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Discussion Is Being Anti-Tech/Neo-Luddite "Anti-Incel?"

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On here and other incel/incel adjacent blackpilled spaces, it seems that many are pro-technology for various reasons:

  • AI to help assist them in coping with loneliness or even for academic uses
  • Waifubot GFs
  • Gene editing
  • Artificial Wombs
  • Better vidya or shows
However, I ofc have seen a decently sized minority be very vocal about being anti tech of sorts: Claiming it has led to inceldom and that technology -thus industrialization as a whole and likely agriculture- have been a disaster for humanity, and thus contributed to inceldom.

Fact is, most Hunter Gatherer societies were very hypergamous, and very few men often reproduced.

Technology allows us to cope, and simply also allows humans chances at improving their conditions overall.
 
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Im mostly annoyed at people who use AI for thumbnails and content and when it's in video games
 
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I would not say being anti-tech or neo-Luddite is "anti-incel." Technology both helps and hurts us. On one hand, it gives us ways to cope: AI companions, games, online spaces like this, even the possibility of gene editing or artificial wombs down the line. On the other hand, it has also raised standards, concentrated attention on a small group of men, and given women endless options through apps and social media. If you blame technology entirely, you forget that hypergamy existed long before smartphones or Instagram.
 
i'm all for pro-technology more copes the better
 
Well i'm sure there are many incels who reject the notion that robowaifus can be a real alternative to foids. But it is probably the closest we could come to completely solving inceldom. So I don't think you will reach much of a consensus on this matter.
Personally, I think the robo waifu solution is more realistic and practical than retvrning to tradition. Even if we could create the perfect society where all men and women pair up and do it completely through social engineering without any technology (impossible), there is no guarantee in that case that there will be an equal number of men and women. I think that without technology, it would be impossible to cure society of this sickness known as "inceldom".
 
Being a Neo-Luddite as an incel is cucked as you are actively fighting against the development of technology that will literally help you. People overall misunderstand the issue of new technology as it's not about the technology it's self but the way the population misuses it, one example is smartphones. There is nothing wrong with what a smartphone does however normalfags often misuse it by getting themselves addicted to the dopamine rush of scrolling through social media.
 
Neo luddism is a meme ideology that nobody genuinely believes.. unless you're the taliban or al qaeda
 
I'm an unironic technofeudalist and advocate for AI takeover of humanity. If it makes normies seethe over losing jobs, all the better. Trvecels either to be rotting NEETs or in nerdy software jobs anyway.
 
Well i'm sure there are many incels who reject the notion that robowaifus can be a real alternative to foids. But it is probably the closest we could come to completely solving inceldom. So I don't think you will reach much of a consensus on this matter.
Personally, I think the robo waifu solution is more realistic and practical than retvrning to tradition. Even if we could create the perfect society where all men and women pair up and do it completely through social engineering without any technology (impossible), there is no guarantee in that case that there will be an equal number of men and women. I think that without technology, it would be impossible to cure society of this sickness known as "inceldom".
exactly this, the amount of societal overhauling would be so enormously massive. Even the far right wouldn't dare touch women's rights. Turning back the wheel is always harder than turning it forward. Incel revolutions also always larp cope. China is building the solution to the incel question/foid question and it will be here very soon.
 
I'm not completely anti-tech but it has gone too far tbh. We should have never advanced past the late 90s and early 2000s imho.

Smartphones in particular caused immense damage to soyciety, i don't think the younger zoomers here fully understand this
 
Luddism is indirectly anti-incel.

Technology is the only thing that can truly solve the problems of the blackpill. Anti-aging to deal with the agepill, better alternatives to cosmetic surgery (which is currently too limited in what it can realistically do) like nanobots to rearrange your entire craniofacial structure, AI girlfriends for lonely excess males, etc. Our problems are mostly genetic, and transhumanism is the only thing that can solve that. Yeah, yeah, you can technically do eugenics, but the problem is no matter what you do, a certain percent of males are going to end up at the very bottom because it's all relative. Get rid of everyone under 6'3, and 6'3 would become the new turbomanlet. Zero sum game. In order for there to be moggers, someone has to get mogged.

I think in the long run everyone will be happier with singularity tier tech, as long as we get UBI. I'm 100 percent e/acc. I just want my sentient AI (non-literal) mommy gf and to look like a turbo pretty boy.

Smartphones in particular caused immense damage to soyciety, i don't think the younger zoomers here fully understand this
Yeah, while I'm 100 percent e/acc, at the same time I'm able to see the other side of the argument. Technology (especially the internet) has had some negative effects on society for sure. The internet has certainly caused a lot of division for sure. Most zoomers and younger millennials grew up on the internet and that's demonstrably had a lot of consequences. People these days are hyper-introverted, closed off, isolated and atomized due to being terminally online. Basic social skills are gone, and most zoomers and younger millennials (the ones born in the early 90s) don't even like talking on the phone and prefer texting because talking on the phone gives them "anxiety".

I'm old enough to remember when the internet was just for "nerds" and normies only used it for e-mail, instant messengers (to talk to people they knew in real life only), research, and pornography. There was "the internet" and there was "real life" and nothing that happened on the former had any impact on the latter. Those days are LONG gone, and anyone who can't see this is boomer-brained and living in the past. The internet now is just an extension of real life. "Online discourse" is discussed in real life constantly. Most zoomers I see are very clearly heavily influenced by tik-tok and most 25 to 35 year olds I meet talk like stereotypical redditors (and express the same opinions/worldview thereof). Tik-tok and reddit have vastly more influence over zoomers/millennials than anything else, including legacy media like CNN or fox news. The average CNN viewer is like 65 and the average Fox News viewer is like 70. Everyone who isn't a boomer gets their news from Reddit, tik-tok, or twitter.

Anyway, getting back to the point I was making, I think we're at an awkward in-between stage. Technology is advanced enough to have made us lose human connection, but it's not advanced enough to fully replace it (which would require sentient AI). Don't get me wrong, I'm nostalgic about the 90s and 2000s. I miss the internet of that era, and I miss the social climate of that time period. But that's gone and there's no realistic way to ever get that back. The only solution is forward, the only realistic solution is e/acc.
 
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The whole problem is rn. Globalisation has made contentment near impossible, that's the current state of tech. When robo wife's come they we will be fine, but even than I don't see anyone being happy or content with that as it doesn't strike the primal urges we have. If they can become near perfect then fine it will work but i think that's a long long time away
 
Well obviously being an anprim is anti-incel. In a world where we make all of our tools from bone and stone chads would emass a harem of foids. HowevER neo-luddism is distinct from anarcho primitivism.
If we look back in our recent history almost every man had a wife, sure there was still some hypergamy going on, but generally even 100 years ago if you wanted a wife you could get one. Sure, she would probably be very avrage, but you weren't condemned to a life of inceldom if you lowered your standards even a little. Nowadays even landwhales want HTNs.

Luddism only aims to ask if adopting a certain technology will make humans more happy or not. Sure, theoretically sexbots will be a very good cope for inkwells, but given how expensive novel tech is nowadays how many of us could afford one? Probably none. So it will actually not lead to our salvation but it will cause us envy and possibly even more suffering.
Imagine suffering not only because Chad has a harem of foids but also a harem of robowaifus. That would be even worse.

Now I like technology as much as the next guy, but objectively speaking men were happier in our recent past when monogamy was enforced by law and when men and women were treated differently.
To clarify I am not some sort of trad - simp, I am just saying that if we wanted to minimize our suffering we should legally put women in the same place they were during the early 19th century. Adopting more advanced tech will have it so that the differences between men and women in society will start to get less and less relevant. Sure men are still better pilots than foids, but when you have an autopilot it doesn't even matter if there is a man or a woman sitting in the cockpit.

That is why I think that neo luddism is pro incel and not anti incel.
 
exactly this, the amount of societal overhauling would be so enormously massive. Even the far right wouldn't dare touch women's rights. Turning back the wheel is always harder than turning it forward. Incel revolutions also always larp cope. China is building the solution to the incel question/foid question and it will be here very soon.
I hope so. China may be our best hope and we should do everything possible to make sure they suceed in providing us with ample sex bots to cope with.
 
I hope so. China may be our best hope and we should do everything possible to make sure they suceed in providing us with ample sex bots to cope with.
It being of Chinese origin is great too because China is not a democracy so the more organized Chinese radfem foids can’t vote to stop it on behalf of western foids
 
Without tech I'm nothing
 
no. but neoluddites are often teenage redditors rambling about how much "better" life would be if every man lived in the woods. basically it's im14andthisisdeep as an ideology
 
I'm an unironic technofeudalist and advocate for AI takeover of humanity. If it makes normies seethe over losing jobs, all the better. Trvecels either to be rotting NEETs or in nerdy software jobs anyway.
sounds like a plan
 
Tik-tok and reddit have vastly more influence over zoomers/millennials than anything else, including legacy media like CNN or fox news. The average CNN viewer is like 65 and the average Fox News viewer is like 70. Everyone who isn't a boomer gets their news from Reddit, tik-tok, or twitter.
And this is a problem... why?

Legacy media is unironically more harmful and sinister than the internet. At the very least with the internet you give people a certain variety and freedom to choose the narratives they will follow frovarious sources. Legacy media are ALL under the control of oligarchs who seek to rewrite society.
 
  • AI to help assist them in coping with loneliness or even for academic uses
  • Waifubot GFs
  • Gene editing
  • Artificial Wombs
  • Better vidya or shows
These kinds of copes have actually given me hope for the future. It isn't surprising that progressives and tradcons have rallied against these things. They don't want us to have anything.
 
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The only type of anti-technology sentiment that makes sense is being anti-forensics and anti-dna analysis, for the sake of easier raping, everything else is degenerate and objectively evil, as it takes away the few options incels have. Realistically, most men are too mentally underdeveloped to advocate for legal avenues of rape and genuine patriarchy/real equality, so if you deny the development of advanced copes, you shoot yourself in the leg and cripple yourself. Little better than troonmaxxing.
 
On here and other incel/incel adjacent blackpilled spaces, it seems that many are pro-technology for various reasons:

  • AI to help assist them in coping with loneliness or even for academic uses
  • Waifubot GFs
  • Gene editing
  • Artificial Wombs
  • Better vidya or shows
However, I ofc have seen a decently sized minority be very vocal about being anti tech of sorts: Claiming it has led to inceldom and that technology -thus industrialization as a whole and likely agriculture- have been a disaster for humanity, and thus contributed to inceldom.

Fact is, most Hunter Gatherer societies were very hypergamous, and very few men often reproduced.

Technology allows us to cope, and simply also allows humans chances at improving their conditions overall.
I'm moderate about this, while I admite technology has made our lives easier, I'm against excessive digitalization and I'm pretty bad using technology myself. For example I have never bought a single thing online.
 
Science is incredible and technology must not be stopped. All is justifiable in the name of advancement.
 

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