Discussion is it actually possible for heterosexual men to be misogynist or heterosexual women to be misandrist? Also etymology of hypergamy w/ hypo/amory too !

[Sheogorath]

Can you actually hate 100% of the opposite sex and still prefer them sexually?

I don't think it's actually possible. I mean yeah, you can be attracted to women and still hate individual women (or even vast amounts of women)...

Hell you can even hate a particular woman and still be attracted to her and want to fuck her. IE the classic "hatefuck" meme.

But... I would argue that WHY you hate her is not because she is a woman, but because of some other reason like her personality/behavior. IE you are being an egalitarian.

A guy hatefucking a woman happens in spite of hating some aspect of who they are because you like that they are a woman, or maybe you hate just half their personality and love the other half of their personality.

The only way I can fathom someone being a true misogynistic male is if they were a homosexual.

The only fathomable truly misandric female is a lesbian.

Even if you view a gender as subhuman, rank your own gender as more important in many respects, I don't think you can actively hate that gender itself and yet for some reason have a sexual preference for it.

Our sexual preference for women is proof of our inherent love for them, it prevents universal hatred for the gender. If we have any mass hatred towards foids it has nothing to do with their gender, and everything to do with the memes too many have adopted (ie culture) which are divisible from their inherent nature, which we still love and want to be with in spite of our distaste towards many of their disgusting mannerisms.

That is not to say we love every aspect of what is female. Hypergamy seems pretty inherrant, and you don't have to love that. But there is definitely more to foids than hypergamy, so you clearly love those other aspects (why you want to fuck them) and so you don't have 100% of what is femaleness.

Plus really... I think we have mixed feelings about hypergamy. It is frustrating, yes, but I think deep down we have a begrudging respect for it too. IE we don't want women to be ubersluts which fuck everything because then she would have no standards at all. If women were HYPOgamous, we'd get our dicks wet in them, but so would every other guy, and it would be non-idealized, coping, depressing...

A very SLIGHT amount of hypergamy is actually a good thing: wanting to be with someone slightly better than yourself... because men ARE slightly better than women on average already, so being with your match would be inherently hypergamous. The problem is more like excess hypergamy ... HYPERhypergamy...

Actually... why do we use the suffix -gamy at all. Isn't monogamy/polygamy about marriage?

In line with the alternate "monoamory" / "polyamory" terms, shouldn't we be calling this hyperamory / hypoamory?

 

[Hate_my_life]

Can you actually hate 100% of the opposite sex and still prefer them sexually?

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[BrendioEEE]

Look man...i'm gonna be entirely honest with you...I didn't read your post, and I don't think I ever will, but I wish you good luck and hope you get many replies.

 

[Hate_my_life]

The only way I can fathom someone being a true misogynistic male is if they were a homosexual.

Disregard.

No I do not hate women, I just hate their behaviour.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Yes I do.

Dont we all? I dont think anyone here doesnt not hate women.

 

[Hate_my_life]

Dont we all? I dont think anyone here doesnt not hate women.

I hate women, but OP attributes that to being a homosexual which I'd kill myself if I was, so now I'm lost.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

I hate women, but OP attributes that to being a homosexual which I'd kill myself if I was, so now I'm lost.

What kind of retarded logic is that LMAO. I'm lost here too

 

[Sheogorath]

No I do not hate women, I just hate their behaviour.

I think besides hating the behavior aspect, we also hate the meme aspects preceding/underlying them, but those are mere components of who they are as people and not necessarily an invisibible part of their nature.

I think deep down, foids' hypergamy can be harnessable as a force for self-improvement if they are raised right, if they aren't corrupted by the wrong memes. The problem is that they are, so it's out-of-control hypergamy which makes men unfulfilled (or give up entirely) instead of fulfilling them and pushing them to provide stable futures for their children, like it used to.

Part of that is the reality-pill of them fucking the milkman though, so it was a cucked reality for a long while as society became less isolated and cheating became easier for women.

I hate women, but OP attributes that to being a homosexual which I'd kill myself if I was, so now I'm lost.

No, you've misread the post.

Hating women does not mean you hate them BECAUSE they are women.

I for example, can hate a guy who is short, but that doesn't mean I hate a guy BECAUSE he is short.

Misogyny is not merely "you hate a woman" or even "you hate all women", but rather "you hate all women BECAUSE they are women".

If all women engaged in a weekly practice of stomping a kitten to death, I could hate all women for being kitten-stompers. Even though that results in me hating all women, it would not make me a misogynist, because I am hating an adopted practice of kitten-stomping which is not an indivisible part of foid nature in this scenario.

Do you understand?

I'm lost here too

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