Discussion Is it actually impossible to blackpill a bluepilled NT normie?

[Vendetta_]

everytime i try to blackpill a normie they say "oh but thats negative and bad" "maybe if u stopped calling women foids u would get women" "ur an incel because ur blackpilled" even when i provide them with research,graphs,tons of videos and images that prove the BP they still deny it, they want to stay in their bubble so badly what is there to do

 

[Caichan]

Yes, they need real world experience to actually get it.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I think people can only be blackpilled through their own experiences. You have to learn the hard way.

 

[Roastie Crusher]

"Changing someone's mind is almost never about evidence.
It's about making a new prediction model feel safer/more predictable than the old one — and that's driven by emotion, social proof, authority, repetition, and identity, not logic."

 

[Sir Silentium]

I think people can only be blackpilled through their own experiences.

 

[Last2025cel]

everytime i try to blackpill a normie they say "oh but thats negative and bad" "maybe if u stopped calling women foids u would get women" "ur an incel because ur blackpilled" even when i provide them with research,graphs,tons of videos and images that prove the BP they still deny it, they want to stay in their bubble so badly what is there to do

Only if they have first hand experience of it

 

[DutchNDcel]

Why would they? You have to be in a really bad place to accept the blackpill and not become extremely bitter and demotivated.

 

[arkaxfoidletslayer]

why bother

 

[Hoodpreet]

More or less yeah. And if they do accept it it’ll be in some bastardized gynocentric form like what Clav pushes

 

[EcstasyCel]

Theres so many turbo-normie Blackpill influencers now. Who fucking cares man it's always gonna be watERed down for them.

 

[Domery]

Do

It's impossible. It's like trying to tell a young person they won't be young forever. They could understand the words you're saying, but they don't actually embody it until reality hits them like a truck.

Don't say that, i want to be young forever

 

[Erenincel]

I think you're approaching this the wrong way. For anyone to change their mind, they first have to doubt their previous one. If you try to immediately introduce someone to the Blackpill, their brain will defend itself and rationalize its view to maintain commonality. First, you need to challenge their previous views. First, you simply tell them something they agree with while simultaneously challenging the Bluepill. And you do this until they start asking questions and seeking answers on their own. Only then should you introduce them to the Blackpill.

"Changing someone's mind is almost never about evidence.
It's about making a new prediction model feel safer/more predictable than the old one — and that's driven by emotion, social proof, authority, repetition, and identity, not logic."

as the previous one said, the new model of the world must seem more real than the previous one.

 

[Erenincel]

I think people can only be blackpilled through their own experiences. You have to learn the hard way.

I don't think so, but it requires awareness. It's easier to believe a beautiful lie than an ugly truth.

 

[Shitskin=Shitlife]

They have to experience the blackpill themselves. There is no other way. Inceldom or nearceldom with brutal rejections is the only way. Normies CANNOT understand the blackpill beyond a surface level.

 

[SupremeSaint]

I don't think so, but it requires awareness. It's easier to believe a beautiful lie than an ugly truth.

 

[The Death Devil]

Not entirely, but you can make pretty good progress. It really just depends on how open the person is to having their mind changed which, for NPCs, almost never goes beyond some surface-level ideals. I once had a length conversation with a normgroid about the black-pill and he ended up generally agreeing with me by the end of it, but he still refused to believe AWALT.

Even still, I've seen that exact thing happen before—you get a normturd to accept the black-pill to some degree, but then they just end up pushing back on it later down the line and it becomes more red-pilled, if even that. It's a sad thing, really.