Serious Is insecurity a turn off to a hot girl? if you're a hot guy?

[Pinpoint]

I would say maybe depending on if you're hot because of shit that you've done about insecurity or not.
If it's natural vs produced. Women want loungy laidbackers to win at life. THe more you come off like a guy who has had to try the more pathetic and fleeting you are as a man.

 

[jerrycan dan]

You might think yes but in practice no or very little, look at tinder experiments of hot guys up-front telling girls about their insecurities, the women try to empathise with them instead of try to avoid them. Insecurity is a product of being less than hot and the cause is what's really doing SMV damage.

 

[HueHueBr]

insecurity arises through various rejections of the opposite sex. After being rejected over and over again, you will become insecure, and this will only increase the number of rejections. And it is only rejected at all times who is ugly, low and with other characteristics that alienate women.

 

[TheGambler2]

It is a turn off IMO.My mom keeps mentioning how disguisting it is when manlets try to hide their height/compensate for it,or she hates men with beards because they seem insecure.

 

[Pinpoint]

You might think yes but in practice no or very little, look at tinder experiments of hot guys up-front telling girls about their insecurities, the women try to empathise with them instead of try to avoid them. Insecurity is a product of being less than hot and the cause is what's really doing SMV damage.

well halo > one's inner characteristics. she just hopes his high anxiety won't interfere with the things his halo is implying (like dominance, power, advantage with his good looks).
Women think it can probably be an advantage (I'm not talking about beta-boy toying), if the guy is super compensatory. but only if he is hot and has a lot of traits that are non-changeable and in the distinct/ superior positive.

insecurity arises through various rejections of the opposite sex. After being rejected over and over again, you will become insecure, and this will only increase the number of rejections. And it is only rejected at all times who is ugly, low and with other characteristics that alienate women.

in terms of social shit then yes.
ppl can still be insecure baout hteir ability to do well in school .that has not hing to do with socializing realy, just one example. center of gravity/ underlying basis for insecurity is just feeling that something is not ready. that makes fear in most cases. raaaarely does it create excitement. depends on the person.

 

[oldcel75]

Why would chad will have insecurities in the first place? He was worshiped all his life by his surroundings. But if he does, it's a minor thing. Foids will forgive everything for chads cock.

 

[starystulejarz]

Why would chad will have insecurities in the first place? He was worshiped all his life by his surroundings. But if he does, it's a minor thing. Foids will forgive everything for chads cock.

He could be fat while growing up, got bullied and got insecure maybe even with mental illnesses and when he lost his weight in his adult years but scars are still in his mind.

 

[PEETER]

He could be fat while growing up, got bullied and got insecure maybe even with mental illnesses and when he lost his weight in his adult years but scars are still in his mind.

Yeah people think chads are some aliens and not humans like us. There're many reason to be insecure about. I've met a chad that was insecure about his looks lol.

 

[よっこま]

If you're hot and tall it doesn't matter how you act, that's not what foids are going for.

 

[The Abyss]

You have to try hard but look like you're uninterested & cruise controlling through life.

It is a turn off IMO.My mom keeps mentioning how disguisting it is when manlets try to hide their height/compensate for it,or she hates men with beards because they seem insecure.

Your mother sounds like a cuuuuuunt.

 

[Reprobus]

She probably thinks it’s cute and doesn’t care

 

[Hate_my_life]

insecurity arises through various rejections of the opposite sex. After being rejected over and over again, you will become insecure, and this will only increase the number of rejections. And it is only rejected at all times who is ugly, low and with other characteristics that alienate women.

This.

Chads don't experience this, hence they don't have insecurities. Any Chad this shy or something:

(From braincels)

 

[Deleted member 5333]

there are always some foid waiting in line for chad

 

[Deleted member 17599]

If you're Chad, insecurities doesn't matter.

 

[seija]

Why would chad will have insecurities in the first place? He was worshiped all his life by his surroundings. But if he does, it's a minor thing. Foids will forgive everything for chads cock.

 

[exe]

I bet it’s a turn on cause a Stacy will perceive him as an easy catch as long as his looks are adequate.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

No, women want to care for Chad and his insecurities.

 

[FrameCell]

Chads can break all the rules of being alpha.. game.. and traits that are suppose to make you "a man".

My chad friend cried it tears when his stacy left him for another chad. His GF called me too and explained to me how he just kept calling her and cying over the phone to take him back.

He went over to her house and threw little pebbles at her window to get her to come out because she wouldn't pick up her phone. (he was blowing her phone up via phone calls and messaging her on every social media platform.. facebook messenger, snapchat.. and sms).

Her neighbors called the police on him because he wouldn't leave her alone and kept making a scene outside her house...

So at this point.. we can all agree he broke every rule of the book on game right??? "dont be needy etc etc.. never cry in front of a girl etc etc"

After he stopped calling her for 2 weeks.. she saw him on the street and they got back together..

I was there when this happened.. she couldn't stop smiling at him when we all bumped into eachother

SHE TOOK HIM BACK AFTER 2 MONTHS OF THIS NEEDY OBSESSIVE CRYING BEHAVIOR.... WHAT THE F@#$ !???

 

[johnnyb]

You might think yes but in practice no or very little

Why would chad will have insecurities in the first place? He was worshiped all his life by his surroundings. But if he does, it's a minor thing. Foids will forgive everything for chads cock.

If you're hot and tall it doesn't matter how you act, that's not what foids are going for.

She probably thinks it’s cute and doesn’t care

there are always some foid waiting in line for chad

etc. bluepilled post OP imo

 

[Pinpoint]

Why would chad will have insecurities in the first place? He was worshiped all his life by his surroundings. But if he does, it's a minor thing. Foids will forgive everything for chads cock.

People are self critical for their own reasons. Humans are varied. Maybe they had a really critical father.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Only if it’s isnecurity about something totally trivial.

“I’m insecure about my 6’10” height”
“I’m insecure about my 10x7 dick bulge”
“I’m insecure about the massive bulging veins on my massive forearms”
“I’m insecure about my personality”

 

[Pinpoint]

etc. bluepilled post OP imo

yet someone told me here that demeanor matters as much as looks. my perception is not unfindable, it can be alignable.
I'd say if you're a natural chad, and she can see that then it does not matter.

Only if it’s isnecurity about something totally trivial.

“I’m insecure about my 6’10” height”
“I’m insecure about my 10x7 dick bulge”
“I’m insecure about my personality”

well if it's awareness about something inferior then the girl is turned off by the fact the guy isn't a dominant bad ass. For starters.

 

[johnnyb]

yet someone told me here that demeanor matters as much as looks. my perception is not unfindable, it can be alignable.
I'd say if you're a natural chad, and she can see that then it does not matter.

you have the looks to fuck or not. if you have to do some elaborate ritual chain that involves an exact social procedure, then you are getting cucked, as while you are doing that she is spreading her legs on the first meetup to guys she actually is attracted to, as her cuck elaborate social ritual chain adherent works away inorder to maybe have starfish sex after six months.

 

[Pinpoint]

you have the looks to fuck or not. if you have to do some elaborate ritual chain that involves an exact social procedure, then you are getting cucked, as while you are doing that she is spreading her legs on the first meetup to guys she actually is attracted to, as her cuck elaborate social ritual chain adherent works away inorder to maybe have starfish sex after six months.

attraction is instantaneous no doubt. snap primality.
But you can't just be autistic. You're being reductionist.
You have to be suited to her needs. While she does want ot go in for the orgy with you, you have to prove you are also something that fits into the rest of what she wants. If you're a nosepicking autist then your chances of getting laid even if you are hot are gradually reduced.
demeanor is like the case of a cake rather than the cake itself. it's not going to be the main attraciton but you have to ensure that the case isn't causing a problem for the cake, and just does its job of insulateing it. And not that it's covered in grease or has holes in it.

 

[johnnyb]

attraction is instantaneous no doubt. snap primality.
But you can't just be autistic. You're being reductionist.
You have to be suited to her needs. While she does want ot go in for the orgy with you, you have to prove you are also something that fits into the rest of what she wants. If you're a nosepicking autist then your chances of getting laid even if you are hot are gradually reduced.
demeanor is like the case of a cake rather than the cake itself. it's not going to be the main attraciton but you have to ensure that the case isn't causing a problem for the cake, and just does its job of insulateing it. And not that it's covered in grease or has holes in it.

youre not getting it dude. female validation is a socializer. someone who is attractive is not going to be a "nosepicking autist" unless they have actual birth defective brain lesions. if you are attractive, female validation from childhood, and more attention from adults, etc, makes it so you are socialized, well behaved, etc. it is only possible to be a "nosepicking autist" if you are ugly, or have parts of your brain missing

 

[Pinpoint]

youre not getting it dude. female validation is a socializer. someone who is attractive is not going to be a "nosepicking autist" unless they have actual birth defective brain lesions. if you are attractive, female validation from childhood, and more attention from adults, etc, makes it so you are socialized, well behaved, etc. it is only possible to be a "nosepicking autist" if you are ugly, or have parts of your brain missing

You're talking about the macro-pattern which I don't disagree with. I am just telling you that insecurity is a calculatable factor even though it doesn't come off as a deciding factor conventionally.
It is the center of gravity for attractive men to have a personality that's bland, and that's flat enough for women not to give a shit.
When you see men who are dense and superficial that goes double for women. I am not disagreeing with you.
You can be autistic as a chad. That's rare. But it gets pruned out eventually with a self reinforcement cycle.
Confidence is just the strawberry on the cake that informs a girl that the guy has had life-long substance of being on the winning side.
Women don't like confidence for the sake of confidence though. She just likes it because it alludes ot even more winner-life-karma.

 

[johnnyb]

You're talking about the macro-pattern which I don't disagree with. I am just telling you that insecurity is a calculatable factor even though it doesn't come off as a deciding factor conventionally.
It is the center of gravity for attractive men to have a personality that's bland, and that's flat enough for women not to give a shit.
When you see men who are dense and superficial that goes double for women. I am not disagreeing with you.
You can be autistic as a chad. That's rare. But it gets pruned out eventually with a self reinforcement cycle.
Confidence is just the strawberry on the cake that informs a girl that the guy has had life-long substance of being on the winning side.
Women don't like confidence for the sake of confidence though. She just likes it because it alludes ot even more winner-life-karma.

well it sounds like you anwered your own question here tbh lol

 

[Pinpoint]

well it sounds like you anwered your own question here tbh lol

I already know the answer to everythign I ask of you people. 1000 fold.
I just want to know your initial perspectives, and then I will go ahead and give my response/ clarification to patch up any bewilderment.

 

[anon]

An insecure Chad will have a 98% success rate instead of 99%. Incels have a 0% success rate, normies 1-5%.

It's hardly a deal breaker. If you're a tall Chad you can get away with just about everything.

 

[Deleted member 17752]

An insecure Chad will have a 98% success rate instead of 99%. Incels have a 0% success rate, normies 1-5%.

It's hardly a deal breaker. If you're a tall Chad you can get away with just about everything.

Cope, women want good looking alpha males.

 

[Michael15651]

there are always some foid waiting in line for chad

 

[Incellectual]

insecurity is an excuse tbh. Chad can be shy as a church mouse and foids will say its cute.

 

[inceliboy]

I would say maybe depending on if you're hot because of shit that you've done about insecurity or not.
If it's natural vs produced. Women want loungy laidbackers to win at life. THe more you come off like a guy who has had to try the more pathetic and fleeting you are as a man.

Nah it will actually make the foid less shy with chad and she'll love him more

 

[oldcel75]

People are not getting that every objectively negative thing will be seen as "cute", "bad ass", "wild" when you are chad or stacy. In an anecdotally rare occasion of insecure chad it will be seen as "ooo, it's so cute".

 

[anon]

Cope, women want good looking alpha males.

Go back to reddit.

 

[Deleted member 17752]

Go back to reddit.

A most excellent rebuttal. I rest my case.

 

[Deleted member 17997]

You might think yes but in practice no or very little, look at tinder experiments of hot guys up-front telling girls about their insecurities, the women try to empathise with them instead of try to avoid them. Insecurity is a product of being less than hot and the cause is what's really doing SMV damage.

 

[anon]

Cope, women want good looking alpha males.

good looking = alpha

If you think insecure Chad struggles, you're a newfag bluepilled cuck.

joined a month ago

Nevermind, you are a bluepilled newfag cuck.
back to reddit

 

[ldargoblin]

An insecure Chad will have a 98% success rate instead of 99%. Incels have a 0% success rate, normies 1-5%.

It's hardly a deal breaker. If you're a tall Chad you can get away with just about everything.

This. You can't stop Chad no matter what.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

It is a turn off IMO.My mom keeps mentioning how disguisting it is when manlets try to hide their height/compensate for it,or she hates men with beards because they seem insecure.

Ur mom is really a suifuel bitch

 

[MarriedAndLookin4Fun]

Insecure emo chad still drowns in pussy
Face > all

 

[EcuntR]

I would say maybe depending on if you're hot because of shit that you've done about insecurity or not.
If it's natural vs produced. Women want loungy laidbackers to win at life. THe more you come off like a guy who has had to try the more pathetic and fleeting you are as a man.

Having insecurities as chad just makes you more attractive to foids because they see you as mysterious. But when you are incel they will just be pushed away by it and see you as weird and potentially dangerous.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Most insecure people wouldnt be good looking to begin with

 

[NocturnalDecay]

I would have to disagree with the notion that all chads by default are not insecure, some chads take awhile to grow into their looks and are what I'd call late bloomers; these late bloomers do have insecurities but it rarely affects the outcome they have with women in the short-term. These chads will still have one night stands however in the long-term these sort of relationships never end up working out because the woman ends up bored and just hops over to another chad. So yes insecurity of a chad does matter but only in the long run with the same partner.

 

[Deleted member 17752]

good looking = alpha

If you think insecure Chad struggles, you're a newfag bluepilled cuck.

Nevermind, you are a bluepilled newfag cuck.
back to reddit

You are so fucking retarded. You can't just use related terms synonymously.

Looks have to do with bones.

Alpha personality has to do with low inhib.

While the two are usually combined, they are not the same.

 

[Pinpoint]

Nah it will actually make the foid less shy with chad and she'll love him more

That's one possibility.
I only mentioned the other as the more possible not because I think it's the absolute. But because it's the one people don't want to hear. Ppl don't wanna hear that truth, although it's true, that women want laidback and down to earth guys.
Women actually like laidbackerness because that is the mentality that shows a person doesn't have to give it their all to do anything.
The uptight regimental people are in "give it your all" mode. And that makes you feel like a loser even if you can be in a topdog position. It's why women choose to follow the chill-groups rather than the uptight ppl who look like they're trying to chip away at the chips on their shoulders.

What is their attitude though if they're disguising themselves as a high-equipped normie which reaches maybe chad-lite proportions. But what if they find out it was built on being produced?

People are not getting that every objectively negative thing will be seen as "cute", "bad ass", "wild" when you are chad or stacy. In an anecdotally rare occasion of insecure chad it will be seen as "ooo, it's so cute".

yes nothing is contextualized in a vacuum to women. all is seen correlatively with the person they are with. If you have that "something" that determines high primal value across society/ what will be renowned by all then you're going to have followers.
We're a very hierarchal species.

 

[johnnyb]

I already know the answer to everythign I ask of you people. 1000 fold.
I just want to know your initial perspectives, and then I will go ahead and give my response/ clarification to patch up any bewilderment.

LOL okay... you sound like total bitch boy by this response but sure bro

 

[Pinpoint]

LOL okay... you sound like total bitch boy by this response but sure bro

is that where your head's at? calling me a bitch boy for something irrelevant to my manliness?
sounds like you're sad and offended somehow. lol I'm sry bb.

 

[johnnyb]

sounds like you're sad and offended somehow

convince your female relatives to fuck me and I wont be anymore

 

[TheGambler2]

Ur mom is really a suifuel bitch

That's why she was cursed with incel son