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Experiment Is it a good thing for the blackpill to go mainstream?

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I have been wondering whether or not it would be good if everyone knew about the blackpill. I feel that it might be a good thing since all the soys would stop and join here. Foids would also stop being worshipped and might even lose their rights.

But it could be a bad thing as well. Although soys would be on our side, other people like normies would hate ugly people even more and see that they are better than us and bully us even more.

What do you think? Is it a good thing for the blackpill to become mainstream?
 
If every man truly swallowed the blackpill, society would completely collapse because men would realize there is no point
 
No. Look what happen when the redpill became mainstream. Normies only used the information in the redpill to justify why bullying weak ugly males is the natural order of things and is the reality that those ugly males have to live with.

Normies don't suffer as much as incels from the blackpill so they'll take a lot of the concepts in the blackpill to even more justify why to look down on and mock weak ugly males even if those males never did anything to them.
Normies will also water down blackpill concepts and refuse to apply the unflattering realities equally to women so that the blackpill becomes a lot more gynocentric like the redpill became.

Spreading the blackpill to normies is cucked. The blackpill is meant for low status unattractive males.
 
If every man truly swallowed the blackpill, society would completely collapse because men would realize there is no point
True. Nobody would care enough anymore
No. Look what happen when the redpill became mainstream. Normies only used the information in the redpill to justify why bullying weak ugly males is the natural order of things and is the reality that those ugly males have to live with.

Normies don't suffer as much as incels from the blackpill so they'll take a lot of the concepts in the blackpill to even more justify why to look down on and mock weak ugly males even if those males never did anything to them.
Normies will also water down blackpill concepts and refuse to apply the unflattering realities equally to women so that the blackpill becomes a lot more gynocentric like the redpill became.

Spreading the blackpill to normies is cucked. The blackpill is meant for low status unattractive males.
Does this mean that normies are naturally cucked even if they are blackpilled? For the most part it seems that it is only good for ugly men to be blackpilled. But it also seems that it would make more sense for society to stop worshipping foids as the blackpill also states that they are whores for chads and will screw normies over even if they don’t have it as bad as incels.
 
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Idk honestly there are so many low value men I think overall it would be good even if some foids and chads would billy us a bit more. At this point the masses of low tier men need to wake up. @Personalityinkwell
 
tough to say, as @your personality says the blackpill might get watered down and what not.
 
Yes provided that it's men like us---incelibates seeking the truth for why they've been treated the way they have in life. There's no merit in Chad getting blackpilled... This will enable Chad to even further exploit his position, as he will realize that he can even get more than he currently has.
 
Does this mean that normies are naturally cucked even if they are blackpilled? For the most part it seems that it is only good for ugly men to be blackpilled. But it also seems that it would make more sense for society to stop worshipping foids as the blackpill also states that they are whores for chads and will screw normies over even if they don’t have it as bad as incels.
Yes normies at least in western countries are predisposed to valuing women over men. Yeah it's only good for ugly men to be blackpilled so that they can minimize being taken advantage of, bullied and used as an unwilling example by others that are trying to unfairly and dishonestly reduce them to second class citizens.

Too many normies hold the delusional view that no matter what in the situation of a man versus a woman it's the man's fault, that while women may not be as introspective as men the most introspective of women is still worthy of more praise than the most introspective of men and that women are only as good as the men are.
They also think they are better than other guys and can out alpha the system and that any man that got taken advantage of by women or society is a loser that desrves their fate. MRAs and mgtows have discussed this problem too and why it seems even most men are reluctant to hold women completely accountable and not make excuses for them through conspiracies, rationalizing it as how males aren't as manly as they used to be and whatnot.
 
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One of the reasons why the blackpill is so great is because no one knows about it, the vast majority of people are totally oblivious to it, yet it was the answer that I was looking for my whole life.
 
tough to say, as @your personality says the blackpill might get watered down and what not.
This is also what I am thinking. Some parts of it could get ignored. The only good thing is that people will stop allowing themselves to get scammed.
Yes normies at least in western countries are predisposed to valuing women over men. Yeah it's only good for ugly men to be blackpilled so that they can minimize being taken advantage of, bullied and used as an unwilling example by others that are trying to unfairly and dishonestly reduce them to second class citizens.

Too many normies hold the delusional view that no matter what in the situation of a man versus a woman it's the man's fault, that while women may not be as introspective as men the most introspective of women is still worthy of more praise than the most introspective of men and that women are only as good as the men are.
They also think they are better than other guys and can out alpha the system. MRAs and mgtows have discussed this too.
I always thought normies acted like this because of the bluepill. I am doubting they would still worship foids but I do agree that they will think they are chads and see other guys who are lower tier to be inferior to them. Because they haven’t faced much hardship they won’t see themselves as the underdogs.
Yes provided that it's men like us---incelibates seeking the truth for why they've been treated the way they have in life. There's no merit in Chad getting blackpilled... This will enable Chad to even further exploit his position, as he will realize that he can even get more than he currently has.
I feel that it could also apply for normies that also have sex but not as much as chads. They will also exploit their positions as they can have more than incels.
 
I always thought normies acted like this because of the bluepill. I am doubting they would still worship foids but I do agree that they will think they are chads and see other guys who are lower tier to be inferior to them. Because they haven’t faced much hardship they won’t see themselves as the underdogs.
No you can see it from how they talk about people here and how they look down on them for getting used by and mistreated by women as if it's our fault. They regard themselves as better than such men and don't think it can happen to them.
It's not so much a question of normies being bluepilled. Plenty of "redpilled" normies act like this too.
It's a normie trait. They laugh at the misfortune of others while knowing they could be at risk of suffering a similar misfortune, but dismiss this anyway because they are confident it won't happen to them.
 
No you can see it from how they talk about people here and how they look down on them for getting used by and mistreated by women as if it's our fault. They regard themselves as better than such men and don't think it can happen to them.
It's not so much a question of normies being bluepilled. Plenty of "redpilled" normies act like this too.
It's a normie trait. They laugh at the misfortune of others while knowing they could be at risk of suffering a similar misfortune, but dismiss this anyway because they are confident it won't happen to them.
The groups of people I believe it will be beneficial for getting blackpilled are incel tier men, nearcels, and failed normies. What percentage of the male population are these groups part of? If it is a pretty significant amount like 40% then there would have to be some sort of compromise since society won’t be able to sustain itself if 40% of men drop out of society. As for the current “redpilled” normies, I am not sure they are redpilled at all. I feel like they are just bluepilled people who just want to be edgy.
 
I think it is less a question of good or bad and rather one of inevitability. I don’t think good is even possible without a completely new collective consciousness forming throughout our culture, but such a change can never occur in the current framework. I’m order for something new to arise, the current system must lose legitimacy. The blackpill is the most potent ideology I’ve ever encountered for delegitimization of established belief power structures.

This says nothing about wether what arises in the wake of the black pills destruction will be good or bad though.

The problem with thequestion is that it assumes humans have a choice in maintaining whatever power structures they currently find themselves in.

We cannot contain the blackpill.
We did not find the blackpill.
The blackpill found us and it will find the normies if it’s destined to.
 
The groups of people I believe it will be beneficial for getting blackpilled are incel tier men, nearcels, and failed normies. What percentage of the male population are these groups part of? If it is a pretty significant amount like 40% then there would have to be some sort of compromise since society won’t be able to sustain itself if 40% of men drop out of society. As for the current “redpilled” normies, I am not sure they are redpilled at all. I feel like they are just bluepilled people who just want to be edgy.
I can't estimate nor do I want to. I see a lot of media trying to ascertain the number of people in those categories and it shows me that they are obsessed with trying to tally just as many as are there.
Some unknowns about who exactly these males are is helpful in a time of data driven censorship and surveillance that has been used to stifle any possible discussion among low status males.

The males that it is beneficial for them getting blackpilled based on their circumstance has already happened.
You see in with incels, failed normies, mgtow and NEET males.

The current "redpilled" normies are just edgy tradcucks tbhngl

The problem previous generations of men made is that they didn't take women seriously when they showed hatred and a need to use them to boost their own status and make jokes at the expense of them because "it's their turn now".
Those men instead acted amused, played it off, pretended that at the end of the day they were the boss and that women don't really know what they were doing.
They were in denial of how much women hate and have no regard for most men and kept being overly productive to impress women and keep their standing up in society.

Males of this generation have largely figured it out even if they aren't blackpilled. Engaging in a rat race with other males to self improve needlessly while women reap the benefits in a one sided zero sum game has become unpopular and is considered cucked among many males if it is shown to be done overtly enough.
Males that want to live but minimize their contributions to society need to LDAR and not necessarily go on self improvement journeys if they don't feel like it, males that want to keep their tax money from being redistributed to women need to get out of western countries, males should not engage with or believe the media is being sincere when it brings up the issues facing males today.
Males should not believe that some other force (jews, illuminati, big government, incels in power that want to turn men against women (I've actually heard this jfl)) is largely responsible for why women hate most men and think that the solution is to do more for women in return for less like feminists and society are telling them to.
They should realize that no matter what they do most women will hate and look down on most men and it's women that actually have mastered the completely disinterested dgaf attitude toward men, not men toward women like PUAs suggest in a changing sexual marketplace.
Being indifferent to women? Forget it, women are already completely indifferent to the struggles of most men and barely spend any time thinking about it unless to make themselves feel better of how good they have it.
Forget about caring about being a manly man in the way society wants you to to protect women and children. Women were freed from their roles a long time ago but insist on keeping men in theirs and that men still act like they are providers and protectors even though women largely abandoned them as soon as they got the chance.
 
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@Edmund_Kemper thoughts?
 
You can't blackpill a normie. If your winning at the game, you don't typically care how it works or why it DOESN'T work for others. The analogy I often use if trying to explain to lebron james why he is so good at jumping based on his anatomoy, biology, physics, w/e. None of that matters to him. The point is he is good and he is winning. Blackpill knowledge does not benefit normies. From their perspective it sounds like spiteful untruth.
 
I can't estimate nor do I want to. I see a lot of media trying to ascertain the number of people in those categories and it shows me that they are obsessed with trying to tally just as many as are there.
Some unknowns about who exactly these males are is helpful in a time of data driven censorship and surveillance that has been used to stifle any possible discussion among low status males.

The males that it is beneficial for them getting blackpilled based on their circumstance has already happened.
You see in with incels, failed normies, mgtow and NEET males.

The current "redpilled" normies are just edgy tradcucks tbhngl

The problem previous generations of men made is that they didn't take women seriously when they showed hatred and a need to use them to boost their own status and make jokes at the expense of them because "it's their turn now".
Those men instead acted amused, played it off, pretended that at the end of the day they were the boss and that women don't really know what they were doing.
They were in denial of how much women hate and have no regard for most men and kept being overly productive to impress women and keep their standing up in society.

Males of this generation have largely figured it out even if they aren't blackpilled. Engaging in a rat race with other males to self improve needlessly while women reap the benefits in a one sided zero sum game has become unpopular and is considered cucked among many males if it is shown to be done overtly enough.
Males that want to live but minimize their contributions to society need to LDAR and not necessarily go on self improvement journeys if they don't feel like it, males that want to keep their tax money from being redistributed to women need to get out of western countries, males should not engage with or believe the media is being sincere when it brings up the issues facing males today.
Males should not believe that some other force (jews, illuminati, big government, incels in power that want to turn men against women (I've actually heard this jfl)) is largely responsible for why women hate most men and think that the solution is to do more for women in return for less like feminists and society are telling them to.
They should realize that no matter what they do most women will hate and look down on most men and it's women that actually have mastered the completely disinterested dgaf attitude toward men, not men toward women.
Forget about caring about being a manly man in the way society wants you to to protect women and children. Women were freed from their roles a long time ago but insist on keeping men in theirs.
I don’t think all of the people for whom it would be beneficial are blackpilled yet. There are many incels in denial that worship foids and hate people who criticize foids. It would be beneficial if they got blackpilled. And yeah many men who try too hard get called a simp. Foids manipulate men into thinking they are oppressed but in reality are worshipped. Foids want the advantages of “equality” but reject the disadvantages.
I think it is less a question of good or bad and rather one of inevitability. I don’t think good is even possible without a completely new collective consciousness forming throughout our culture, but such a change can never occur in the current framework. I’m order for something new to arise, the current system must lose legitimacy. The blackpill is the most potent ideology I’ve ever encountered for delegitimization of established belief power structures.

This says nothing about wether what arises in the wake of the black pills destruction will be good or bad though.

The problem with thequestion is that it assumes humans have a choice in maintaining whatever power structures they currently find themselves in.

We cannot contain the blackpill.
We did not find the blackpill.
The blackpill found us and it will find the normies if it’s destined to.
When we were blackpilled we started seeing things a different way. Maybe this is because of the hardships we faced in life. But because we are blackpilled we can easily point out the hypocrisy in society. I am not sure if it will be a good thing or not but things will change
You can't blackpill a normie. If your winning at the game, you don't typically care how it works or why it DOESN'T work for others. The analogy I often use if trying to explain to lebron james why he is so good at jumping based on his anatomoy, biology, physics, w/e. None of that matters to him. The point is he is good and he is winning. Blackpill knowledge does not benefit normies. From their perspective it sounds like spiteful untruth.
This would only work if we were talking about chads. They wouldn’t care about the blackpill since they are already successful sexually. As for normies, they are not necessarily winning the game but they aren’t losing either. But if normies were blackpilled they would most likely exploit their position above incels and just bully incels more.
 
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I don’t think all of the people for whom it would be beneficial are blackpilled yet. There are many incels in denial that worship foids and hate people who criticize foids. It would be beneficial if they got blackpilled. And yeah many men who try too hard get called a simp. Foids manipulate men into thinking they are oppressed but in reality are worshipped. Foids want the advantages of “equality” but reject the disadvantages.
Foids don't even have to manipulate men into thinking they are oppressed. For guys that privilege foids over other guys it is more about ego and looking like a strong upstanding man to society.

And with the guys that aren't blackpilled: you can't rush things. If forced on them instead of them finding it on their own they are likely to recant when they see something that doesn't exactly fit with what they were told about. An example of this would be them mistaking the fake politeness of normies and foids as them being nice "and not as bad as those people online said".
 
Foids don't even have to manipulate men into thinking they are oppressed. For guys that privilege foids over other guys it is more about ego and looking like a strong upstanding person to society.

And with the guys that aren't blackpilled: you can't rush things. If forced on them instead of them finding it on their own they are likely to recant when they see something that doesn't exactly fit with what they were told about. An example of this would be them mistaking the fake politeness of normies and foids as them being nice "and not as bad as those people online said".
I feel like most just privilege foids because they think personality matters and it will help them have sex. And this is assuming that all the people get blackpilled normally. It wasn’t forced on them. Most people who first heat about the blackpill will reject as they will see the false politeness as something real.
 
I feel like most just privilege foids because they think personality matters and it will help them have sex. And this is assuming that all the people get blackpilled normally. It wasn’t forced on them. Most people who first heat about the blackpill will reject as they will see the false politeness as something real.
No there's plenty of guys that make fun of soyboys and effeminate males but still privilege foids.

What I'm also saying is that people who find out the blackpill on their own as opposed to having it forced on them will be less likely to see things like false politeness from normies as something real. It's the edgy temporarily depressed normie guy that over exaggerates their current lack of success with women but latches on readily to the blackpill and just as quickly dismisses it as soon as he gets more "luck" that is the most prone to accepting the blackpill when it's forced on them tbhngl

Imo the guys that search for the blackpill and find it on their own are more genuine in principles and not as easily swayed by fake politeness or outreach from normies and anti-incel groups from what I've observed.
 
No there's plenty of guys that make fun of soyboys and effeminate males but still privilege foids.

What I'm also saying is that people who find out the blackpill on their own as opposed to having it forced on them will be less likely to see things like false politeness from normies as something real. It's the edgy temporarily depressed normie guy that over exaggerates their current lack of success with women but latches on readily to the blackpill and just as quickly dismisses it as soon as he gets more "luck" that is the most prone to accepting the blackpill when it's forced on them tbhngl

Imo the guys that search for the blackpill and find it on their own are more genuine in principles and not as easily swayed by fake politeness or outreach from normies and anti-incel groups from what I've observed.
That’s true. You would have to find out about it on your own free will. But there is a lot of evidence to back it up. Anyone who reads the evidence should know that it is true.
 
Women stop getting free shit when men realize no matter what they do, women still aren't attracted to them.
This means women need to start working harder in life.
They can't do it so they need to start dating the men they once rejected

Balance of power restored
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I have been wondering whether or not it would be good if everyone knew about the blackpill. I feel that it might be a good thing since all the soys would stop and join here. Foids would also stop being worshipped and might even lose their rights.

But it could be a bad thing as well. Although soys would be on our side, other people like normies would hate ugly people even more and see that they are better than us and bully us even more.

What do you think? Is it a good thing for the blackpill to become mainstream?
Koreans are very Blackpilled. yet the bullying only amped up. so I agree with @your personality regarding this issue.
 
Koreans are very Blackpilled. yet the bullying only amped up. so I agree with @your personality regarding this issue.
Unfortunately it looks like only ugly guys who get blackpilled will benefit us. I just hope that there are enough to cause some sort of compromise.
 
I mean, what do we have to lose?
 

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