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Do you believe that Hitler's rise to power was an accident or was Germany doomed to Nazism?
Anything was better than the Khzarian pedo regime the Weimar Republic had going onDo you believe that Hitler's rise to power was an accident or was Germany doomed to Nazism?
Anything was better than the Khzarian pedo regime the Weimar Republic had going on
I think National Socialism is a default government for any self respecting country that doesn't want to become a corporately owned (((((multi))))) national hellhole
Prior to Nazi Germany, in a period known as the Weimar Republic, queer people lived openly in a society that allowed LGBTQ+ spaces to exist to such an extent that Berlin was considered the queer capital of the world. In these spaces queer people found freedom, community, and joy living openly as their authentic selves.
The first homosexual movement thrived in Germany from the late nineteenth century until 1933
I don't think so. Germany was pushed to this extremism because of many factors:
1. The disrespect to their culture and traditions.
Jewish minorities in the weimar Republic had previously in the first world war betrayed the Germans, which many Germans believed to have been the reason they lost the war.
Stab-in-the-back myth - Wikipedia
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The Jewish traitors later would change the culture. Allowing transgender crazies and gays to roam. Cuckoldry. The belittling of men. Women supremacy was boosted by these jews too.
Transgender people in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia
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In schools images of german notables were discarded before the students eyes. Fueling their frustration.
View: https://youtu.be/IbIaCd4PqR0?si=sTuPRpPEAuTKvRU5
He talks about this
2. Bad economy.
The reason our world has not yet fallen into disarray like weimar did is because our economy isn't as messed up. Weimar fell and extremism rose mostly because people could no longer afford their basic needs.
3. Lack of identity.
The Germans got humiliated and mocked globally. This also happened in their own country. The French deployed sub Africans in west Germany. The French marched into Germany whenever they didn't like something. German identity and sovereignty was disrespected all the time. The younger people grew angry and birthed nazism.
Horst Wessel - Wikipedia
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Hitlers rise was only natural because he respected all these traditions. This moment is what cemented Hitler as an icon in the german eyes.
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This image has lots of symbolic meaning. Hitler is bowing and showing respect to a disrespected culture, tradition and people.
I understood, but I studied the Sonderweg a lot, that is, the direction of historical thought that Germany was doomed to Nazism from the very beginning due to certain factors.
Lutheranism, Prussian militarism, the absence of the bourgeois revolution, which collapsed in 1848.
View: https://youtu.be/ZfJvXGnPqGI?si=TSq6QXoV7FD53LHY
I've always been torn between two versions, both of which have a lot of advantages. Was Nazism by nature Austrian or Prussian?NS itself predates WW1 and has its roots in German ethnonationalist laborism in Austria-Hungary:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Workers'_Party_(Austria-Hungary)
On the one hand, Nazism appeared in Austria as a way to protect German ethnic identity in a multinational empire where there were many Hungarians, Slavs (Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Croats, Slovenes, Serbs) as well as Italians and even Romanians.And even its creator was from Austria, who emigrated because he did not want to serve in the Austro-Hungarian army and hated the Habsburgs and their empire, preferring the mono-ethnic German empire of the Hohenzollerns.On the other hand, the NSDAP received the greatest support in the elections in the Prussian regions.NS itself predates WW1 and has its roots in German ethnonationalist laborism in Austria-Hungary:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Workers'_Party_(Austria-Hungary)
I don't think it can be applied to an ethnicity.I've always been torn between two versions, both of which have a lot of advantages. Was Nazism by nature Austrian or Prussian?
Yes, I studied different types of movements of the third way: but it was Germans version who was the most effective. Italian fascism was inherently harmless and herbivorous, posing no threat to anyone. The other movements of the third way were very disastrous. The Croatian Ustashi were the rulers of the puppet independent state of Croatia.I don't think it can be applied to an ethnicity.
Nazism is the answer to years of oppression. Its natural. Hitler was from Austria Hungary. It was very 'diverse'. He saw how damaging this lack of ethnic unity was.
Hitler considered himself a german. An ethnicity that was looked down upon.
The foundations for national socialism is a rebellious one. It goes against what was at the time the norm. It was the logical solution to a broken europe. A lot of different people came to the same conclusion. Croatians, Albanians and some slavs. (Example)
Good question. I have no answer. The Germans as an ethnicity are known for their ingenuity. Many ideas and movements were birthed in Germany.Yes, I studied different types of movements of the third way: but it was Germans version who was the most effective. Italian fascism was inherently harmless and herbivorous, posing no threat to anyone. The other movements of the third way were very disastrous. The Croatian Ustashi were the rulers of the puppet independent state of Croatia.
Finnish fascists of the Lapua movement were arrested and imprisoned.
The Spanish phalanx was completely harmless and operated inside Spain.
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I could make an educated guess. The Germans quickly rebuild back as a superpower.Good question. I have no answer. The Germans as an ethnicity are known for their ingenuity. Many ideas and movements were birthed in Germany.
As to why Nazism was more effective vs fascism I have no idea
Yes, it's hard to keep in mind, but the Germans fought for 4 years against three empires: the British, Soviet and American.I could make an educated guess. The Germans quickly rebuild back as a superpower.
Italy was never that. Italy was recovering from the first world war and had outdated equipment. Italy was reliant on Germany. Their failed Balkan campaign shows this.
The german economy was strong. The Germans were a strong people who took control of most of Europe. Maybe this is why nazism was more effective because the people who created it ended up being very dominant for many years.
Germans before the war broke out had a halo effect too. Hitler was considered a genius before the war. This adds another fuel for the tank.
Italy had great ideas too. Such as Mediterraneanism. But because Italy was a weak state, overshadowed by Germany. They weren't able to convince anyone their ideas were any good and so couldn't enforce them.
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It doesn't help fascism that Mussolini caved to Hitlers demands. Making hitlers nazism unspokenly superior in the eyes of the public.
The Germans never gave up and died fighting. This will leave a permanent impression on the people too. Hitler never surrendered.Yes, it's hard to keep in mind, but the Germans fought for 4 years against three empires: the British, Soviet and American.
On the one hand, ten million Red Army soldiers are against them, on the other hand, huge American factories are against them, which can produce thousands of tanks in month.The Germans never gave up and died fighting. This will leave a permanent impression on the people too. Hitler never surrendered.
They almost won despite being largely outnumbered. They are worthy of respect.
Everyone loves an underdog.On the one hand, ten million Red Army soldiers are against them, on the other hand, huge American factories are against them, which can produce thousands of tanks in month.
Yes, the potential of German national Socialism was enormous. The strongest army of the Second World War, the best military technology, the best military minds. The whole of Europe was either conquered by the Germans or was neutral or friendly, with the exception of Great Britain. Even the scientific breakthrough was impressive, for example, the first jet missiles in military affairs, which is why the USSR and the USA stole German scientists and German developments.No, apart from the jew hating part National Socialism is found in many different places from Arab Ba'ath Movements to Indian National Congress and what not, although the binding principle was Socialism and a connection based on ethnic or some other lines, it's opposite of Marxist International Socialism aka Communism, even not all European National Socialist movements were anti Semitic
Do you believe that Hitler's rise to power was an accident or was Germany doomed to Nazism