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Discussion Is having female friends a fakecel trait?

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A lot of guys here act like having female friends is a fakecel trait, but I think that's cope. Women separate the guys who are boyfriend/hookup material from the guys who are only friends material. And the friends material are obviously guys who are not attractive. I'm the best example of this, I'm a white 5'5 manlet with a recessed jawline (JBW is a lie) and even though I've managed to get female friends, I never got anything remotely romantic from a woman, not even a kiss.
 
it's a soyfag trait
 
I think that guy's with female friends have at least some chance to ascend due to having the social skills to be able to be friends with a foid. With that in mind, whether youre an incel or not depends on the definition you choose. If you go by the dictionary definition then yes, you're an incel. If you go by my definition (being a complete outcast/always at the bottom or near the bottom of the social Hierarchy, no real friends, no real/bright job prospects) then yeah, you're a fakecel.

If you're actually friends (real friendship, not some disposable hose of attention) with them your social skills probably aren't that bad. You could be one of those lucky ugly dudes who gets a gf. Most of us have shit personalities on top of our shitty looks.
 
I think that guy's with female friends have at least some chance to ascend due to having the social skills to be able to be friends with a foid. With that in mind, whether youre an incel or not depends on the definition you choose. If you go by the dictionary definition then yes, you're an incel. If you go by my definition (being a complete outcast/always at the bottom or near the bottom of the social Hierarchy, no real friends, no real/bright job prospects) then yeah, you're a fakecel.

If you're actually friends (real friendship, not some disposable hose of attention) with them your social skills probably aren't that bad. You could be one of those lucky ugly dudes who gets a gf. Most of us have shit personalities on top of our shitty looks.
But personality does not matter. The only difference between a friend and a boyfriend are looks. Also those "lucky" ugly guys with a gf usually get cucked
 
If you willingly spend large amounts of time with women outside of work or school obligations you are cucked. But not necessarily fakecel because male/female “friendships” are usually betabuxxing arrangements just with 0% chance of sex instead of 30%.
 
Greycel type post.
 
It's pointless and its cucked

Why would an ugly guy waste his time on being just friends with a foid? Men and women can't be just friends, it's natural for a man to fall in love with a woman, it will happen 99% of the time in a male and female "friendship" meanwhile, she probably has multiple other guy friends that mog you, she is probably in love with another person while she sees you as nothing but a friend

Don't waste your time on trying to become friends with a foid, she only wants Chad

Modern women are the problem
 
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It's pointless and its cucked

Why would an ugly guy waste his time on being just friends with a foid? Men and women can't be just friends, it's natural for a man to fall in love with a woman, it will happen 99% of the time in a male and female "friendship" meanwhile, she probably has multiple other guy friends that mog you, she is probably in love with another person while she sees you as nothing but a friend

Don't waste your time on trying to become friends with a foid, she only wants Chad

Modern women are the problem
youre Sitting there while she vents to you about all the chads in her rotation right now, you’re driving her places and buying her food and she will never fuck you. I truly feel bad for these guys. These are the guys that took the standard blue pilled advice at face value to just “be nice to women”
 
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youre Sitting there while she vents to you about all the chads in her rotation right now, you’re driving her places and buying her food and she will never fuck you. I truly feel bad for these guys. These are the guys that took the standard blue pilled advice at face value to just “be nice to women”
Exactly, having foid friends is cucked

I never had a foid friend, when I was younger I tried interacting with them but they didn't even want to talk to me
 
It's a gay trait, not really fakecel
 
In fact it's a trucel trait, they want to be your friend and don't even see you in the slightest bit of value to them.
 
it’s an NT trait. i can socialize with men but not women
 
You

youre Sitting there while she vents to you about all the chads in her rotation right now, you’re driving her places and buying her food and she will never fuck you. I truly feel bad for these guys. These are the guys that took the standard blue pilled advice at face value to just “be nice to women”
Exactly it's futile i don't envy any guys in that position whatsoever lol u wanna have that gay best friend role be my guest.
 
Exactly it's futile i don't envy any guys in that position whatsoever lol u wanna have that gay best friend role be my guest.
This used to be me in highschool. I fully believed the bullpilled playbook. "just be friends with women and you'll get a girlfriend". I ended up just being used for free favors". If you confess your feelings they'll get angry because you "ruined" the "friendship"(they lost their beta servant).
 
It really depends as to how one defines 'friendship.'

I consider 'friends' to be people I'm incredibly close with and deeply respect, which is why I could only be 'friends' with other guys. If I had that same level of friendship with some foid (that sentence made me want to throw up), I'd probably consider that a fakecel trait for being able to forge that deep of a connection with a girl.

Yet, at the same time, I feel like it's also kind of a betabuxx trait... You're that close with a girl and she still won't date you? Kind of cucked.
 
Either fakecel or a faggot, nothing in-between
 
A lot of guys here act like having female friends is a fakecel trait, but I think that's cope. Women separate the guys who are boyfriend/hookup material from the guys who are only friends material. And the friends material are obviously guys who are not attractive. I'm the best example of this, I'm a white 5'5 manlet with a recessed jawline (JBW is a lie) and even though I've managed to get female friends, I never got anything remotely romantic from a woman, not even a kiss.
its a fakecell trait if you were truly a incel foids would be disgusted by you
 
Mostly fakecel, but it can be a truecel thing depending on how little they respect you and how much advantage they take of you. Anyways truecels know better, autistcels maybe I can see it being a thing
 
You are closer to ascension than the incels who can't even have their sympathy
 
its a fakecell trait if you were truly a incel foids would be disgusted by you
Brother I'm 5'5, it's impossible for them to not be disfusted by me. You can only ascend at 5'5 if you have an 8+ face and that's not my case
 
Brother I'm 5'5, it's impossible for them to not be disfusted by me. You can only ascend at 5'5 if you have an 8+ face and that's not my case
clearly your charismatic or they just think you a faggot
 
I don't necessarily think it's a fakecel trait but it's kind of a cucked trait. She's gonna talk to you about all the guys she hooks up with and her exes but she doesn't view YOU as worthy enough for her affection or sex. Idk I just wouldn't want to put up with that
 

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