Is Europe collapsing?

[frakko19]

Bad politicians who encourage us to go to war, weak politicians who can't defend their interests, a weak and sick people who can't defend itself and on every occaasions always talks about equality.
As a citizien of Europe I'm personally concerned about the future of our continent, as an insider of outsider, tell me about what you think of it.
Frakko

 

[TooSomething]

I hope so.

 

[DISASTER]

I dont have any comment on this topic.

 

[Call]

Bad politicians who encourage us to go to war, weak politicians who can't defend their interests, a weak and sick people who can't defend itself and on every occaasions always talks about equality.
As a citizien of Europe I'm personally concerned about the future of our continent, as an insider of outsider, tell me about what you think of it.
Frakko

It's the cost of living in a technocracy that puts GDP (or other useless economic indicators) as its objective instead of its own race and its own defense. This is why politicians are now useless, because they have to defend economic values and they have to be careful about useless %

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[IWWorkER]

I hope so.

 

[Exalted Monarch]

Bad politicians who encourage us to go to war, weak politicians who can't defend their interests, a weak and sick people who can't defend itself and on every occaasions always talks about equality.
As a citizien of Europe I'm personally concerned about the future of our continent, as an insider of outsider, tell me about what you think of it.
Frakko

Collapse is a bit overdramatic. Just as Rome wasn’t built in a day, it won’t be destroyed in a day either. They're declining.

And the reason is pretty simple:

-They're not the center of economic growth (Asia Pacific)
-They're not the center of technological growth (USA and China)
-They're not the center of population growth (Africa, South Asia, Central Asia)
-They're not the center of military growth (USA, Russia, Turkey, China)
-They're not the center of critical trade routes (Hormuz, Suez, Panama, Malacca)
-They're not the center of natural resources (Russia, Saudi Arabia, USA)

In short, they have been pushed from the center to the periphery in every area. This is not sustainable.

 

[druid]

Bad politicians who encourage us to go to war, weak politicians who can't defend their interests, a weak and sick people who can't defend itself and on every occaasions always talks about equality.
As a citizien of Europe I'm personally concerned about the future of our continent, as an insider of outsider, tell me about what you think of it.
Frakko

To me yes but this is appositely engineered, people think a civilizational collapse is like a 'big boom' but in reality it's slow and painful

 

[BricABrac]

They've been in decline. This is fine, if a little upsetting, but the natural cycle of things.

But the population is almost suicidal, and their rulers are completely uninterested in their own people. They go out of their way to get foreigners to rule over them, which would be sensible if they were some kind of protectorate but it's really not like that.

I hope they wake up to that at least, but it won't be pleasant.

 

[Emba]

I dont nigger any comment on this topic.

 

[druid]

Collapse is a bit overdramatic. Just as Rome wasn’t built in a day, it won’t be destroyed in a day either. They're declining.

And the reason is pretty simple:

-They're not the center of economic growth (Asia Pacific)
-They're not the center of technological growth (USA and China)
-They're not the center of population growth (Africa, South Asia, Central Asia)
-They're not the center of military growth (USA, Russia, Turkey, China)
-They're not the center of critical trade routes (Hormuz, Suez, Panama, Malacca)
-They're not the center of natural resources (Russia, Saudi Arabia, USA)

In short, they have been pushed from the center to the periphery in every area. This is not sustainable.

I agree with you that it happens slowly but I don't think it's a mere decline but a slow collapse, like that in 4-5th century western Rome, because we won't see anymore the Europe we have now if this is true, the race of it's countries will change permanently, the traditions will be completely eroded, the language and land control will bastardize etc... same thing will happen to the US, it won't be just a loss of political bureucratic power, that is the last thing to happen (even Rome slightly before it's total collapse, reached incredible statal and bureocratic complexity), what will happen instead is a complete socio-spiritual erosion, leaving a new reality that we won't be able to call "Europe"

 

[Exalted Monarch]

agree with you that it happens slowly but I don't think it's a mere decline but a slow collapse

If current trends continue, we will indeed witness a full-scale collapse.

the race of it's countries will change permanently, the traditions will be completely eroded, the language and land control will bastardize etc...

AI and humanoid robots can help with the immigration problem but Europe is pretty far behind when it comes to those things so they'll be at the mercy of US and China. Also, even if AI/robots solve the labour issue politicians can still important foreigners for malicious reasons. They need to change their entire political system first which seems more unlikely with each passing day.

same thing will happen to the US

I would argue this has already happened to US. Only ~54% of US population is white and a significant portion of those whites are culturally niggers/latinos.

 

[druid]

If current trends continue, we will indeed witness a full-scale collapse.

AI and humanoid robots can help with the immigration problem but Europe is pretty far behind when it comes to those things so they'll be at the mercy of US and China. Also, even if AI/robots solve the labour issue politicians can still important foreigners for malicious reasons. They need to change their entire political system first which seems more unlikely with each passing day.

I would argue this has already happened to US. Only ~54% of US population is white and a significant portion of those whites are culturally niggers/latinos.

Fully agree with you, the US is literally one step from total destruction, also AI is a bit overrated we mainly have LLMs and other such machines that are branded as if they were thinking throught the use of words these machines can replace a lot of work but politicians will leverage the need to make the economy circulate through immigrants

 

[Exalted Monarch]

Fully agree with you, the US is literally one step from total destruction

US as a political entity will probably be fine but I can't say the same thing about its people. The demographic changes over the next decade or two will be so drastic that the 2020s will seem like paradise by comparison.

these machines can replace a lot of work but politicians will leverage the need to make the economy circulate through immigrants

That's why I said the entire political system needs to change first and foremost. Left Wing politicans will keep supporting immigration so that they can stay in power. They know they're losing the support of young Gen Z men so they want to bring in lots of immigrants to vote for them.