Discussion Is It Possible for a Woman to Force a Man to Penetrate Her and Does This Count As Rape?

[lonelysince2006]

This is assuming that the female "rapist" is stronger than you or is able to overpower you easily, so the Why can't you just push her off/punch her...? argument doesn't apply here.

How does a man being forced to penetrate a woman possible if the man is erect in the first place? Since erection is a sign of arousal, isn't this an unspoken, subconscious act of consent? I would never fathom having sex with an unattractive woman, so it's not possible for me to get an erection if she tries to force herself on me. At least that's what I think.

The only way I see a man being raped is through anal penetration, whether that be with an implement or digitally (with the use of fingers). The other way that a man can get "raped" (I consider this to be sexual imposition rather than full-blown rape) is if he is touched in the groin/back area without his consent or someone makes multiple unsolicited sexual advances and continues to do so even after the victim expresses their disinterest.

Edit: This is discounting the influence of drugs.

Also, let me elaborate: If there is no arousal when she forces herself on you, I would still consider that sexual imposition. However, once you are aroused, that is consent and I wouldn't consider it rape.

@FrothySolutions

 

[Fallout]

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[lonelysince2006]

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Can you provide any counterarguments?

 

[incel god]

any incel would love if a fine looking woman raped him. just imagine her giving you a handjob while she is wearing black leather gloves?

 

[lonelysince2006]

any incel would love if a fine looking woman raped him. just imagine her giving you a handjob while she is wearing black leather gloves?

I don't want to be sexually fondled by a hideous woman. Imagine if she was a burn victim or something.

Also, you expressing arousal at this situation contradicts it being "rape."

 

[failednormie_]

I don't want to be sexually fondled by a hideous woman. Imagine if she was a burn victim or something.

Also, you expressing arousal at this situation contradicts it being "rape."

OK But I can still cum in a burn victim. Im as far right as you get and I agree that men cant be raped lmao. only 10 years old and under

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Yes, it is rape. You can be erect even while unconscious, so that isn’t saying much. No one will say a woman wasn’t raped if her pussy got wet as a result.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Even if she didn't force you to penetrate, it's still rape. Technically. I say this as a man who wished a woman wanted him that badly. Technically it's still rape, but it's nice to be wanted.

 

[frmentalcel]

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[incel god]

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[Repulsive123]

I can even coom totally limp, just takes a lot more exertion but when you coom you kind of tense up and get hard for an instance so she'd just keep forcing it till you coom. She could even use viagra if she cant get your hard. Its probably easier for the foid to drug you, force down viagra and get to fucking in video game

 

[Fallout]

Can you provide any counterarguments?

making posts about rape is glowie/infiltrator behavior

 

[lonelysince2006]

Yes, it is rape. You can be erect even while unconscious, so that isn’t saying much. No one will say a woman wasn’t raped if her pussy got wet as a result.

But that's when you're unconscious and your responses are involuntary (could also be the result of a wet dream depending on the nature of your "unconsciousness"). What if you're totally conscious and become erect? What's your excuse then?

Even if she didn't force you to penetrate, it's still rape. Technically. I say this as a man who wished a woman wanted him that badly. Technically it's still rape, but it's nice to be wanted.

Definitions of rape:

According to Wikipedia:

Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent.

According to Merriam-Webster:

unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception

According to Cambridge:

to force someone to have sex when they are unwilling, using violence or threatening behaviour

All of these major definitions categorize rape as including penetration. They all define it as forced sexual intercourse. What you're describing is completely different. Sure, it's under the umbrella of sexual assault (indecent contact or "imposition"), but you can't call it "rape."

Edit: Sorry, meant "all."

I can even coom totally limp, just takes a lot more exertion but when you coom you kind of tense up and get hard for an instance so she'd just keep forcing it till you coom. She could even use viagra if she cant get your hard. Its probably easier for the foid to drug you, force down viagra and get to fucking in video game

You can't ejaculate more than once in a row in a short period after you've already ejaculated. Most men need a "cooldown" period that lasts 15 mins to days.

Refractory period (sex) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

most men cannot achieve or maintain an erection during this time

Also, I already said drugs don't count, so having viagra in your system or being intoxicated DOES count as rape imo.

making posts about rape is glowie/infiltrator behavior

It's called Inceldom "Discussion" for a reason.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Differentiating between "rape" and "sexual assault" is like differentiating between "pedophile" and "ephebophile." The only difference is how many blows to the head you get for committing the crime. I didn't know this was a thread about pedantic semantics.

 

[lonelysince2006]

Differentiating between "rape" and "sexual assault" is like differentiating between "pedophile" and "ephebophile." The only difference is how many blows to the head you get for committing the crime. I didn't know this was a thread about pedantic semantics.

Yeah, well, I don't like when people say "men can be raped" because that implies some sort of penetration, which doesn't include the man being forced to penetrate the woman, as I outlined before. That sort of contact would constitute sexual assault but not rape. I guess you're right; it is a semantics thread if you think about it.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Yeah, well, I don't like when people say "men can be raped" because that implies some sort of penetration, which doesn't include the man being forced to penetrate the woman, as I outlined before. That sort of contact would constitute sexual assault but not rape. I guess you're right; it is a semantics thread if you think about it.

Why do you actually not like it? I don't think your dislike of it is about semantics.

 

[lonelysince2006]

Why do you actually not like it? I don't think your dislike of it is about semantics.

As I said, saying "a man got raped" conjures up images of prison rape and not a dude being tied down to a bed BDSM-style and given a drug cocktail so a cooky woman can impregnate herself or whatever rationale women have for wanting to "rape" men.

 

[FrothySolutions]

As I said, saying "a man got raped" conjures up images of prison rape and not a dude being tied down to a bed BDSM-style and given a drug cocktail so a cooky woman can impregnate herself or whatever rationale women have for wanting to "rape" men.

Both acts are equally heinous.

 

[Eurasian]

I think this was useless

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

Maybe if she's 400 pounds and threatens to crush a 5'2" manlet to death if he doesn't fuck her.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Since erection is a sign of arousal, isn't this an unspoken, subconscious act of consent?

Consent is generally understood to be explicitly stated consent in such cases I reckon. How else would "animals can't consent" make sense?

I would never fathom having sex with an unattractive woman, so it's not possible for me to get an erection if she tries to force herself on me.

If she strokes your member enough, you'll probably get an erection whether you like it or not.

 

[SociallyStupid]

Also, let me elaborate: If there is no arousal when she forces herself on you, I would still consider that sexual imposition. However, once you are aroused, that is consent and I wouldn't consider it rape.

No, arousal doesn't mean consent. We, as humans, have higher-level brain functions which allow us to make meaningful decisions even in spite of lower-level functions telling us otherwise. For example, I would never want to sleep with someone who has HIV even though this person could be the most beautiful and otherwise best person possible. As that would also be imperceptible, my lower-level functions would not have any way to distinguish her HIV-infected vag from a clean vag and thus be just as aroused.

 

[NotTheElliot]

Yes, it is rape whenever one person can't consent.

 

[caineturbat2003]

yes, rape is rape no matter what foids are trying to tell you

 

[anandkonda]

I would never want to sleep with someone who has HIV

If it was a stacey I would.

 

[SociallyStupid]

If it was a stacey I would.

Really? Maybe completely fuck up your life for sex once? But well, your decision, but I think you can see how people might think otherwise.

 

[anandkonda]

Really? Maybe completely fuck up your life for sex once? But well, your decision, but I think you can see how people might think otherwise.

Only if its a very tall russian or polish foid, that thing would be to die for. I am that desperate, my life is suffering anyway

 

[Evangelioncel]

It's rape but in my opinion it's borderline impossible to happen unless you got drugged or something.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Don't give ideas to feminists

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Yup, you just need to ask and you will find some who will admit that they've done that.

Insane female-on-male rape figures in a European study

Jfl. Check this shit out brocels, because feminists and bluepillers sure as fuck won't. In this 2013 study, the researchers looked at the self-reported sexual offending and victimization of male and female students in 10 (well, 9 really, for some reason no women participated in the Austrian...

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"Approximately 17% of heterosexual women have sexually coerced a man sometime during their lifetime."

An Examination of Sexual Coercion Perpetrated by Women This study surveys studies which measured female perpetration. The authors found 32 such studies, predominantly, but not entirely, heterosexual, with a cumulative sample of 22,632 women and calculated weighted means with the results of...

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Only if its a very tall russian or polish foid, that thing would be to die for. I am that desperate, my life is suffering anyway

Well, according to that study I posted above, Polish foids sure seem to be doing their best and going all out in this area. Polish guys self report coercing someone into sex using physical strength more, but in everything else, their female counterparts have them beat.