THE HECK YOU THINK SO?